How do you feel about account-wide achievements?

Fajin

I think this was talked about a lot already and I know we have "mains" for the achievements, but for the sake of convenience don't you want account-wide achievements? Also that makes dyes account wide which is also really good.

newtinmpls

mmo R.P.G.

Chess is for "account" stuff.

We play one character at a time.

I think we are already getting a benefit when the various mementos and such on one character are usable by others.

Taleof2Cities

Where's that "dead horse" meme again ... ?

RogueShark

It would be nice but they wouldn't do it.
The good thing is, dyes are account wide, as are motif styles for changing your outfit appearance.

Fajin

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Where's that "dead horse" meme again ... ?

But like bruh if this topic is always brought up maybe we actually need this?

redspecter23

I would like all achievements to be account wide. I don't like that my "main" is the one I need to collect certain achievements on. If I want to go fishing? No point unless it's the toon I'm doing master angler on. Want to do the achievements on that DLC dungeon I'm working on? No I won't bring my tank to help the group, my main is my healer.

Basically, if achievements were account wide, it would open up more gameplay options for me which I would consider a positive change.

Gilvoth

i would Love to have account wide achievements.
we have been asking for that since beta.

Llorephie

redspecter23 wrote: »

I would like all achievements to be account wide. I don't like that my "main" is the one I need to collect certain achievements on. If I want to go fishing? No point unless it's the toon I'm doing master angler on. Want to do the achievements on that DLC dungeon I'm working on? No I won't bring my tank to help the group, my main is my healer.

Basically, if achievements were account wide, it would open up more gameplay options for me which I would consider a positive change.

Let's remind that Skyshards and Skill line achievments are now for sale in crown store
Most achievments are linked to char progression, so, you can't get achievment for 35 level on new 1-level character, and so on - counters on crafting achievments, motif learning...

ZeroXFF

It would be great, but you won't get far with this suggestion on the forums. No matter what improvement you suggest, the least convenient option is usually the most popular.

daemonios

Fajin wrote: »

I think this was talked about a lot already

Yes. Yes it was.

Elsonso

Fajin wrote: »

I think this was talked about a lot already and I know we have "mains" for the achievements, but for the sake of convenience don't you want account-wide achievements? Also that makes dyes account wide which is also really good.

I don't want account-wide achievements. However, I do expect that ZOS will monetize "copying" achievements from Character A to Character B.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Some should, but at the same time they should also be redoable on different characters. As much as I dislike mentioning WoW, it did implement that quite nice.

For example, I wish some title achievments were accountwide, like the one for Witch from the Witches Festival. That one is such a poa for such a minor thing as a small title.

Casul

Would love account wide achievements and titles.

Turelus

Personally I am for them.

Having changed my main from a Nightblade to a Necromancer there are a lot of achievements I need to get again which are not hard, but also not fun and just a grind.

Linaleah

some things should be earned per character, but others are just.. petty. like... if i did an achievement for finishing a zone on at least one character - i should be able to buy furniture off achievement vendor on all of my characters. sure, if my alts want the skill points, it makes sense that they each do the story. but vendor? should be open.

same for titles

I don't see how its any different from us already being able to use achievement dyes, skins and mounts account-wide.

and don't even get me started on those "collect body parts" achievements. those HAVE to be account wide. they are grindy and rng heavy enough as it is. but its a special kind of fun when you are missing ONE part on a character to finish a particular collection. a part that refuses to drop for that character... only to randomly drop for an alt you play for a half an hour on a whim...

or the other even fun collect 10 fragments to make a pet achievement. where maker help you if you consume a part or two on a wrong character... pet once you make it is accountwide, why isn't fragment collection for those (staring pointedly at mummified alfiq and marrionette, not to mention joke popper etc mementos)

Elsonso

Turelus wrote: »

Personally I am for them.

Having changed my main from a Nightblade to a Necromancer there are a lot of achievements I need to get again which are not hard, but also not fun and just a grind.

Why chase achievements? Putting it another way, if they are important to you, then you do it. If they are not fun, and are a grind, why bother?

Tandor

Half the players want everything account-wide, half the players want everything character-specific.There are a couple of reasons for the split, one being between traditional console players who are used to everything being done by "the player" and traditional PC players who are used to everything being done by "the character".

