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How do you feel about account-wide achievements?
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eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think the current system is stupid no matter how you look at it. So few people will ever try to complete all the achievements on multiple characters. Its the biggest grind in the game. And for people like me who do everything its incredibly annoying.
I wish I could sometimes take a break from doing everything on my main, but its pointless when thats the class im grinding achievements on. I mean its probably the last thing im worried about in this game but it would be nice if some of them, at least, were account wide so you could do achievements on different characters.
Like crafting ones for example. Who is going to do the crafting achievements on multiple characters? Every motif? Why? Its craziness. Fishing I could understand, even though I wish it was account wide. I could see people wanting to do the challenge of getting master angler on multiple characters and knowing the effort it took. Pvp and dungeon achievements would also make sense staying just character, even though, again, I would rather they were all account wide.. But exploration, crafting, and questing ones should 100% be account wide.3 -
Septimus_Magna✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Some achievements and all titles should definitely not be account-wide, vMA is a different challenge on some classes for example.
Things like motifs, riding lessons, bag space, collectibles or monster trophies should be account-wide.
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LordWenzel✭✭✭It's about time to have them account wide and been able to check them also outside of the game.2 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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This again???I think this was talked about a lot already and I know we have "mains" for the achievements, but for the sake of convenience don't you want account-wide achievements?
-Imagine the "Beat Dead Horse" meme of your choice here which seems is nowadays deemed "inappropriate" by the powers that be-
We have had sooo many discussions about this stilly idea...
...and I say once again, it makes no sense, and IF the powers that be EVER would go there, they will do it JUST like skyshards and guilds - by letting you pay a hefty chunk of crowns to mirror progress from your main(s).
Still sounds like such a good idea, if you gotta pay through the nose for it???
Dye unlocks are -already- account wide. Have been from the start! Didn't you know???Also that makes dyes account wide which is also really good.
One of the other things I always mention when this topic comes up...
...is that we don't need anything more accout wide then we already have, BUT... we sure could use an "Account Achievement Overview"!
Like... a page at the the character selection screen, that shows ALL the achievements you have, well, achieved, on all your characters, when you did it with which character, etc.
Possibly also with extra rewards for multiple completions... like "Do mainstory with every class, get mannimarco outfit pieces" or "Reach PvP rank -x- in every alliance, get special ambassador costume" or "play every race to level 50, get special furniture piece" and so on...
[edited for inappropriate content]Edited by TheShadowScout on April 8, 2020 3:36PM2 -
bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Also that makes dyes account wide which is also really good.
Dyes are already account-wide.
A sizeable number of them are, anyway. I haven't earned them all yet, so I don't know if there are any that AREN'T account-wide. But all of the ones I've unlocked so far on my main are accessible by all of my other characters.
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January1171✭✭✭✭✭I just want to be able to see all at once my total achievement progress across all characters.
They could keep achievements character specific, but add a toggle in the journal that lets you see what you have across characters. Maybe add how many characters you have it on, etc.3 -
tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭January1171 wrote: »I just want to be able to see all at once my total achievement progress across all characters.
They could keep achievements character specific, but add a toggle in the journal that lets you see what you have across characters. Maybe add how many characters you have it on, etc.
There's an add-on, if you're on PC, that gives you your total across all characters, drop down menus, etc... awesome for achievement point seekers. Kyoma's Global Achievements.
This is what it looks like. (Paired with Votan's Achievement Overview)Edited by tmbrinks on April 7, 2020 4:09PMThe Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger69,420 achievement points3 -
joerginger✭✭✭✭✭This is long overdue. I hate grinding the same stuff over and over again on my alts.3
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tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭joerginger wrote: »This is long overdue. I hate grinding the same stuff over and over again on my alts.
Then don't do it... there's nothing that forces you to do so.The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger69,420 achievement points6 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Be careful what you wish for guys.
My prediction for Zos actually implementing this:
Achievements are now account wide, however-
Overland achievements give 78% less achievement points..
Achievements have points?¿?
What do you get for them?
(can you identify the person who doesn't really pay much attention to achievements?
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GenjiraX✭✭✭✭✭joerginger wrote: »This is long overdue. I hate grinding the same stuff over and over again on my alts.
I like it. I take more time on my alts and get into the mini-stories.
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Mindcr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Achievements have points?¿?
What do you get for them?
You can turn them in at the concession stand for small items like super bouncy balls, erasers, and those little plastic men with sticky hands and feet that you throw at walls.3 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Achievements have points?¿?
What do you get for them?
You can turn them in at the concession stand for small items like super bouncy balls, erasers, and those little plastic men with sticky hands and feet that you throw at walls.
...and now I miss playing Skee-ball at the boardwalk. And trading a couple dozen tickets for some plastic spider rings, because everything else cost 10-1000x as much.
