Burningspell weave fire staff

blacksghost · February 10

I know I have heard of a rare few instances of the staff dropping but it seems almost impossible to acquire. What is the actual drop rate? is it so hard to get deliberately because its recommended by Alcaste for the Beamplar? If its this low how the heck did he get one ???

thorwyn · February 10

Solo the dungeon (CoA1 is not that hard) and look out for every chest you can get. It's still a lot of grinding, but you will eventually get one. I had 2 drops in one run the other day.

Edit: also... work around the staff for the time being. I don't know what Alcast recommends as the second set, I reckon Mother's Sorrow.. that would make it a lot easier to get a staff without ruining your build.

Sephyr · February 10

Usually having three other friends willing to give you that drop helps increase the odds rather than just using the group finder alone. I can't say if CoA I or II has a better drop rate, but it was faster by doing CoA I normals over and over again until I got it. For the record though, it's always been hard to get just like every other magicka set. I've been farming for months for Restoration Lich staves with friends and not a one aside for the one time one of my friends brought in a lowbie to get a skillpoint.

Just don't push yourself to get it right away. Supplement/wiggle the other sets around if at all possible until you can get it.

Sanguinor2 · February 10

I dont know if it works These days but the way I got mine some years ago was to Group with someone, make him log off but not leave the Group and then Always port to vet CoA 1 (vet is important for better chests), be a magblade with enough lockpicks and permacloak past everything with speedbuffs and just open chests (all chests are accessible without having to fight a single mob or boss iirc) then switch to normal, back to vet, so the dungeon resets and repeat.

idk · February 10

I have seen it drop more often in the past couple years then before Zos adjusted how gear drops.

Solo normal or get a group of guild mates to farm it with you so you have a greater chance to get it to drop.

Raisin · February 10

I've dropped a few here and there, usually not when farming for it. Given away one or two I believe. Most people I know have dropped theirs eventually, but after a long grind. I'm not sure if the rumor that BiS weapons/sets drop less often is true though, or if it's just perception because we farm it more. When you're actively looking for something, time does seem to stretch endlessly.

So yeah, I don't know the exact drop rate, though I believe weapons in general have a lower chance. I do know that it's quite notorious and there's a lot less accounts of dropping it fast than with any other BiS gear. But in the end, I certainly wouldn't call it 'impossible to acquire' or agree that there's 'rare few instances of it dropping' -- it's not some super insane rare drop. Just comes down to RNG. Potentially weighted RNG.

Alternatively, I'm the statistical outlier who's dropping all the BSW infernos.

Zer0_CooL · February 10

No one can tell you a relyable droprate, since its all RNG. I farmed mine for an eternity ran it 60+ times. Few months later, the next time i was in CoA1 i ran on a new char lvl 25. Guess what, i now have a BSW flamestaff lvl 25.

But i'd say its worth the grind since it gives you more freedom to build.

Curious_Death · February 10

blacksghost wrote: »

I know I have heard of a rare few instances of the staff dropping but it seems almost impossible to acquire. What is the actual drop rate? is it so hard to get deliberately because its recommended by Alcaste for the Beamplar? If its this low how the heck did he get one ???

take all of possible loot and (4+4+4+1+10)*3=72 + 14 uniques = 86 items than can drop during dung and ur chance to get staff is 1.3157894736842106% chance to get one staff during whole dung...

final boss drops around 38-40 items

and your chance is around 2.5% to get fire staff of ur set. (invite 3 friends... its extra 7.5%=10% isn't that hard)

idk · February 10

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

No one can tell you a relyable droprate, since its all RNG. I farmed mine for an eternity ran it 60+ times. After few months later, the next time i was in CoA1 i ran on a new char lvl 25. Guess what, i now have a BSW flamestaff lvl 25.

But i'd say its worth the grind since it gives you more freedom to build.

I got my staff after I gave up trying to aggressively farm it.

I think when we are pushing ourselves to farm a specific piece of gear we are more focused on that fact we have not gotten it. That is how it was for me. Same thing happened with vMA. After I got the weapons I needed I was not focused on what I had not gotten and it changed how I looked at running the content even though I was still farming weapons.

siddique · February 10

I don't grind it but I've seen it once. Someone in my pug got it, they wanted to trade it for lightning, but wouldn't for any amount of gold.

colossalvoids · February 10

Kinda under the same category as lokke axe/dagger, vas/siroria inferno or any desirable piece you're looking for. Just don't make one particular piece of gear a required must in your setup before actually getting it.

pod88kk · February 10

If you've got a magicka nightblade I HIGHLY recommend trying this method. I got mine after about 4/5 runs but the second and third ones didn't come until around the 20th run. Still worth it though

gatekeeper13 · February 10

Burning Spellweave Inferno staff t has dropped 4 times for me. 3/4 times it dropped in an intermediate chest in vet CoA1. 1/4 it dropped at Valkyn Skoria.

redlink1979 · February 10

colossalvoids wrote: »

Kinda under the same category as lokke axe/dagger, vas/siroria inferno or any desirable piece you're looking for. Just don't make one particular piece of gear a required must in your setup before actually getting it.

