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Cloak desync. FIX IT

Joinovikova
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Please could you fix desync on Shadowy Disguise. Play NB on current "BG MMR system" is frustrating enough, but with desync on Cloak.. its unplayable..
Thank you in Advance
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Yup, a lot of direct damage abilities still go through even though they used to "miss". I haven't seen the "miss" message in a long time. Ill snipe someone and then they will cloak while the arrow is in the air and it will still hit most times. That goes for anyone trying to sneak after I cast. A lot of direct damage abilities are simply pulling them back out of stealth and it wasn't like that its like they removed the "missed" mechanic.
  • goldenarcher1
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    Playing cyro at primetime is a bewildering experience. :o
  • GRXRG
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    Gap closers still hit you while cloaked, single target abilities reveals you while cloaked, dots reveals you while cloaked, aoe reveals you while cloaked.

    Basically everything now reveals you and it's not worth running shadow disguise anymore.

    Even using it offensively is impossible.

    The lag desync made it 100 times worse.

    The only way is running cloakless build with dark cloak, but you are basically a mediocre stamina class and all the other stamina classes are just upgraded version of stamblade.

    I would love to see a debuff same as streak attached to cloak, but in return you cannot be revealed by anything just potions and detections.

    The current state of the skill is just a meme, sometimes works, others times even a fart reveals you, it's stupid.

  • MurderMostFoul
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    I just started playing NB, so I luckily don't have a frame of reference for Cloak performing better.

    However, it still seems to work fairly well for how I use it (running away like a B ).
    Edited by MurderMostFoul on April 13, 2020 5:37PM
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • OWLTHEMAD
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    I just started playing NB, so I luckily don't have a frame of reference for Cloak performing better.

    However, it still seems to work fairly well for how I use it (running away like a B ).

    Yeah, but the problem is thats not the best way to use it. Skillful play on a nightblade demands cloak. The tool kit has been severely gimped over time BECAUSE we have cloak. making skillful use of cloak to position yourself for an ambush or evade and confuse opponents in the midst of a brawl is the cornerstone of nightblade strategy. Nightblades were already in a bad spot, without cloak they are barely worth playing.

    This is especially bad for a noob like yourself (not intended offensively) BECAUSE you dont know what your missing; and dont have the ability to learn how to use thd class to its fullest.

    Its like having a race car with a speed limit. You know it could go fast. It could be competitive; ut youll never experience it nor learn how to do it your self.
  • MurderMostFoul
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    OWLTHEMAD wrote: »
    I just started playing NB, so I luckily don't have a frame of reference for Cloak performing better.

    However, it still seems to work fairly well for how I use it (running away like a B ).

    Yeah, but the problem is thats not the best way to use it. Skillful play on a nightblade demands cloak. The tool kit has been severely gimped over time BECAUSE we have cloak. making skillful use of cloak to position yourself for an ambush or evade and confuse opponents in the midst of a brawl is the cornerstone of nightblade strategy. Nightblades were already in a bad spot, without cloak they are barely worth playing.

    This is especially bad for a noob like yourself (not intended offensively) BECAUSE you dont know what your missing; and dont have the ability to learn how to use thd class to its fullest.

    Its like having a race car with a speed limit. You know it could go fast. It could be competitive; ut youll never experience it nor learn how to do it your self.

    I could see using it more fully on a MagBlade, but on my Stamblade with limited Magicka, it just allows me to go class cannon and get the heck out of dodge if I can't take my opponent down quickly enough.

    This is for BGs btw, I could see more strategic options of cloak in Cyro with CP for sure.
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • Crash427
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    Have they even acknowledged this problem? It's been over a month since U25. I'm so sick of holding my breath to see what they nerf/break on NB every patch.
  • Taylor_MB
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    Cloak is so broken, Soul Assault can hit you while cloaked, but not pull you out?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD19KfNI9Fc
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  • GRXRG
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    Taylor_MB wrote: »
    Cloak is so broken, Soul Assault can hit you while cloaked, but not pull you out?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD19KfNI9Fc

    I think clearly you used cloak and in your screen your character is hidden, but for the enemy see your laggy desynced hitbox still not invisible and he is able to target and land on you soul assault.

    This game is crazy broken.
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  • JusticeSouldier
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    GRXRG wrote: »
    Taylor_MB wrote: »
    Cloak is so broken, Soul Assault can hit you while cloaked, but not pull you out?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD19KfNI9Fc

    I think clearly you used cloak and in your screen your character is hidden, but for the enemy see your laggy desynced hitbox still not invisible and he is able to target and land on you soul assault.

