ESO+ suscribers: do you feel like the game's performance's representative of the 200$+/year you pay?

gabriebe · April 2020

Discuss how the year of the performance is going for you.

molecule · April 2020

I'll let you know when it starts

Taylor_MB · April 2020

#ThreadsThatShouldBePolls

mikikatze · April 2020

I pay for the crafting bag.

Mettaricana · April 2020

I pay for a craft bag and the dlcs but rest is meh performance is sh** lag etc but after this many years I've come to learn zos sucks and they can't make it work so enjoy it when it works and unsub and play other stuff when its at its worst.

Kiralyn2000 · April 2020

I don't sub, but I'm curious where you're getting $200+ from. If you buy a full year, it's $140. If you buy monthly (which would be silly if you're planning to have it all the time), it's $180.

(I subbed the first three months I played, back when I got it in 2016. Since I was going to be playing a lot, because it was New!™ to me... I usually only sub to an online game when I'm going to be dedicatedly playing just that game. If I'm just going to be popping in and out as the whim takes me, no reason to spend $.)

vestahls · April 2020

Implying I pay for the whole year and don't take the most minimal amount every once in a while for the craft bag refill.

Nanfoodle · April 2020

No but does equal the value of the fun I'm having. I love this game. I have re-fallen in love with MMOing because of ESO.

mayasunrising · April 2020

Another one of these threads? If you don't like the game or the performance speak with your wallet. ESO+ is not a requirement. What mostly ruins the game for me is people complaining constantly about it regardless of the changes they make.

forthwinds · April 2020

The game has been UNPLAYABLE since the last patch, with minimal updates from the team about fixes. Almost every trial instance has adds doing 360s, skills won't fire, and the game just flat out refuses to work. This issue has carried over from the Harrowstorm patch onto the Greymoor PTS, with no fix in sight.

The fact that there hasn't been any clear communication from the devs about this problem is what is very worrisome for most people. The truth is, the game is completely UNPLAYABLE with the "desync" that seems to be going on. Last night we reset our vSunspire instance 12 times and only got one "okay" instance where adds weren't doing 360s and blastbones would fire...

There are people quitting in droves, and many people on my trial progression groups have refunded or don't plan on buying Greymoor because of this performance. People were even joking last night that they'd rather have to raid with only 10-20 fps again then have to deal with these bad instances.

These instances seem to get no better on the PTS. In fact, the performance seemed even worse which is very disheartening. I know that you have stated you are working on it, but to what extent? We as players, are very frustrated about the games state of performance. Getting this issue fixed should be the NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.

What I ask, and think we deserve, is for communication at the very least. Give us a weekly update on the status of the issue, something to let us know that you are putting every resource available to get this issue corrected. The game would be in such a great state if just this one bug could get fixed.

PLEASE SAVE US ZOS

AcadianPaladin · April 2020

Less than US $140 per year for me and well worth it. Easy choice for me since I only play one game at a time and for the last several years that has been ESO. It is a beautiful game of massive scale and enjoyable combat. Performance is adequate for my PvE solo requirements. My 'end game' includes soloing most alliance zone WBs and soloing a fair number of alliance zone group dungeons.

The craftibag is very helpful but also very much enjoy dying costumes and having double bank/house slots.

The perfect game for me would be medieval fantasy, massive scale, beautiful areas, fun exploration, open world, single player.

ESO fits all that except it has the drawback of being multiplayer. My problem with multiplayer is not really the presence of other players; rather it is the neverending frustrating skill changes in a futile attempt to 'balance' things.

Prior to ESO, I played Skyrim, then Oblivion; both are great games but fall short in terms of massive scale. But being single player, I did not have to 'adapt/adjust' to forced 'balance' changes.

MartiniDaniels · April 2020

I cancelled my sub some months ago because of atrocious game performance.

ArcVelarian · April 2020

It's still the best MMORPG on the market.

Elsonso · April 2020

I don't have that many performance problems, but do experience the ability desync. I can log into and play on both PC NA and PC EU. It is clear to me that ZOS is investing in the game, and it is not abandoned. I am still getting daily enjoyment from the game. My craft bag and bank space work. I am getting my Crowns. I am getting my crafting skill and XP bonuses. I am feel getting what I paid for out of ESO Plus.

Tandor · April 2020

mayasunrising wrote: »

Another one of these threads? If you don't like the game or the performance speak with your wallet. ESO+ is not a requirement. What mostly ruins the game for me is people complaining constantly about it regardless of the changes they make.

I'd put it differently. If you don't like the game or the performance then don't play it. If you don't play it, then don't pay for it. If you enjoy the game enough to keep playing it then it's worth paying for it.

