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[ZeniMax] Players hindering other players from content.
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Chomag✭✭✭This game is hilariously non-functional. It seems like it works at 1st glance but it really doesn't.2 -
Aemesh23✭✭Silly as it sounds, I can see why players from pvp might resort to this too; THERE ARE SO DAMN MANY VAMPIRES >.< Why not cull the herd when it seems like there are too many of em ( i mean, who cares about daedric invasions, there's twice as many vampires in cyrodiil, and they're a lot more dangerous)
But yes, "rp" and sheer irritation aren't an excuse to charge people for bites while spawning the camp. SO all you vampire and werewolf fanboys, STOP PAYING. Are you daft? its only the second week, you are feeding the machine. Stop purchasing bites, wait one week, and your spawns will be clear. You think they'll waste their whole week camping the spawn if nobody pays? They'll move on to the next quick buck.
Of course, I recognize that it's hard to motivate this as a community movement. The damage is done, and now everyone has to eat a piece of this funk. So, go on Zenimax, punt them camp spawners. While you're at it, make a quest for us non-vampire non-werewolves to become some third race, like "slayers" from Buffy. Sick and tired of every second enemy i run across turning to mist the moment the fight goes bad. I mean, they still die fleeing, but chasing these chump vamps around is taxing my patience. lol . Go find a coffin.0 -
DragonMother✭✭✭
This is a pretty sound idea for handling the ww spawn camping as well.Jadeviper1974 wrote: »You know this actually has a much less complicated solution than I have thought of before. Just have a GM randomly pop into the area and watch, If someone kills a vamp mob and then offers to sell his bite he is part of the problem and he can be banned right there. Once a few folks get banned and they realize the checks are random, this crap will stop.
Demi, Adult female, Guild leader, Roleplayer & TES enthusiastStatus: Inactive until further notice.
I trust my instincts, more than I trust other peoples opinions.
Four years, and still present. Sanguine still lives.0 -
Rin9les✭Simple answer. Those who are already infected for Vamp/WW go to relevant zone where spawn campers are and offer bites for free. Put a forum post up advertising free bites - grief the griefers. It will soon stop the camping idiots when people can get the bites for free elsewhere.3 -
fiachsidhe✭✭✭
You're a bite-seller, aren't you? Otherwise there's no reason for you to be defending this griefing.Hyperventilate wrote: »I understand the frustration of "I want it NOW and I want it for FREE because...content!" but by someone killing a naturally hostile non-vital enemy... not griefing.
i give you another reason: roleplaying. i will kill every DAMN ww and vampire I can find!
Bull. I'm willing to bet you never speak in character, and this is as far as your "roleplaying" goes.
I love it when griefers conveniently become "roleplayers" to excuse being a jerk.
I'm rping a dickish thief!
I'm in a war, so I have to spend all day killing the enemy venders to reduce their supply line!
Don't have an intelligent argument? Just LOL a post!
Dire Crow - Ebonheart Pact - Dunmer Nightblade4 -
fiachsidhe✭✭✭Aww, how precious. Do you have a cool poet hat and a fake cigarette too?
Personally, I absolutely love the WoD universe, with the older Masquerade being my favourite. However, this thread is pure nonsense. You just want something for no effort WHATSOEVER because, well reasons.
It took me 7h of camping in the Rift and organizing a raid composed of random people who just happened to be in the zone to camp the spawns evenly. Then, when they spawned, we all went there and let everyone get infected by having the infected one just run away till the mob reset. Bam, around 40 people got vampirism from a single spawn.
Yeah, people killing them can be annoying but so is people taking resource nodes, killing quest mobs etc. You just DEAL with it.
EDIT: In fact, should I write a ticket every time someone beats me to a chest with the intent to sell the item? What if don't get loot rights to a pub dungeon boss due to it dying too fast? Am I entitled to the loot? What if I go to a Dolmen, and it literally just ends, can I report everyone involved in it from hindering me because I didn't get the completion, and have to wait? What about resource nodes? If the person isn't a woodwoker, and takes a wood node, can I report them for hindering my woodworking progression?
This complaint is dumb. Go play a singleplayer game.
No the complaint isn't dumb. Your responses are, however.
Here's your position in a nutshell:
"I was able to get it just fine. Now that I'm taken care of, it doesn't matter to me. Thus it shouldn't matter to anyone. So I'm gonna sit in this thread, antagonizing anyone who didn't get it easy like me. and pretend I'm mature and lacking in stupid arguments.
