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Zenimax: I'm willing to pay 50k crowns for a manual class change. Can it be done?

  • LightYagami
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    Athan1 wrote: »
    It's ridiculous that we can't change classes. Sorry I have a life and don't have time to farm 18 alts.

    They want us to grind forever and keep no. of players.
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  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    Universe wrote: »
    Players should start a new character if they want to play an other class.
    The class is the only unique aspect left from character creation.
    It will be good to have a meaningful choice at the beginning.

    Either way it is not in ZOS best interest to allow this since more leveling = more potential money spent and by more customers.
    Few will buy Class change for a lot of crowns, but many players may spend on horse riding lessons, experience scrolls, skill lines etc.
    It is about the bulk* income().

    It's definitely in Zos' best interest. It keeps people from quitting the game, which means they stick around and buy more crown crates and expansions.
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  • LightYagami
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    Universe wrote: »
    Players should start a new character if they want to play an other class.
    The class is the only unique aspect left from character creation.
    It will be good to have a meaningful choice at the beginning.

    Either way it is not in ZOS best interest to allow this since more leveling = more potential money spent and by more customers.
    Few will buy Class change for a lot of crowns, but many players may spend on horse riding lessons, experience scrolls, skill lines etc.
    It is about the bulk* income().

    Will you grind 8-9 Grand Overlords at PvP? How many Grand Overlords do you have?
    No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.
  • Sylvermynx
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    @Nyladreas - if you really mean what you say....

    Put in a support ticket. They're NOT going to respond to you here. You've been around here long enough to know that.

    The likelihood of them doing this for you is.... vanishingly small. But good luck anyway.
  • LadyLethalla
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    I want a token too, even it's expensive or even one account can use a token every two years. I don't want to grind for all maps, skyhards, titles, PvP rankings, etc. again. These take much longer time than simply leveling an alt to 50.

    This. ^^ So. Much. I don't want to have to earn all those achievements again. It took me since release week on console to get 29k achieve points and I have a life outside ESO.


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  • Saccopharynx
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    I, also, would pay for a class change token. I have the same problem, where I have my main character I want to complete all the content on for achievements and stuff, but personally I don't enjoy playing Templar all that much. I would love to re-spec him to a different class (leaving everything else).

    Of course I have other characters in different classes, but no one comes into this game brand new and knows how to do everything, learning what I know now vs when I first started out, I would've picked something else besides Templar for him. I don't want to focus on a different character as the main one because I have already completed content I don't want to have to re-do for the sake of the achievements (and no offense meant, but re-doing the main zone stories to me isn't as exciting as the DLC zone stories are, trying to drag through them isn't fun).

    I personally don't get enjoyment from a class that's sole DPS focus is one technique (jabs and jabs and more jabs) and I don't want him to be build up as a healer because it doesn't fit the character I've worked on up to this point. I have other characters for that, I want my main character that I have history and friend experiences with to be the one I enjoy. At this point, I just don't.
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  • Snowstrider
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    I am willing to pay more for being able to transfer my account to PC
  • Sheridan
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    Are you going to pay 50k crowns each time they change the class balance in one of their patches? Because even if Nightblade is currently useless in PvP (which it's not), it could easily change in 3 months, or 6 months, or a year. Look at all the history of shifts in ESO during these 6 years, it's pointless to jump back and forth in pursuit of current fashion...
    Edited by Sheridan on February 8, 2021 7:09AM
  • Minyassa
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    I am completely baffled at why anyone would be *against* someone else being able to change their character's class. I don't see what possible effect that could have on anyone else. It doesn't take anything away from anyone. People should be able to play whatever toon they are attached to in whatever way they think is fun. The constant arguing against people having fun makes no sense.
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    @Nyladreas - if you really mean what you say....

    Put in a support ticket. They're NOT going to respond to you here. You've been around here long enough to know that.

    The likelihood of them doing this for you is.... vanishingly small. But good luck anyway.

    I'm pretty sure that Customer Support can't. As in, they literally do not have the tools to do this. I'm not 100% sure anyone has the tools to do this on the live server. Now, ZOS might consider tasking out one of the database guys to do this by hand, but, that's outside the scope of customer support.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    The main problem with leveling another character is that progression in achievements starts all over. I dont think there is an easy fix, maybe if you complete all achievements in a specific category (like achievements in a specific dungeon or the quests in a new zone) that it counts towards your general achievements. In pvp its more difficult because the alliance rank is tied to the character instead of the account.

