Here is an innovative solution for you: Create your own guild and only invite like-minded people.
Alternative: Git gud like those players you complain about and then solo the dungeon at your own pace.
This game has bigger issues that the devs should focus on - e.g. constant game crashes, poor server performance, class imbalance.
I can already solo those dungeons... why don't they?
I queue for a dungeon because I like working with others.
They obviously don't, hence why they take off as soon as teleport in.
There is a difference between players queueing for roles they are not, and players who are bad at their roles. Normal dungeons are there to learn the game. If anyone is intending to do their role, but can not perform it properly, they would be kicked.KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »ZOS should have addressed the fake roles situation a long time ago. This situation is only getting worse(expanding with speedrunners), and it getting worse was only a question of time. Since nothing is done to stop those types of players. My guess is, that pretty soon players like that will find yet another way to screw over regular players.
Just place heavy restrictions on roles to stop fake roles. Besides that: Do not allow bossfights to be skipped, and do not allow bossfights to start with less than 3 players in the boss arena. Speedrunner problem solved.
if u do that restrict dps to not only healer an tank
atleast 40k should be enought that nobody would use fake roles but who wants to wait 30min for a dungon and than another hour cause dds dont do dmg
I am a CP160 player (well to be honest CP1449) and I really hate the running full speed through dungeons and skipping areas.
I play 1pm - 4 PM eastern on PCNA. I have several characters that I play and trying to get the quests done in dungeons with players who run and skip is a horrible experience. You all say get a guild, but that is not an answer as I can very very rarely find a guild members who want to do Dungeons. When you leave a group do to this type of players you get a long penalty.
My question is if you want to solo a dungeon why are you queuing for a group?
It goes both ways. Short story.. I'm CP 1200 and just recently levelled a new char to 50. So I queued for some normal dungeons to pick up the skill points. Said char was not yet fully equipped and was still missing crucial skills, but hey, normal dungeons..
I ended up in CoA2. After we portet in, I said "hi, i have quest" and moved on. Nobody said a word. At the first boss, I noticed that the other DD (CP 300ish) was still at the entrance. Eventually, he decided to join us, so we moved on to the second boss. During this fight, he just stood there, doing literally NOTHING, so I said "wtf are you doing?" in group chat... no reply. This guy did not do anything during the entire dungeon, so after we killed the final boss, I just left the group without saying a word.
Minutes, later, said DD PMed me, asking me what was wrong, so I told him that he was doing nothing and that this is just rude behaviour. In reply, he told me that "this CP 810 guy" was soloing the dungeon as usual and that he was fed up with max CP people running normal dungeons. Mind you, I did not rush, I did not solo, I did not skip anything, we killed every single trash group on our way, together as a team. My teammates did not even have the decency to say "hi" and this one DD seemed so obsessed with his hatred against the bogeyman of max CP people that he even refused to fight.
It goes both ways. Short story.. I'm CP 1200 and just recently levelled a new char to 50. So I queued for some normal dungeons to pick up the skill points. Said char was not yet fully equipped and was still missing crucial skills, but hey, normal dungeons..
I ended up in CoA2. After we portet in, I said "hi, i have quest" and moved on. Nobody said a word. At the first boss, I noticed that the other DD (CP 300ish) was still at the entrance. Eventually, he decided to join us, so we moved on to the second boss. During this fight, he just stood there, doing literally NOTHING, so I said "wtf are you doing?" in group chat... no reply. This guy did not do anything during the entire dungeon, so after we killed the final boss, I just left the group without saying a word.
Minutes, later, said DD PMed me, asking me what was wrong, so I told him that he was doing nothing and that this is just rude behaviour. In reply, he told me that "this CP 810 guy" was soloing the dungeon as usual and that he was fed up with max CP people running normal dungeons. Mind you, I did not rush, I did not solo, I did not skip anything, we killed every single trash group on our way, together as a team. My teammates did not even have the decency to say "hi" and this one DD seemed so obsessed with his hatred against the bogeyman of max CP people that he even refused to fight.