    This game is crazy broken.

    it was detection potion of the enemy. Zenimax ignores all my feedbacks about this trash - game doesn't notify u that someone used it, it shows nothing who, when, where used it. He just can see u and hit like in your case.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler dam guys, detection ptions...where is enemy or your's aura to match it's radius and locaion? where is notification/open eye? wtf u thinking about for so many years?
    all classes. pc platform, dissapointed.
  • Joinovikova
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    GRXRG wrote: »
    Taylor_MB wrote: »
    Cloak is so broken, Soul Assault can hit you while cloaked, but not pull you out?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD19KfNI9Fc

    I think clearly you used cloak and in your screen your character is hidden, but for the enemy see your laggy desynced hitbox still not invisible and he is able to target and land on you soul assault.

    This game is crazy broken.

    it was detection potion of the enemy. Zenimax ignores all my feedbacks about this trash - game doesn't notify u that someone used it, it shows nothing who, when, where used it. He just can see u and hit like in your case.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler dam guys, detection ptions...where is enemy or your's aura to match it's radius and locaion? where is notification/open eye? wtf u thinking about for so many years?

    Its not related to detection pots, when i play on other class i do not have problem to f.e. Apply curse or topping charge Nb after they cloacked and i am not using detect pot. Desync have all skill now, but desync on Nb cloak make stam Nb nearly uplayble ...
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    GRXRG wrote: »
    Gap closers still hit you while cloaked, single target abilities reveals you while cloaked, dots reveals you while cloaked, aoe reveals you while cloaked.

    Basically everything now reveals you and it's not worth running shadow disguise anymore.

    Even using it offensively is impossible.

    The lag desync made it 100 times worse.

    The only way is running cloakless build with dark cloak, but you are basically a mediocre stamina class and all the other stamina classes are just upgraded version of stamblade.

    I would love to see a debuff same as streak attached to cloak, but in return you cannot be revealed by anything just potions and detections.

    The current state of the skill is just a meme, sometimes works, others times even a fart reveals you, it's stupid.

    Yup. I've been hitting people after they cloak a lot lately and one thing I noticed is I NEVER see the "miss" message anymore. Its like they removed that from the game.
  • evoniee
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    even mid air guard projectile sometimes pull you out that should have been miss, joke game
  • JusticeSouldier
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    GRXRG wrote: »
    Taylor_MB wrote: »
    Cloak is so broken, Soul Assault can hit you while cloaked, but not pull you out?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD19KfNI9Fc

    I think clearly you used cloak and in your screen your character is hidden, but for the enemy see your laggy desynced hitbox still not invisible and he is able to target and land on you soul assault.

    This game is crazy broken.

    it was detection potion of the enemy. Zenimax ignores all my feedbacks about this trash - game doesn't notify u that someone used it, it shows nothing who, when, where used it. He just can see u and hit like in your case.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler dam guys, detection ptions...where is enemy or your's aura to match it's radius and locaion? where is notification/open eye? wtf u thinking about for so many years?

    Its not related to detection pots, when i play on other class i do not have problem to f.e. Apply curse or topping charge Nb after they cloacked and i am not using detect pot. Desync have all skill now, but desync on Nb cloak make stam Nb nearly uplayble ...

    thing is u have no proofs. U can't know if someone used detection potion or not at any moment. And who exact used, what its radius...It's like child closing his eyes and thinking that he's invisible for others... @ZOS_GinaBruno are u all there ok with that? what is the logic to save this disaster in gameplay?
    Edited by JusticeSouldier on April 19, 2020 1:58PM
    all classes. pc platform, dissapointed.
  • MusCanus
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    GRXRG wrote: »
    Taylor_MB wrote: »
    Cloak is so broken, Soul Assault can hit you while cloaked, but not pull you out?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD19KfNI9Fc

    I think clearly you used cloak and in your screen your character is hidden, but for the enemy see your laggy desynced hitbox still not invisible and he is able to target and land on you soul assault.

    This game is crazy broken.

    it was detection potion of the enemy. Zenimax ignores all my feedbacks about this trash - game doesn't notify u that someone used it, it shows nothing who, when, where used it. He just can see u and hit like in your case.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler dam guys, detection ptions...where is enemy or your's aura to match it's radius and locaion? where is notification/open eye? wtf u thinking about for so many years?

    That you need to buy some crown crates instead.
    Edited by MusCanus on April 19, 2020 2:25PM
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