As for me, the year is going fine, and I've no reason not to continue with my two subscriptions. As a solo/cooperative and non-competitive PvEer without add-ons the game has been running fine for me on PC EU and NA, as it has done since launch. I realise that's not the same for everyone, depending primarily on individual playstyles.

TineaCruris · April 2020

Today was the worst performance in cyrodiil that I've witnessed to date. How can the performance change so much based upon the time of day or day of the week?

shaielzafine · April 2020

ArcVelarian wrote: »

It's still the best MMORPG on the market.

I thought they couldn't get enough revenue from mandatory subscriptions which is why we have crown store, crown crates, pay for expansions, and still have subscription option?

Tandor · April 2020

TineaCruris wrote: »

Today was the worst performance in cyrodiil that I've witnessed to date. How can the performance change so much based upon the time of day or day of the week?

The number of players logged in.

Elsonso · April 2020

TineaCruris wrote: »

Today was the worst performance in cyrodiil that I've witnessed to date. How can the performance change so much based upon the time of day or day of the week?

Internet congestion and overall server load vary based on time of day and day of week.

Lysette · April 2020

TineaCruris wrote: »

Today was the worst performance in cyrodiil that I've witnessed to date. How can the performance change so much based upon the time of day or day of the week?

simple answer - server load and player behavior (ball groups) - in case performance would increase, then how long will it last?- People will tell others that performance is better now, more players come in and performance will be where it was before, just with a higher player number and increasing lag again - and the complain game will start anew - this is a sisyphean task.

Tigerseye · April 2020

mayasunrising wrote: »

Another one of these threads? If you don't like the game or the performance speak with your wallet. ESO+ is not a requirement. What mostly ruins the game for me is people complaining constantly about it regardless of the changes they make.

Don't hang around on the forum, then?

People will, of course, often come here to complain about something.

If that "ruins the game" for you, then either don't come to the forums, or avoid the threads where people are likely to be complaining.

Viust · April 2020

Just interesting - ZOS just doesn't care about the EU server or are they really so unprofessional?

xshatox · April 2020

I don’t think it is but I have no choice as in I need crafting bag. I never play MMO before, I play it because I am elder scroll fan. If performance getting worse I’ll be back playing offline game.

Neoealth · April 2020

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

I don't sub, but I'm curious where you're getting $200+ from. If you buy a full year, it's $140. If you buy monthly (which would be silly if you're planning to have it all the time), it's $180.

(I subbed the first three months I played, back when I got it in 2016. Since I was going to be playing a lot, because it was New!™ to me... I usually only sub to an online game when I'm going to be dedicatedly playing just that game. If I'm just going to be popping in and out as the whim takes me, no reason to spend $.)

It's not that silly. It gives you the option to quit when you like without losing money. And the direction this game is going and the on going persistent state of poor performance, only paying monthly seems like the sensible option atm.

Olen_Mikko · April 2020

I came back, last time i played before Murkmiren patch.

I thought i'd give this game a change again and so far performance has been okay and i feel i'll enjoy enough to keep subbing and playing.

KoultouraS · April 2020

I am here mostly for the PvP.
The last year has rendered the game into a Powerpoint presentation, with fancy lights and
ridiculous money grabing methods.
This is what we were promised....

instead we got the middle finger...

Mancombe_Nosehair · April 2020

Tigerseye wrote: »

mayasunrising wrote: »

Another one of these threads? If you don't like the game or the performance speak with your wallet. ESO+ is not a requirement. What mostly ruins the game for me is people complaining constantly about it regardless of the changes they make.

Don't hang around on the forum, then?

People will, of course, often come here to complain about something.

If that "ruins the game" for you, then either don't come to the forums, or avoid the threads where people are likely to be complaining.

It's not the complaining that does it. It's the screeching and hyperbole that annoys people, then the bickering that follows.

Hallothiel · April 2020

Very happy with sub. (And does not cost me as much as stated!)

Performance has improved - was atrocious on ps4 pvp at start of year but much better now - even with what must be increased traffic due to more playing because of lockdown. Pvp is actually fun again.

Trials are also fine. Not had any major issues.

So on the whole, all pretty ok, and well worth the weekly cost of about £2.50. Half the cost of a pint or even a cheap bottle of wine. Not much else out there gives me this much fun for that amount of money.

Yukon2112 · April 2020

I am very happy with my sub. The issues I have not noticed to much that people talk about.

Sylvermynx · April 2020

Since I have no issues playing the game I'm perfectly happy with paying ESO+ sub for two accounts. My enjoyment of a game does not rest on "endgame" or especially pvp (the complete opposite in fact) so since what I have fun with works just fine (including I might add on EU as well as NA) I have no problem subbing.

Yuke · April 2020

of course not, but the game is literally unplayable without the crafting bag if you dont play casually.