(you know, the arcade & game industry has been ripping kids off for their allowance - one quarter at a time - since at least the 80's. Not sure why people think the whole "f2p"/mobile/microtransaction thing is a new trend in the entertainment industry.
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xXMeowMeowXx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »Where's that "dead horse" meme again ... ?
But like bruh if this topic is always brought up maybe we actually need this?
No we don’t need it. Dyes are available account wide.
Rank should not be account wide or achievements because they were done on a specific character and class.
It would take away what little there is to character depth and worth.
What you’re asking goes against what an mmo is.Edited by xXMeowMeowXx on April 7, 2020 6:05PM0 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Like crafting ones for example. Who is going to do the crafting achievements on multiple characters? Every motif? Why? Its craziness. Fishing I could understand, even though I wish it was account wide. I could see people wanting to do the challenge of getting master angler on multiple characters and knowing the effort it took. Pvp and dungeon achievements would also make sense staying just character, even though, again, I would rather they were all account wide.. But exploration, crafting, and questing ones should 100% be account wide.
So, you put the Grand Master Crafting Title on an Alt that does not have any crafting skills. Then someone asks you to make something. First thing you have to tell them is, I need to log to my crafter....
Your example is the reason why Achievements should be Character specific.
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zergbase_ESO✭✭✭✭I think this was talked about a lot already and I know we have "mains" for the achievements, but for the sake of convenience don't you want account-wide achievements? Also that makes dyes account wide which is also really good.
I wouldn't care. I main one char for years and still do. It would make less work on an alt if anything but I am the person that sits in the middle of it doesn't really matter what way they do it for that system.
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Some will say yes, some will rage and say something about character identity, but the answer is so obvious.
Say it with me:
Leave character achievement tabs EXACTLY how they are, but add another tab that shows account wide progress on all achievements. Leave titles bound to the character page.
That way if you want to RP with your lawful good character that would never touch a thieves guild quest, fine. But if you want to know how much of the game you have done as the player, well, you can know that too.
I am traditionally an achievement hunter. That ship sailed a long time ago in ESO. I have a good chunk of the achievements in this game, but they are spread over a dozen toons. If we had account wide achievements, my playtime in this game would sky rocket because I would immediately start going after them again. As it is now, I chase skins and a handful of titles.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on April 7, 2020 6:09PM1 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Like crafting ones for example. Who is going to do the crafting achievements on multiple characters? Every motif? Why? Its craziness. Fishing I could understand, even though I wish it was account wide. I could see people wanting to do the challenge of getting master angler on multiple characters and knowing the effort it took. Pvp and dungeon achievements would also make sense staying just character, even though, again, I would rather they were all account wide.. But exploration, crafting, and questing ones should 100% be account wide.
So, you put the Grand Master Crafting Title on an Alt that does not have any crafting skills. Then someone asks you to make something. First thing you have to tell them is, I need to log to my crafter....
Your example is the reason why Achievements should be Character specific.
Actually, that example is why titles should be specific. 1 -
Seperatist✭✭✭Would be nice but it's never gonna happen and think zos already explained that once long time ago, stuff like undaunted, mages guild and fighters are kinda bound to achievements, besides now when they added skyshards hunter achievements for each specific zone and started to sell it via clown store just makes it more difficult. Like ok they could cut leveling achis aka lvl 50 hero, but again imagine creating freshly new character and getting lvl 50 immediately cuz it's achievement also, undaunted 10, mages guild, psijic etc, even grand overlord, that's just not gonna happen and if such would ever be released look for it in clown store highly overpriced ofc. Not saying i'm against that, having myself over 39k points on one char atm and happened multiple times in the past getting some achis first on alts especially trophy grind stuff Immoltal ledeemel, (un)chained, Gryphon Fat, Thicc Tocc Tolmenter, Grand overbruhlord, Kekslayer. "You know you don't have to be here right"0 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wouldn't mind it showing both.
There are some character specific achievements that matter, as well as titles related to those characters.
But having a total of both would be one way to do it, probably not worth the effort imo with all the other stuff that needs done to the game.-- @xaraan --
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Jakx✭✭✭✭✭I think this was talked about a lot already and I know we have "mains" for the achievements, but for the sake of convenience don't you want account-wide achievements? Also that makes dyes account wide which is also really good.
Dyes from the achievements are already account wide. Momentos too. So titles arent but titles are indicative of character accomplishment. In short it doesnt really matter if they are. The important parts are account wide already.Joined September 20130 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wouldn't be opposed to an achievement overview where you can see all you achievements across characters.
But it is absolutely essential that each character retain their own achievement tracking as it is now. That's how most of us keep track of what our characters have done in terms of dungeons, zone completion, skyshards, etc.I think the current system is stupid no matter how you look at it. So few people will ever try to complete all the achievements on multiple characters. Its the biggest grind in the game. And for people like me who do everything its incredibly annoying.
