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  • Fischblut
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    Do you feel comfortable even trying to grind stuff out anymore, or will you just wait for ZOS to hand it out later?

    None... I simply don't collect new gear since Harrowstorm. Continuous nerfs to abilities and gear every update were already discouraging. And this new low with arena weapons is only reinforcing my decision to stay away from any gear farming :/
  • Varana
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    They wanted to bring vMA into the same bracketing as other weapon sets to allow less skilled players to earn them.

    Which is totally fine but kinda misses the point because to achieve this goal, it doesn't matter whether they upgraded existing weapons or not.
    Edited by Varana on May 27, 2020 10:48AM
  • carlos424
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    What exactly was taken away from you?

    VAS perfected inferno
  • John_Falstaff
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    idk wrote: »
    I still have my vMA weapons. They were not taken away. I do look forward to a vMA obtaining the new vMA weapons that are unlike any vMA weapon that has been in the game before.

    It's not technically correct. You don't have vMA weapons anymore; you have nMA weapons. :)
  • gatekeeper13
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    I have zero problem with people getting vMA weapons in normal mode.

    What annoys me so much, is them actually nerfing my hard-earned VMA weapons and forcing me to re-grind same content.
  • Uryel
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Do you feel comfortable even trying to grind stuff out anymore, or will you just wait for ZOS to hand it out later?

    I never grind anything. Problem solved.

    Seriously though, OP, did you play anoy other MMO in the past ? Pretty much all of them have the same workings. They all water down some content at some point in their history.
  • kyle.wilson
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    @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler
    Next time raise the gear cap. That way an argument like this doesn't happen 1000 times.
  • Raudgrani
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    I suppose starting to nag my *** into DLC vet trials. Haven't done these yet. Or I suppose I just have to ask, I have been asked a few times, but felt I wasn't "BiS" enough to be appreciated and so on. It's often a bit elitist, and for reasons I guess. I rarely run meta builds, or to be precise - I don't.

    Found a way to easy get Flawless Conqueror now, which I've had a problem with because of the Umbrage flower deaths: I simply run through them while on Major Expedition, as soon as I've cleared out waves of trash, and I die no more! LOL Well, an occasional freak death of course, but nothing I can't handle.

    In general, I've been a dedicated PVP player. But because of the state of the game, I've been off that for a couple of months. And more or less all I have left are the vet DLC trials...
  • spartaxoxo
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    Uryel wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Do you feel comfortable even trying to grind stuff out anymore, or will you just wait for ZOS to hand it out later?

    I never grind anything. Problem solved.

    Seriously though, OP, did you play anoy other MMO in the past ? Pretty much all of them have the same workings. They all water down some content at some point in their history.

    I have not only played other MMOs, I moderated one. They may nerf existing content but they don't take your old gear and put it into a lesser game mode. They don't then put new gear in what you just beat and expect the people who already did it to farm again as if their time meant nothing.

    Nerfs are preferrable because usually they aren't extreme and they put the onus to farm on the people who didn't do it yet, not on the people who already did.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on May 27, 2020 7:25PM
  • Danksta
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    vMA has been getting watered down for years.
    zaria wrote: »
    Monster helms in normal dungeons?

    But that would invalidate the back-breaking labor from all those people who got their helms from the Golden Vendor.
    Now vet DLC is far easier than vMA. You don't need HM for helmet after all and can be carried.

    They might make perfected versions of Craglorn trials gear however.

    On PS4 you can get carried in vMA.
    BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA

  • Foefaller
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Do you feel comfortable even trying to grind stuff out anymore, or will you just wait for ZOS to hand it out later?

    I never grind anything. Problem solved.

    Seriously though, OP, did you play anoy other MMO in the past ? Pretty much all of them have the same workings. They all water down some content at some point in their history.

    I have not only played other MMOs, I moderated one. They may nerf existing content but they don't take your old gear and put it into a lesser game mode. They don't then put new gear in what you just beat and expect the people who already did it to farm again as if their time meant nothing.

    Nerfs are preferrable because usually they aren't extreme and they put the onus to farm on the people who didn't do it yet, not on the people who already did.

    Didn't WoW dumb down a bunch of the Raids when they added the raid group finder? That was after I quit playing the game but I seem to recall drama about that.

    And while it's rarely been quite as obvious as this, there are tons of MMOs and F2P games who have made content and rewards easier to acquire than before, whether we're talking reducing costs or giving a new avenue to aquire it. IMO the only thing that really makes this situation unique is that there is now something better that replaced what you could get before. You think people would be less rage if there was no perfected version and vMA was simply a case of bragging rights now, instead of a better reward?
  • kargen27
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    The Maelstrom Arena change is nothing compared to what they did to Master Anglers. Now anybody can get a boat as furnishing without having to fish even one hole. That is a true travesty. Looks like a nice boat!
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • spartaxoxo
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    The Maelstrom Arena change is nothing compared to what they did to Master Anglers. Now anybody can get a boat as furnishing without having to fish even one hole. That is a true travesty. Looks like a nice boat!

    What?
  • Shawn_PT
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    You know, at the rate you guys are complaining, ZOS should just have deleted everyone's Maelstrom/Master weapons, so you'd have an actual reason to complain.

    They kind of already did. Back when players stored their valuable items in the new Storage Chests only to have them all disappear :tongue:
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Foefaller wrote: »

    Didn't WoW dumb down a bunch of the Raids when they added the raid group finder? That was after I quit playing the game but I seem to recall drama about that.

    Ah, yes. I remember that silliness. "My Super Duper Raid Gear is now worthless.. because people I think are beneath me can now get their hands on it!" /eyeroll
  • spartaxoxo
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    Foefaller wrote: »

    Didn't WoW dumb down a bunch of the Raids when they added the raid group finder? That was after I quit playing the game but I seem to recall drama about that.

    Ah, yes. I remember that silliness. "My Super Duper Raid Gear is now worthless.. because people I think are beneath me can now get their hands on it!" /eyeroll

    This is different. Because it used to be that if someone asked me "do you have vma weapons?" I could say "yes."
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