    Leveling the relevant skill lines usually doesnt take too long and these are also available in the crown store once you've unlocked them.
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  • wheresbes
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    I agree that class change should be an option.

    Actually, I think that the best option would be a classless system.

    Said that I tried playing other classes but NB is the best for me!

    Does it work well? This I can't judge because I'm not that good of a player.
  • Fischblut
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    Nightblade. Never felt more useless in PvP in any game because of a class and this took the cake.

    My very first character (and thus my main) was nightblade, and she still is after years o:) I never had problems with that. However, I totally support class change tokens - if we can change race and alliance, we should be able to change class of the character as well.

    I also would love account-wide achievements, because I have all classes and I like playing them all depending on my mood - but every time I'm not playing on my main, I'm punished. I recently got Relic Hunter title on my alt, and I would love to use this title on my nightblade sometimes - but I'm fed up with random BG matches (Capture the Relic is the most frequent match type, and I hate it with passion now), and thus I won't have this title on my main character :/
  • Nyladreas
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    Sheridan wrote: »
    Are you going to pay 50k crowns each time they change the class balance in one of their patches? Because even if Nightblade is currently useless in PvP (which it's not), it could easily change in 3 months, or 6 months, or a year. Look at all the history of shifts in ESO during these 6 years, it's pointless to jump back and forth in pursuit of current fashion...

    Tbh i think it's just my preference and play style that makes me hate NB and EXACTLY the reason why I wanna switch.

    Besides that I'd just like to be more useful in my team.
    Edited by Nyladreas on February 8, 2021 11:24AM
  • Yuffie91
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    I main a magden. According to the charts its always on bottom but I just enjoy the playstyle so much and cba to do everything again even though I have always wanted to level a sorc
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Class change token can mean one of 2 things:
    - On one hand it will intensify ZOS to release more and more "P2W" classes (they are doing that anyway, but it may get worse).
    - On the other hand it will mean that ZOS will have additional statistical data on what class is the most popular / preforms best for diffetent type of content - as people will switch to whatever the "flavour of the month" most powerful class is etc, so potentially it means that things can get more balanced than they are now.

    I think it is actally worth the risk as we already have non-base game classes that... lets just say are "questionable" in term of being balanced vs base game classes.

    And one thing I would like to point is it would be ideal to have account-wide achievements, but we know how it ended last time (crown store skyshards if you have skyshard hunter achievement).
    So, I would expect something similar... (once you completed all zone's achievements, you can buy them in crown store / per character)... :|
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on February 8, 2021 12:44PM
  • SilverBride
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    Minyassa wrote: »
    I am completely baffled at why anyone would be *against* someone else being able to change their character's class. I don't see what possible effect that could have on anyone else. It doesn't take anything away from anyone. People should be able to play whatever toon they are attached to in whatever way they think is fun. The constant arguing against people having fun makes no sense.

    This isn't just about someone "having fun". This would be a huge change, and any change like that affects all the players.

    Requests like this really baffle me. People already complain about paying crowns for items and services then turn around and ask for something with a huge cost like this.
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  • mickeyx
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Please just rid me of this torment. I currently have 0 enjoyment out of the game and will likely never regain it as it's been years now.

    I'm willing to seriously pay 50k crowns for the change if it can be done manually. I'm not interested in re-rolling a new character. I'd rather quit the game if it cannot be done tbh. I don't wanna regrind everything all over again.

    Yes, I'm 100% desperate and serious at this point. I finally want to have fun on my main character, not just urge to pull my hair out (if there's any left at this point).

    @ZOS_GinaBruno please point me the right direction if this can be done via GM. :)

    What the....

    Nighblades are so OP in PvP right now. Like seriously are you ok?
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Jeffrey530 wrote: »
    Which class are you using to cause such grief?

    Nightblade. Never felt more useless in PvP in any game because of a class and this took the cake.

    I'm just so done after trying out different classes. Everything else at this point does 1000x better unless you're into ONLY ganking which I'm not.