I've had the same thing happen to me a few times on my healersThey just sit back in the corner doing nothing to help the group.... Another annoying thing is the moment I enter a dungeon half the time I get "are u fake healer?" before even the first trash pull... because some fake speeder one was in their previous run...
ok, so, when I do nRandom, I'm in the mood of bulldozing over everything, since time is precious and I want cristals.
Most people I end up with are on the same page, but if you are not, there's a solution !
Speak up ! When I'm asked to wait for quests/chests/exploration, I'm never against it. I'm sure most players will accomodate this, so, ask away !
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
And vice versa, not everyone want to waste time cause some random want to read book. There is purpose why u can read book again from your collection. Many people did thousands times base dungs and no one want to spend a lof of time there.
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Is that EU or NA? Because I never had something of the sort happen to me, then again, I don't do normals outside of leveling.
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Is that EU or NA? Because I never had something of the sort happen to me, then again, I don't do normals outside of leveling.
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Is that EU or NA? Because I never had something of the sort happen to me, then again, I don't do normals outside of leveling.
PC/NA.
This is literally what every random normal is like. I try not to do them at all, unless we're going with an entire guild group. But like I said, it was late, it was 4am, there were only 2 of us. We figured, we'll probably get some other late night stragglers who are also just leveling.
I always say hello and say that we're picking up the quest as soon as we port into the dungeon. And it does not matter.
It's just really tiring trying to get this addressed with all of these fake pearl clutchers claiming they would never and they always are considerate of others in their group. That's a lie. If everyone who claimed they would never behave like this actually didn't, this wouldn't be an issue. Except they do and it is.
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
And vice versa, not everyone want to waste time cause some random want to read book. There is purpose why u can read book again from your collection. Many people did thousands times base dungs and no one want to spend a lof of time there.
If you weren't going to read a single word of the post you quoted, why in the ever loving $%^# did you quote it
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Again this would not be a problem for a solo instance that allowed the player to do the story on their own - and/or make the dungeon quest repeatable. (With no reward after the first run)
If you Let the player do the quest on their own then they don’t have to worry about holding a group up or speed rushers spoiling the experience.
And before people say “Get a guild for doing the story”
The GF is most people’s introduction to the Dungeons- they’re not going to know that kind of nuance.
However, If they just make the dungeon quest repeatable then that would allow people who got rushed - or just want to experience the story - to at least get a group together to experience it fully with people they trust. Rather being only able to barely experience it one time with random players.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Case in point, queued up for a random normal with my guildmate, since it's late there's only 2 of us
We got a random tank and a healer in Elden Hollow 1
Mind you, my guildie and I are both under level 25
We port in and I say, "Hiya, we're picking up the quest" and the tank and healer run full speed ahead
We get to the room where you need to clear the 2nd alter for the quest...and they just skip it. Ran right past both bosses and into the final room, leaving my guildmate and I to fight for ourselves
We can't kick them because it's 2v2
They killed the last boss, we didn't get loot, or quest credit, and lost our skill point because with the final boss dead and the requirements not met, we couldn't advance the quest
So now our time is wasted because we have to go back into the dungeon and do it again for that skill point.
That is the type of *** behavior we're talking about in this thread. Not people wanting to slow down and talk to every npc or read all the lorebooks.
We're talking about actively screwing over the rest of your group.
Again this would not be a problem for a solo instance that allowed the player to do the story on their own - and/or make the dungeon quest repeatable. (With no reward after the first run)
If you Let the player do the quest on their own then they don’t have to worry about holding a group up or speed rushers spoiling the experience.
And before people say “Get a guild for doing the story”
The GF is most people’s introduction to the Dungeons- they’re not going to know that kind of nuance.
However, If they just make the dungeon quest repeatable then that would allow people who got rushed - or just want to experience the story - to at least get a group together to experience it fully with people they trust. Rather being only able to barely experience it one time with random players.
The reason i dont like the story mode thing, is because dungeons are not delves. We have plenty of those. Dungeons are for groups and they should not be done solo not as a newbie not as a "leet" player. I do think the quest should be repeatable though you can only claim the rewards once. Make it white the first time and then blue each time after so you can tell that you have already done the quest once. The quest giver would make it clear that they will "tell you the story" again, but you wont be able to collect any rewards from it.