The other reason is that there are those who play a "main" and only roll "alts" in order to try out different classes and builds, leveling the latter to 50 in a matter of hours at a dolmen, typically before jumping into PvP so they want all the extras over and above the levels immediately. Then there are those (not necessarily role-players) who want to play the whole game with multiple individual and equal characters who differ in various ways other than just class or build. For example, I'm not a role-player as such but my Imperial templar is a holy paladin type who doesn't touch the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood and neither steals nor trespasses. On the other hand, my dark elf nightblade assassin does both. Why should his achievements be imposed on my templar?

Fortunately, ZOS recognise the dual ways in which the game is played, and have struck a fair balance between some things that are account-wide like CPs, dye unlocks and collections etc, and those that are character-specific like most achievements. They've already conceded a lot to the account-wide supporters by making skill points available in the Crown Store through skyshards. So far as the account-wide supporters are concerned, it is surely more than a fair compromise already.

I don't believe tthat ZOS should concede anything else, but be in no doubt that if they did so it would be through the Crown Store. We already have the evidence for that in the skill points/skyshards. That is a slippery slope in more ways than one, and I hope players won't blindly lead ZOS down it, as the overall game would be the worse for it. If achievements are worth having, then they're worth putting in the time and effort to get them, if not then don't bother.

Gorgoneus

This is just a big time sinking blackhole to grind same achievements again and again with each characters. Lets be hones, the only reason we have costumes and mounts account wide is specifications of this console engine of the game.
Also I have a question to thouse hypocritical people who are for the character bound system: how is your feelings about account wide bank slots and collections? Your alts are not deserved right to use your main bank slots and crown skins.

InaMoonlight

No thanks, it's bad enough they get infected with cp. I'd like to know that when I "finish" one char, I can take the marvelous tour all over again, actually FEELING the achievement of getting the achievement on another char, with another build, other skills.

If that's gonna happen, like with CP, whats the pointe of doing it again if not the fun, and adapting to a new class/style - I'd just be DONE DONE!

InaMoonlight

But then again, I'm actually un-happy about cp being infectious, it kinda kills the fun of working for it, which would be what keeps us playing. Collections, costumes, so on, fair enough. DON'T think a new char should automatically level to your mains cp once your newbies hit cp, and REALLY don't want to see my mains achievements on a char id like to work with, experience it again, in THAT chars way... It would cut more years off my time in this game, then cp-share already did.

GalexPK

redspecter23 wrote: »

I would like all achievements to be account wide. I don't like that my "main" is the one I need to collect certain achievements on. If I want to go fishing? No point unless it's the toon I'm doing master angler on. Want to do the achievements on that DLC dungeon I'm working on? No I won't bring my tank to help the group, my main is my healer.

Basically, if achievements were account wide, it would open up more gameplay options for me which I would consider a positive change.

This is how i feel, no point of doing a vet dungeon/trial for achievement if is not on my main. Same as the DLC/chapter zones.

Sylvermynx

I don't care about achievements at all. So I guess I don't care what ZOS does.

Dojohoda

I'm more against it than for it but, if they did it, I'd still be logging on and playing. I do enjoy those achievement popups though; they feel like an "addagirl".

GenjiraX

I don’t want account-wide achievements. I like the system as it is. Each of my characters feels individual.

Universe

After everyone grind their souls out so they can achieve the same achievements on multiple characters you want to make it account wide ?
It will seriously diminish their efforts and the achievements.

This will never happen.
If you wondered... I'm not Molag Bal, it is just a reference to souls!

Kiralyn2000

Fajin wrote: »

and I know we have "mains" for the achievements

We do?
I just thought the main was the character you put the most effort & resources into. i.e the one you "mainly" play.



On the one hand, I don't really care one way or the other.

On the other hand, having the achievements not auto-fill on your other characters can be useful for keeping track of what that character hasn't done yet.

Tai-Chi

I am totally against - no more to be said.

mayasunrising

Most definitely against it.

Mindcr0w

Be careful what you wish for guys.

My prediction for Zos actually implementing this:

Achievements are now account wide, however-

Overland achievements give 78% less achievement points.

Vet dungeon achievements show up as completed in your journal, but no longer award achievement points.

Tsar_Gekkou

I know that a lot of people would scream about their precious multiplayer immurshun if titles were account wide, but i'm for it.

Banana

Yes please