    The new trial set with balorghs and back bar clever front Vate and two trainee is broke. 8k weapon damage... I’d say it’s BiS for NB Rn
  • noblecron
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    Why not try a different race for your nb? That's what I did and like it a lot better. Granted my crafter is a nb and I wish I could switch her to a Templar instead of thinking I think nib would be best when I first made her >>
  • Eedat
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    With 50k crowns you can buy all the skill lines and enough skyshards to do whatever you want
  • Nyladreas
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    mickeyx wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Please just rid me of this torment. I currently have 0 enjoyment out of the game and will likely never regain it as it's been years now.

    I'm willing to seriously pay 50k crowns for the change if it can be done manually. I'm not interested in re-rolling a new character. I'd rather quit the game if it cannot be done tbh. I don't wanna regrind everything all over again.

    Yes, I'm 100% desperate and serious at this point. I finally want to have fun on my main character, not just urge to pull my hair out (if there's any left at this point).

    @ZOS_GinaBruno please point me the right direction if this can be done via GM. :)

    What the....

    Nighblades are so OP in PvP right now. Like seriously are you ok?

    They are i don't disagree, they're not fitting what I want to play though.
  • Khajiitihaswares
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    Eh Class change token would be cool. But I recall way back on stream I think that they said this would never be possible due to work that has to be done on the back end. So I think its more of they do not want spend the money on it since the profit will not out weight it.

    Idk if anyone can dig this up. This was last year or year before I recall I am having massive brain fart on it.
  • Araneae6537
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    I don’t know why there isn’t a class change; surely race is the most integral part of a character and you can change that. I think ZOS should make that an option, refunds your skill points but you have to level up the new skill trees. On a max level character it wouldn’t take so long (quicker than leveling a new character, not even considering everything else you’ve unlocked on the character you want to class change) and it makes sense that a character would have to put it some time to learn new skills.

    I am curious why nightblade is considered by many (all?) of you to be a poor choice for PvP unless you want to go stealthy? Asking because I want to make a new stamina character for PvP, focusing on Weapon, Alliance and Fighter’s Guild abilities and nightblade was one of the classes I was considering.
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    First comment got it right, but this comes down to a request for account wide achievements. Class change tokens are not needed, and certainly not for 50k crowns.
  • tuxon
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Jeffrey530 wrote: »
    Which class are you using to cause such grief?

    Nightblade. Never felt more useless in PvP in any game because of a class and this took the cake.

    I'm just so done after trying out different classes. Everything else at this point does 1000x better unless you're into ONLY ganking which I'm not.

    Oh mate...I spent over a year playing NB. My first year in ESO. It was my main, invested a lot into that char. I still have it even.
    It was a bad decision to jump to ESO as NB so a little more than a year after I made a Templar that I still play as my main.

    How long you've been playing this char?
    Resdayniil kan tarcel
  • tuxon
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    I currently have 0 enjoyment out of the game and will likely never regain it as it's been years now.

    I'm not interested in re-rolling a new character. I'd rather quit the game if it cannot be done tbh. I don't wanna regrind everything all over again.

    Yes, I'm 100% desperate and serious at this point. I finally want to have fun on my main character, not just urge to pull my hair out (if there's any left at this point).

    Honestly, If not for Tamriel Unlimited now, I WOULD go and replay the entire game. But with zones that are locked behind levels and so on, because now it makes 0 sense to replay game from scratch.
    Even though vanilla locations and story are amazing.
    Resdayniil kan tarcel
  • starkerealm
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    I don’t know why there isn’t a class change; surely race is the most integral part of a character and you can change that.

    Your class interacts with way more systems than your race does. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if changing your character class risks some serious database corruption on the back end.
  • tuxon
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    By the way, have you tried to re-roll your NB from stamina to magica? Trust me, it can be a fresh start for you. Try changing a race/name outfit! And go new attribute, I'm sure it will help you, unless you hate the class completely.
    Resdayniil kan tarcel
  • Araneae6537
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    I don’t know why there isn’t a class change; surely race is the most integral part of a character and you can change that.

    Your class interacts with way more systems than your race does. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if changing your character class risks some serious database corruption on the back end.

    That’s true; I was thinking of it more from a lore standpoint. From that standpoint, retraining in a new class makes more sense than somehow (magically? miraculously?) changing the essence of who or what your character is. It actually hadn’t occurred to me that it might not be possible for logistical reasons.
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