I'll also reduce the real argument to one that is easier for me to argue, by making it about people simply being impatient. Rather than the key issue of people intentionally inhibiting other players out of selfishness, and greed"
Because if you have been waiting for these rare mobs to spawn and someone ran up and killed it, then offered to bite you for 20,000+ gold, you'd be pissed. If someone wasted those seven hours of your time, you'd be angry, but you don't have that problem. Yeah some people don't like being extorted, or griefed. But hey, congratulations on not having to go through it.
Your edit is pure strawman fallacy. No, you shouldn't report everyone who simply gets to a chest before you. No one holds chests for ransom for tens of thousands of gold. Entire builds don't rely on the items you get in a chest. Chests are everywhere, and aren't rare spawns in specific zones.
What a moronic argument.
The more you argue the more you really look like a party who has something to lose in this.Edited by fiachsidhe on April 19, 2014 3:33AMDon't have an intelligent argument? Just LOL a post!
Dire Crow - Ebonheart Pact - Dunmer Nightblade3 -
I am the hero Tamriel deserves.
You will thank me someday for killing those filthy undead mobs and saving you from becoming infected with the virus.
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fiachsidhe✭✭✭mike101642rwb17_ESO wrote: »So many 10yr olds crying "Mum he killed my werewolf spawn"
All Zenimax need to do is ENABLE WORLD PVP!
The "anyone who insist on reasonably fair play etiquette (let alone TOS terms), in a PvE zone, is a 'crying 10 year old' and should PvP, like a 'real' player", defense.
We quote TOS violations, ZOS says they will look into it, and we get this gem of a stance on expectation of TOS adherence from the rigid right wing Fighters guild extremist. Not really selling the RP cause here.
Curiosity how many of those hard core vampire/WW hating fighters guild members who feel the need to exterminate the lands of the vile deadric creatures, are themselves WW or Vamp?? Kinda blows RP out the window there too.
Not to mention many of them actually making a profit off of spreading the disease they so loathe. Kind of defeats the purpose of hunting down every Vamp/WW to extinction, when you're making more.
If they were sincere about RP, they'd never return to the Fighters guild out of fear that they'd be killed on sight.Edited by fiachsidhe on April 17, 2014 10:30PMDon't have an intelligent argument? Just LOL a post!
Dire Crow - Ebonheart Pact - Dunmer Nightblade3 -
SMW1980b14a_ESO✭✭✭Not only that, but after wasting hours circling zones in the alleged appropriate time of day and even moon cycles, my group has never seen one or even a corpse of one. Ultra rare combined with D-bags trying to control the bite economy is just shameful.I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein2 -
Altaris16_ESOSoul ShrivenThe best solution for this problem would be to place everyone who kill vamps or werewolfs in the same server on our megaserver. Zen just have to make a small patch to transfer these players to same server, it cant be that hard for Zen to track who kills them. Everybody wins like this
We the players who want to get infected can do it without anybody killing them
And the best part. all these new "roleplaying" campers can roleplay all they want together with the rest who wanna kill them
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cheeser123✭✭✭Typical ES fan:
"In Elder Scrolls games, you should be able to play any way you want. UNLESS IT AFFECTS ME NEGATIVELY."
Typical Bunk:
"I am going to be a contrarian nay-sayer about legitimate complaints because I am basically a troll wrapped inside an enigma wrapped inside a pile of rotten cat food wrapped inside a troll."
Griefing is griefing. It's not fair, and whether it's a design change, enforcement, bans, or just the slow tide of social factors in the MMO, something should displace people who block access to game content for money (real or in-game).
"Give me your lunch money or I won't let you play with the blocks." Didn't we all learn that this wasn't okay at age 5?5 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭If a player is in some way hindering other players from progressing or accessing content that should be for everyone in the game. Is that a violation of your terms?
One of these situations are players camping and killing NPC's so that others cant become a Vampire.
And if this is a violation. Are you going to do anything about it?