I wish I could sometimes take a break from doing everything on my main, but its pointless when thats the class im grinding achievements on. I mean its probably the last thing im worried about in this game but it would be nice if some of them, at least, were account wide so you could do achievements on different characters.
Like crafting ones for example. Who is going to do the crafting achievements on multiple characters? Every motif? Why? Its craziness. Fishing I could understand, even though I wish it was account wide. I could see people wanting to do the challenge of getting master angler on multiple characters and knowing the effort it took. Pvp and dungeon achievements would also make sense staying just character, even though, again, I would rather they were all account wide.. But exploration, crafting, and questing ones should 100% be account wide.
And for me it's the exact opposite. Having completed an achievement on my main incentivizes me to use an alt for activities that involve that achievement.
Open 1000 chests? I'm on my 5th character for that, and that's the character that goes out and looks for treasure maps.
Daedric Generals? My main doesn't do dolmens anymore. That's now my warden's job.
Someone needs help with a dungeon or public dungeon? Let me bring a character that needs those as well.
The Jester's Festival came around again? Hey, my Necromancer has never done it. Let's have him get the achievements for that.
Having achievements be character specific makes the content more repeatable.The Moot Councillor2 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think the current system is stupid no matter how you look at it. So few people will ever try to complete all the achievements on multiple characters. Its the biggest grind in the game. And for people like me who do everything its incredibly annoying.
I wish I could sometimes take a break from doing everything on my main, but its pointless when thats the class im grinding achievements on. I mean its probably the last thing im worried about in this game but it would be nice if some of them, at least, were account wide so you could do achievements on different characters.
Like crafting ones for example. Who is going to do the crafting achievements on multiple characters? Every motif? Why? Its craziness. Fishing I could understand, even though I wish it was account wide. I could see people wanting to do the challenge of getting master angler on multiple characters and knowing the effort it took. Pvp and dungeon achievements would also make sense staying just character, even though, again, I would rather they were all account wide.. But exploration, crafting, and questing ones should 100% be account wide.
And for me it's the exact opposite. Having completed an achievement on my main incentivizes me to use an alt for activities that involve that achievement.
Having achievements be character specific makes the content more repeatable.
Same here. To me, account-wide achievements are like having a single player RPG game, like Skyrim or Fallout, that you can play only once. If ESO had launched like that, I would have moved on years ago.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Some will say yes, some will rage and say something about character identity, but the answer is so obvious.
Say it with me:
Leave character achievement tabs EXACTLY how they are, but add another tab that shows account wide progress on all achievements. Leave titles bound to the character page.
That way if you want to RP with your lawful good character that would never touch a thieves guild quest, fine. But if you want to know how much of the game you have done as the player, well, you can know that too.
I am traditionally an achievement hunter. That ship sailed a long time ago in ESO. I have a good chunk of the achievements in this game, but they are spread over a dozen toons. If we had account wide achievements, my playtime in this game would sky rocket because I would immediately start going after them again. As it is now, I chase skins and a handful of titles.
I don't think that in all the gazillion threads on account-wide achievements a single person has ever disagreed with the bolded suggestion. Then again, the problem with these threads is that no original poster has ever asked for that, they simply want everything on every character.1 -
Fischblut✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I love that many things in ESO are account-wide
I would love to have account-wide achievements and titles as well
Achievements are now account wide, however-
Overland achievements give 78% less achievement points.
Vet dungeon achievements show up as completed in your journal, but no longer award achievement points.
We don't get any rewards for collecting achievement points, so they are techincally useless - no matter the amount.Would be nice but it's never gonna happen and think zos already explained that once long time ago,
Everything which was "never gonna happen", has happened in the past - or is about to happen (for example, confirmation of upcoming Alliance Change tokens in one of recent threads).
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FatherDelve✭✭✭Everything that smell slightest like WoW Insta Gratification we should fight back. We can talk about Horse Training maybe, we can talk about Skill Lines, but the problem is, if you ever enter this door of Insta Gratification, people wont stop demanding. And we dont have a dank 2004/05 "Classic" Game, that can stop our downfall.
Especially with the upcoming Skyrim, we will get flooded by WoW and Skyrim people. Everything will be to hard for them, everything needs to get fast and instant, because "omg dude I have a job and a family". Yes, maybe, but there is no reason to hurry up to achieve anything like in your beloved World of Warcraft, Friend. You can take your time and get on 18 Chars per Account your Godslayer.
We cant and we shouldnt open the door for Insta Gratification, more then it already is. If everyone is a winner, at the end NOBODY is a Winner, Achievements feeling dull, and soon people will cry for an ESO Classic. And Todd will release Skyrim Number 49595Edited by FatherDelve on April 7, 2020 11:30PM0 -
xF1REFL1x✭✭✭joerginger wrote: »This is long overdue. I hate grinding the same stuff over and over again on my alts.
It seems if you're not grinding you're not playing ESO... ;-(0
