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Burningspell weave fire staff
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ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Oreyn_Bearclaw Thanks again! I'll definitely try some of those and experiment more. That cleared up a lot of confusion I had about when to use the sets.PC l NA
Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
Legends never die1 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Edited by JumpmanLane on February 13, 2020 5:31PM1 -
Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
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33% uptime vs 66% uptime?JumpmanLane wrote: »Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Is succession no longer a 'rotating' bonus?
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS0 -
TirantLoBlanch✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Sucession dont gives you the sustain. BSW gives s increase of 15% on the chance of burning effect, and the combustion passive grants you ressources in return.
This is far more interesting in the most part of scenarios. Mother Sorrow or Succesion only give a little edge when you have the ideal raid composition to backup you.
After a lot of trial and error, i find BSw+PFG the most versatile combination for a DK in real ingame situations... Parses in the Raid dummy rarely can reflect that...
By the way, farming the Sucession fire staff can be the real pain in the arse, there are no way to skip all the maelstrom to open this final chest...0 -
sedi✭✭✭✭Took me over 100 runs I think. It's one of the easiest grinds for difficulty but if you don't get lucky it seems endless! Good luck1 -
Canned_Apples✭✭✭✭✭
✭I found that farming chests in coa1 was the fastest way. Normal---switch to vet--switch to normal. Most can be unlocked without engaging in combat- some require clever positioning.
You'll get two chests in most runs, but getting only one isn't uncommon. (some chest spawns happen in the second half of the dungeon)
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illusiouk✭✭✭Its just the luck of the draw. It took me over 100 runs of soloing COA1, with grouping for COA 2 in between before my staff dropped. A few months later I started a new character and it dropped in the first COA 1 dungeon i did, that was a face palm moment.
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Miraslova✭✭✭I just got one in Vet ash 2 off a trash mob, lol."An it harm none, do what thou wilt"0 -
Somewhere✭✭✭✭TirantLoBlanch wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Sucession dont gives you the sustain. BSW gives s increase of 15% on the chance of burning effect, and the combustion passive grants you ressources in return.
This is far more interesting in the most part of scenarios. Mother Sorrow or Succesion only give a little edge when you have the ideal raid composition to backup you.
After a lot of trial and error, i find BSw+PFG the most versatile combination for a DK in real ingame situations... Parses in the Raid dummy rarely can reflect that...
By the way, farming the Sucession fire staff can be the real pain in the arse, there are no way to skip all the maelstrom to open this final chest...
The burning only gets reapplied on the cooldown of BSW itself, and that's 12 seconds. That amounts to only 40 magicka a second. You're better off with a charged staff.0 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
33% uptime vs 66% uptime?JumpmanLane wrote: »Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Is succession no longer a 'rotating' bonus?
Nope. It’s not rotating. They changed it. READ IT. LOL.TirantLoBlanch wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Sucession dont gives you the sustain. BSW gives s increase of 15% on the chance of burning effect, and the combustion passive grants you ressources in return.
This is far more interesting in the most part of scenarios. Mother Sorrow or Succesion only give a little edge when you have the ideal raid composition to backup you.
After a lot of trial and error, i find BSw+PFG the most versatile combination for a DK in real ingame situations... Parses in the Raid dummy rarely can reflect that...
By the way, farming the Sucession fire staff can be the real pain in the arse, there are no way to skip all the maelstrom to open this final chest...
I’m talking about MAGICKA DRAGONKNIGHT in CYRODIIL killing fools DEAD!
You talking about FIVE HUNDRED magicka return on a 15% CHANCE. Hmmm...
Well I’m not talking about Dummy-Parse Warriors. I’m not even talking about Players versus the ENVIRONMENT. I’m talking about Players versus PLAYERS...and I’M saying Succession hits harder and is up longer. Way easier to line up your burst and KILL folks! DEAD!
Further, I maintain there’s more satisfaction in that than killing algorithms.
Though, I DO agree with you about farming Succession flame staves. About that you’re 100% right. And I’m willing to take your word on BSW being better for PvE.
Personally, I wouldn’t waste my time farming either BSW OR Succession for PvE. I’d run Julianos Spinners or MOS and call it a day lol. PvE ain’t THAT serious...if you mind the mechanics.
Edited by JumpmanLane on February 13, 2020 10:28PM0 -
CycnusX1TheGreat✭✭✭Run it on a Stam alt. I always seem to get more swords on my mag characters and staves on my stamina characters.1 -
TirantLoBlanch✭✭✭TirantLoBlanch wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Sucession dont gives you the sustain. BSW gives s increase of 15% on the chance of burning effect, and the combustion passive grants you ressources in return.
This is far more interesting in the most part of scenarios. Mother Sorrow or Succesion only give a little edge when you have the ideal raid composition to backup you.
After a lot of trial and error, i find BSw+PFG the most versatile combination for a DK in real ingame situations... Parses in the Raid dummy rarely can reflect that...
By the way, farming the Sucession fire staff can be the real pain in the arse, there are no way to skip all the maelstrom to open this final chest...
The burning only gets reapplied on the cooldown of BSW itself, and that's 12 seconds. That amounts to only 40 magicka a second. You're better off with a charged staff.