Zenimax said they will be banning those individuals/guilds that grief players this way.0 -
Jadeviper1974✭✭✭http://www.zenimax.com/legal_terms.htm
8. Rules of Conduct
"Take any action, organize, transmit any content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law* or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"
"Harass, stalk, threaten, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another user of any Services that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages"
"Engage in disruptive behavior in chat areas, game areas, forums, or any other area or aspect of the Services. Examples of disruptive behavior include, but is not limited to, conduct which interferes with the normal flow of gameplay or dialogue within a Service,"
"Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity inncluding hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or virtual currency/items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;
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...there it is in black and tan word for word out of the TOS.
As like @ZOS_TristanK said...ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Hi, all. If you feel like a player is violating our Terms of Service, we invite you to file a report in-game. Our team will certainly look into the report, and determine if it is indeed a violation.
When reporting, make sure you mouse over and tag the chat window to make sure that if someone is trying to EXPLOIT currency from you in ANYWAY shape or form it gets captured in the screenshot.
YES, ALWAYS SEND A SCREENSHOT!
*blackmail/extortion
in a reasonable person's view, objectionable
Well that sort of squashes all of that, then!
j/k
Except that the person that declares themselves to be the reasonable the loudest, usually isn't.
As a reasonable person I believe that this behavior is an offense should result in a ban, so now who is more reasonable.
What this will come down to is how many paying costumers are griping about it, the more that complain and report people the more likely that something will be done to stop it.
The easiest way is to just have a GM pop in randomly to the spawn areas and hand around for a few moments.What is written above are my honest opinions. If you agree then; "Great!" If you disagree; "Great!" I really couldn't care less either way.1 -
Jadeviper1974✭✭✭lyndsayporterb16_ESO wrote: »OMG there's other people in my MMO! FIX NOW OR I QUIT!
Seriously, this is becoming ridiculous now. Toddle off to Skyrim to play your twilight fantasies.
I like how everyone in this game brings up Twilight in reference to werewolves and vampires. Guess what? You're not clever or even remotely funny. Is that the only medium you're aware of that happens to be about supernatural creatures? Do you not read literature at all? Contrary to trolling idiots and their beliefs, vampires and werewolves have been around well before the existence of Twilight, unless you're 12 years old with no understanding of the world whatsoever outside of raging nerds on the interwebs.
Especially since my opinion of Twilight goes something like; Vamps should only sparkle when you hit them with a flame thrower and the one thing that could have made that series better was Blade.What is written above are my honest opinions. If you agree then; "Great!" If you disagree; "Great!" I really couldn't care less either way.1 -
I have to laugh at those claiming it is rp reasons, as I stated in a prior post here. If you are TRUELY rping, you would not be constantly camping the mob. Day and Night would affect your hunt. You may not can die, but any damage done by a vampire/werewolf (nights damage is even heavy, to the point of brutal) would be different.
If rping when do you rest from your hard driving hunt? Also, when do you rest from the injuries? Or even temp death?
Another point for that I'm rping because of the Fighter's guild..So why aren't you rping treason when you allow someone to PAY for a bite. You are going against the fighter guild. Then there is the vamp and werewolf war. Still in effect is the wounds, rest, and etc.
By reading both the forum discussion I note you are rping just for the sake of an excuse to stop others from enjoying the game, griefing those that want to get bit, or just so you can line your in game pockets with in game gold.
Now if I came across some real rpers that did indeed rp, I would be astonished. For this would mean none were camping or slaughtering the mobs all the time.
Humans vs vamps/werewolves at night would have a deep disadvantage over these creatures it would not be the whole guild surviving or large group surviving without a scratch...1 -
Jadeviper1974✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »If a player is in some way hindering other players from progressing or accessing content that should be for everyone in the game. Is that a violation of your terms?
One of these situations are players camping and killing NPC's so that others cant become a Vampire.
And if this is a violation. Are you going to do anything about it?
Zenimax said they will be banning those individuals/guilds that grief players this way.
As much as I believe it is deserved for this behavior, I don't remember seeing anyone from Zeni saying that they were gonna ban for it, but that they would look into it.What is written above are my honest opinions. If you agree then; "Great!" If you disagree; "Great!" I really couldn't care less either way.1 -
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Aww, how precious. Do you have a cool poet hat and a fake cigarette too?
Personally, I absolutely love the WoD universe, with the older Masquerade being my favourite. However, this thread is pure nonsense. You just want something for no effort WHATSOEVER because, well reasons.
It took me 7h of camping in the Rift and organizing a raid composed of random people who just happened to be in the zone to camp the spawns evenly. Then, when they spawned, we all went there and let everyone get infected by having the infected one just run away till the mob reset. Bam, around 40 people got vampirism from a single spawn.
Yeah, people killing them can be annoying but so is people taking resource nodes, killing quest mobs etc. You just DEAL with it.
EDIT: In fact, should I write a ticket every time someone beats me to a chest with the intent to sell the item? What if don't get loot rights to a pub dungeon boss due to it dying too fast? Am I entitled to the loot? What if I go to a Dolmen, and it literally just ends, can I report everyone involved in it from hindering me because I didn't get the completion, and have to wait? What about resource nodes? If the person isn't a woodwoker, and takes a wood node, can I report them for hindering my woodworking progression?
This complaint is dumb. Go play a singleplayer game.
I said nothing about getting infected (already am), so whatever point you were trying to make is null and void.
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Valdavia✭DragonMother wrote: »
This is a pretty sound idea for handling the ww spawn camping as well.Jadeviper1974 wrote: »You know this actually has a much less complicated solution than I have thought of before. Just have a GM randomly pop into the area and watch, If someone kills a vamp mob and then offers to sell his bite he is part of the problem and he can be banned right there. Once a few folks get banned and they realize the checks are random, this crap will stop.
Not sure why you feel like you deserve to be a vampire or werewolf. I didnt see any GM,devs, or anyone from Zenimax pointing out the spawns and passing out bites or helping to complete the questline afterwards either so stop crying to the devs because you are not part of the family. EARN IT if you want it.
Edited by ZOS_JuhoJ on April 28, 2014 3:15AM0 -
LarZen✭✭✭Jadeviper1974 wrote: »Lord help us you cry babies are ***. Not sure why you feel like you deserve to be a vampire or werewolf. I didnt see any GM,devs, or anyone from Zenimax pointing out the spawns and passing out bites or helping to complete the questline afterwards either so stop crying to the devs because you are not part of the family. EARN IT if you want it.
How can you earn it if people are stopping you from engaging the NPC's?
And calling others from cry babies and *** just shows you are in need of some net etiquette and comes of as a typical internet/forum bully. So maybe you should look in the mirror before you start calling people names.3 -
Valdavia✭Jadeviper1974 wrote: »Lord help us you cry babies are ***. Not sure why you feel like you deserve to be a vampire or werewolf. I didnt see any GM,devs, or anyone from Zenimax pointing out the spawns and passing out bites or helping to complete the questline afterwards either so stop crying to the devs because you are not part of the family. EARN IT if you want it.
How can you earn it if people are stopping you from engaging the NPC's?
And calling others from cry babies and *** just shows you are in need of some net etiquette and comes of as a typical internet/forum bully. So maybe you should look in the mirror before you start calling people names.
first i will address how you engage the NPC's despite established vampires controlling access to their bloodline:
1. Do your research and you will find that there are bloodfiend spawns all over the maps besides the locations that are being regulated by players.
2. Join a guild that has what you want. Be active in that guild and they WILL HELP YOU.
Next the cry baby issue: calling a pot a pot is not name calling nor does it display a lack of etiquette or a desire to be a bully. But in fact you guys are crying to the devs because you want to be hand fed the content. I spent a full seven levels literally exploring for vampirism, reading lore books found in game, and watching the moon. It was WORK and it paid off for me and for others. My response to people in game asking to be turned is simple, "tell me when you think they spawn and i'll group you up and take you to a spawn."
The fact is that it doesn't matter if you pay to play a game that does not entitle you to the best gear, the best stats, or anything other than the availability of content. The way you guys are ranting and crying makes it appear that you feel that your character should be fully equipped and max level upon creation.2 -
LarZen✭✭✭You are making way to many assumptions about players and people writing about people camping NPC's .0
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aeroch✭✭✭As loll as the RPing griefers are, the "you're not RPing correctly" crowd is definitely the lollest1
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Inco✭✭✭✭OMG people are just trolling here.. read four pages of it...
Several that HAVE and several that HAVE NOT. Biggest issue is those with "HAVE" are wanting to remain special snowflakes and go out of their way to make sure others don't get that title. (Few exceptions mind you of decent folks)
Meanwhile... moderation and banning needs to happen. I always like to fire up FRAPS and capture some of the stupidity of our fellow human beings. Oh yea.. REPORT those that are clearly being tools. (One dude camped at Motes for 3 days preventing reset).