Another thing i forgot to mention is even more important... The increase given by BSW fuffs ALL the spell damage. Sucession only buffs the ELEMENTAL damage. 40 magicka in single target. Tons of magicka when you burn more targets...0 -
Somewhere✭✭✭✭TirantLoBlanch wrote: »TirantLoBlanch wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »Succession hits harder. Up longer...lol. Now farming THAT inferno is worth crying about
Sucession dont gives you the sustain. BSW gives s increase of 15% on the chance of burning effect, and the combustion passive grants you ressources in return.
This is far more interesting in the most part of scenarios. Mother Sorrow or Succesion only give a little edge when you have the ideal raid composition to backup you.
After a lot of trial and error, i find BSw+PFG the most versatile combination for a DK in real ingame situations... Parses in the Raid dummy rarely can reflect that...
By the way, farming the Sucession fire staff can be the real pain in the arse, there are no way to skip all the maelstrom to open this final chest...
The burning only gets reapplied on the cooldown of BSW itself, and that's 12 seconds. That amounts to only 40 magicka a second. You're better off with a charged staff.
Another thing i forgot to mention is even more important... The increase given by BSW fuffs ALL the spell damage. Sucession only buffs the ELEMENTAL damage. 40 magicka in single target. Tons of magicka when you burn more targets...
The fact that it boosts healing is reason enough to run BSW tbh, but the gear set still has an internal cooldown. It doesn't matter how many enemies you are targeting, only a single one is gonna get hit with that burn from BSW. 1 target vs 100, you won't receive a lot of magicka return from it.1 -
thadjarvis✭✭✭✭Bah: try farming all the tank sets from dungeons (many are 3 weapons each) and vMoL, perfect Lokk DW (it was AY before), or every freaking healer set lightning staff...
BSW has perfectly capable alternatives (PvE or PvP) and it’s the easiest BoP staff to get. The big PITA for mag farming is perfected Siroria Fire staff. Succession, scathing, MA, or perfect asylum fire staffs are all much tougher to get than BSW.Edited by thadjarvis on February 14, 2020 3:56AM0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭thadjarvis wrote: »The only PITA mag farm is perfected Siroria Fire staff.
Nope.
There is also the Elemental Succession Flame staff which is a much harder farm then either Siroria or BSW.0 -
thadjarvis✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »thadjarvis wrote: »The only PITA mag farm is perfected Siroria Fire staff.
Nope.
There is also the Elemental Succession Flame staff which is a much harder farm then either Siroria or BSW.
Indeed I was editing as you posted. There are several staffs harder than bsw. Bsw is the easy one.
Edited by thadjarvis on February 14, 2020 4:02AM0 -
Fischblut✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I had a friend in 2018, who gave me his Master resto staff after one of our DSA runs. And when he once asked me to help him farm some BSW, I joined. And in just one run, from the last boss:
As thanks for the Master staff, I gave this to him
After some time, he was no longer my friend cause overall he was very unpleasant person
And I never got any BSW flame staff before or after, it dropped that one time just so I could give it away 0 -
Grianasteri✭✭✭✭✭
✭blacksghost wrote: »I know I have heard of a rare few instances of the staff dropping but it seems almost impossible to acquire. What is the actual drop rate? is it so hard to get deliberately because its recommended by Alcaste for the Beamplar? If its this low how the heck did he get one ???
The drop rate is horrendously low.
But, it is all swings & roundabouts, RNG. It took me half a dozen or so runs to get the staff, in fact I dropped two in that time! So the grind for BSW for me really wasnt arduous at all.
Compare & contrast that farm to the Undaunted Infiltrator shock staff from Arx Corinium... I have run that dungeon over 300 times, not a single drop. Frankly I do not expect it ever to drop now, so I am no longer disappointing. I just run the dungeon several times a week, sometimes several times a day, and accept it wont drop.0 -
Raudgrani✭✭✭✭✭
✭Never wanted it that bad, but I've been in random groups twice, where people have linked it in chat. Been helping people farm it, but never we've had one, and never had one myself either at other times. I would recommend jewelry and two armor pieces, or like I've done it - armor 5 pieces altogether.
I have had most "fabled" dungeon drops I can think of. Wormcult/Lich/Caluurion resto staves to name a few + of course all Maelstrom weapons (I had TWO bows once during Orsinium event, just as a fun anecdote).
Just imagine the grind, before you could even trait change. It's literally unhealthy, to more or less FORCE dedicated players to grind that way to get sets they want.0 -
NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Imagine farming this weapon again because someone convinced them to raise the gear cap.Fear is the Mindkiller0 -
thadjarvis✭✭✭✭Is BSW staff worth hard farming anyway since NMA (PvE or PvP) came out? I have a BSW but can’t think of situation in which I couldn’t go without it.
Silks of the Sun too PvP for magDK
There are other alternatives but the farming is often worse.
There’s many BIS dungeon weapons to farm. Not sure if I’d include BSW in that; probably one level down “nice to have”.
Point is if the farming is a drag you may not need to grind it in misery at all.
If you’re stumped not having it NMA should work or ask and experts of your class/application can help suggest alternatives.Edited by thadjarvis on February 14, 2020 2:18PM0 -
Parasaurolophus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have already created a thread where I offered to give one jewelry and one weapon as a reward for completing the hard mod. I still think that even after the introduction of the transmutation system, getting the right weapon is terribly difficult.PC/EU0 -
Freakin_Hytte✭✭✭✭✭I actually just got one on the first run of CoA 2 after starting up a new char on NA from EU. My first one to get on EU took me 3 years of farming. I probably ran it around 200 times. So that I got one now on
The first run feels sooooo good.0