Oh for the record... "I want to RP" or "Fighters Guild XP" is a complete BS argument and you know it. LOL - you can get both just fine in 99% of the map.3 -
fiachsidhe✭✭✭Jadeviper1974 wrote: »Lord help us you cry babies are ***. Not sure why you feel like you deserve to be a vampire or werewolf. I didnt see any GM,devs, or anyone from Zenimax pointing out the spawns and passing out bites or helping to complete the questline afterwards either so stop crying to the devs because you are not part of the family. EARN IT if you want it.
How can you earn it if people are stopping you from engaging the NPC's?
And calling others from cry babies and *** just shows you are in need of some net etiquette and comes of as a typical internet/forum bully. So maybe you should look in the mirror before you start calling people names.
first i will address how you engage the NPC's despite established vampires controlling access to their bloodline:
1. Do your research and you will find that there are bloodfiend spawns all over the maps besides the locations that are being regulated by players.
2. Join a guild that has what you want. Be active in that guild and they WILL HELP YOU.
Next the cry baby issue: calling a pot a pot is not name calling nor does it display a lack of etiquette or a desire to be a bully. But in fact you guys are crying to the devs because you want to be hand fed the content. I spent a full seven levels literally exploring for vampirism, reading lore books found in game, and watching the moon. It was WORK and it paid off for me and for others. My response to people in game asking to be turned is simple, "tell me when you think they spawn and i'll group you up and take you to a spawn."
The fact is that it doesn't matter if you pay to play a game that does not entitle you to the best gear, the best stats, or anything other than the availability of content. The way you guys are ranting and crying makes it appear that you feel that your character should be fully equipped and max level upon creation.
Crying about crying is still crying.
Let me guess, another disingenuous bite seller not so subtly defending your right to grief? Or another self important forum contrarian looking to feel better about yourself, by attacking any complaint you see while feigning a maturity that most certainly lack- without fully understanding the complaint itself?
1. Do what research? Is there some secret research that we have acess to, that the griefing vampire guilds don't? As if the almighty (and oft never specified) "research" isn't something the griefers also considered.
2. Translation: Join the guilds that are doing the griefing. This is a huge hint as to where your motives are. You sound like a member of the guilds doing the extorting, as said guilds bite each other for free.
If I called you what you are, I'd be banned. So I'll refrain.
You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Not a clue. You come into this thread, barely educate yourself (making your "do the research" comment all the more ironic), with a handful of the usual cliches and fallacies common to your type.
No one wants anything on a silver platter. They just don't want to be GRIEFED. People already are in a position where they are earning the content in the way it is meant to be earned, so I have no idea how you can even make that claim.
Meanwhile the people who are extorting money from players are the ones who want gold handed to them without any effort.
When people camp a spawn for hours and hours, you can't say they want things without effort.
Use your God damned head.Don't have an intelligent argument? Just LOL a post!
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Valdavia✭fiachsidhe wrote: »Jadeviper1974 wrote: »Lord help us you cry babies are ***. Not sure why you feel like you deserve to be a vampire or werewolf. I didnt see any GM,devs, or anyone from Zenimax pointing out the spawns and passing out bites or helping to complete the questline afterwards either so stop crying to the devs because you are not part of the family. EARN IT if you want it.
How can you earn it if people are stopping you from engaging the NPC's?
And calling others from cry babies and *** just shows you are in need of some net etiquette and comes of as a typical internet/forum bully. So maybe you should look in the mirror before you start calling people names.
first i will address how you engage the NPC's despite established vampires controlling access to their bloodline:
1. Do your research and you will find that there are bloodfiend spawns all over the maps besides the locations that are being regulated by players.
2. Join a guild that has what you want. Be active in that guild and they WILL HELP YOU.
Next the cry baby issue: calling a pot a pot is not name calling nor does it display a lack of etiquette or a desire to be a bully. But in fact you guys are crying to the devs because you want to be hand fed the content. I spent a full seven levels literally exploring for vampirism, reading lore books found in game, and watching the moon. It was WORK and it paid off for me and for others. My response to people in game asking to be turned is simple, "tell me when you think they spawn and i'll group you up and take you to a spawn."
The fact is that it doesn't matter if you pay to play a game that does not entitle you to the best gear, the best stats, or anything other than the availability of content. The way you guys are ranting and crying makes it appear that you feel that your character should be fully equipped and max level upon creation.
Crying about crying is still crying.
Let me guess, another disingenuous bite seller not so subtly defending your right to grief? Or another self important forum contrarian looking to feel better about yourself, by attacking any complaint you see while feigning a maturity that most certainly lack- without fully understanding the complaint itself?
Nope not all. I don't sell my bites at all. I wont sell my bites at all.
1. Do what research? Is there some secret research that we have acess to, that the griefing vampire guilds don't? As if the almighty (and oft never specified) "research" isn't something the griefers also considered.
There is plenty of research. Lore books all over the place. Bookshelves full of stuff to read. Just like skyrim and other elder scroll games you might have to actually crack a book. some of those lore books actually tell you about the cave i was bitten.
3. Translation: Join the guilds that are doing the griefing. This is a huge hint as to where your motives are. You sound like a member of the guilds doing the extorting, as said guilds bite each other for free.
My guild doesn't grief the spawns. very few of the people in my guild actually know where the spawns are. We have an established guild way of making sure the people in our guild who want the bite of werewolf or vampire get it from guild members.
If I called you what you are, I'd be banned. So I'll refrain.
You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Not a clue. You come into this thread, barely educate yourself (making your "do the research" comment all the more ironic), with a handful of the usual cliches and fallacies common to your type.
No one wants anything on a silver platter. They just don't want to be GRIEFED. People already are in a position where they are earning the content in the way it is meant to be earned, so I have no idea how you can even make that claim.
Meanwhile the people who are extorting money from players are the ones who want gold handed to them without any effort.
When people camp a spawn for hours and hours, you can't say they want things without effort.
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DragonMother✭✭✭
I'm working on getting my WW ranks up to do just that. You have the right idea on this though, in fact, I will make a thread to create a list.Simple answer. Those who are already infected for Vamp/WW go to relevant zone where spawn campers are and offer bites for free. Put a forum post up advertising free bites - grief the griefers. It will soon stop the camping idiots when people can get the bites for free elsewhere.Demi, Adult female, Guild leader, Roleplayer & TES enthusiastStatus: Inactive until further notice.
I trust my instincts, more than I trust other peoples opinions.
Four years, and still present. Sanguine still lives.0 -
aRealClassAct✭✭✭I have a Templar who I roleplay as a WW/Vamp hunter. I don't care if you think that's dumb, I like to RP, and the best way to stem the flow of WWs and Vampires is to stop them at the source. Plus I think it adds a sense of realism to the game. If you want to be a vamp or wolf it shouldn't be something you can just do immediately, it should be a rare thing that you are able to get.
I also don't see any issue with players selling bites (for in game currency). It is a rare affliction that others desire and if people want to buy in then sell away. If I were a vampire and some weirdo wanted my curse I would charge him a bunch of money and buy a mansion.
EDIT: Join a WW or Vamp guild that is offering to bite. Or better yet, May 1st is free bite day.... www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonlineEdited by aRealClassAct on April 25, 2014 3:50PM1 -
Phyrdrin✭✭✭✭aRealClassAct wrote: »I have a Templar who I roleplay as a WW/Vamp hunter. I don't care if you think that's dumb, I like to RP, and the best way to stem the flow of WWs and Vampires is to stop them at the source. Plus I think it adds a sense of realism to the game. If you want to be a vamp or wolf it shouldn't be something you can just do immediately, it should be a rare thing that you are able to get.
I also don't see any issue with players selling bites (for in game currency). It is a rare affliction that others desire and if people want to buy in then sell away. If I were a vampire and some weirdo wanted my curse I would charge him a bunch of money and buy a mansion.
I can sympathize with your argument in some ways, but you have to realize that not everyone is like you. What is considered "griefing" isn't simple RP. It's people that do this on purpose or hide behind a lame excuse. There are tons of mobs out there for you to "slay" in your epic quest of rooting out the undead. Instead of supporting the griefers and exploiters, consider killing those.
In other news - people are standing up against this. I know for a fact that GM's are working on a resolution of this while the community itself has individuals who counter these exploiters by creating guilds where bites are offered on a waiting list basis at no cost. It will take some effort to find these guilds, as they are not advertised for good reason, but once you find these people you will see that it was well worth the wait to encounter the rare "good samaritans".
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