No, it isn't under the same rareness category. These drops you mention aren't as rare as the BSW inferno staff - I didn't ran SS n many times and I already got 2 axes.. I got all Siroria staves, from running it so many times...

@blacksghost Besides the bosses n end boss, be sure to find and open the 2 chests there's always in the dungeon: on reddit, last Friday a player posted a pic of 2 infernos staves that dropped from chests.

FierceSam · February 10

I’ve got a few

Like any staff it’s a rare find. Last boss, chests and mobs. And like any staff quest you’ve got to assume it’s going to take forever, do a couple of runs a day and be OK that today wasn’t the day you’re going to get yours.

But you will. And that will be a great day to be in ESO.

Good luck and have fun.

carlos424 · February 10

I haven't used my burning spellweave set in a long time. There are just better sets out there which are way easier to get. As someone mentioned, mother’s sorrow is stronger in todays crit meta. Also, a front bar set like spell strategist is way stronger than burning spellweave. You may say “but spell strategist is single target.” Trust me, pick up a set and you will rarely take off. (Of course you have to be proficient at light attack weaving.)

akdave0 · February 10

I ran the dungeon for a while with groups, I started doing it solo when I got tired of waiting for ques. It dropped for me on the last boss, off trait but didn’t care.

I noticed when solo, it was better for the reason that I didn’t have rush, I could seek out the chest, which I got other pieces of the set, so go solo and it may just happen. It didn’t take too many times once I actively pursued getting it.

MEBengalsFan2001 · February 10

blacksghost wrote: »

I know I have heard of a rare few instances of the staff dropping but it seems almost impossible to acquire. What is the actual drop rate? is it so hard to get deliberately because its recommended by Alcaste for the Beamplar? If its this low how the heck did he get one ???

I get that staff constantly on my character and it maybe do to me not needing the staff.

Kaartinen · February 10

It's really all rng.

Personally, I consider it faster to farm for MS fire staffs. You can farm a public dungeon and hit a ton of chests.

If you have a crew willing to farm COA with you and provide you with the drop, that may prove effective.

SidraWillowsky · February 10

I've never had it drop for me over hundreds of runs, both solo and with groups. I've seen it drop twice for others, who were both kind enough to give it to me. It's been the single most difficult to acquire item in the game for me-

vMA staff? Dropped for me on my third run.

vMA bow? Dropped on fourth run.

Elemental Succession inferno staff? i can't remember exactly when I got it, but it was within 10 or so runs

Mother's Sorrow inferno staff? I've found quite a few

It's absurd- BSW isn't even that great of a set for me. Maybe a MagDK or other class with flame buffs, but on a magden, Spell Strategist outperforms it by miles.

MEBengalsFan2001 · February 10

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

I've never had it drop for me over hundreds of runs, both solo and with groups. I've seen it drop twice for others, who were both kind enough to give it to me. It's been the single most difficult to acquire item in the game for me-

vMA staff? Dropped for me on my third run.

vMA bow? Dropped on fourth run.

Elemental Succession inferno staff? i can't remember exactly when I got it, but it was within 10 or so runs

Mother's Sorrow inferno staff? I've found quite a few

It's absurd- BSW isn't even that great of a set for me. Maybe a MagDK or other class with flame buffs, but on a magden, Spell Strategist outperforms it by miles.

Mother Sorrow I was farming for a friend. He was like we are having ZERO luck. He laughed and said you will probably get one or two after I log off in a bit. He was right. I got two with the traits he wanted. He got his mail the next day and sent me a few thousand gold as a TY. I told him NP and he didn't need to send me the gold as I got 3 other staff that I was able to sell.

My templar has really good RNG. Opening the random undaunted chest I got four shoulders to match the four head pieces I use for my main and tank.

Protoavis73 · February 10

Got it about 2 weeks ago in normal CoA1.
It was a pledge and soloed it. There were no chests at all in the run, which was weird. But the last boss gave me the BSW Inferno Staff.
Still haven't used it as I turned my magplar into a healer some time ago and just haven't changed it back.
Don't even know if the staff is that good.

Bradyfjord · February 10

This is how rng works for all games:

If you want a thing, chances are it won't drop for a long time.
If you don't need/want a thing, chances are you will see it drop several times.

Hope this helps. Hope you get your drop.

Donny_Vito · February 10

It has the same percentage of almost every other fire staff set item that can drop in a dungeon, so there is really nothing special about City of Ash 1.

Cavedog · February 10

...as pointed out by others, do the dungeon on vet level, and be sure to loot every chest. I think it's best to run with friends who are willing to help farm and trade high value items. It really pays to have some farming buddies in this game. ...because, let's face it, getting gear in this game is often a sheer grinding exercise.

Brandathorbel · February 10

Bradyfjord wrote: »

This is how rng works for all games:

If you want a thing, chances are it won't drop for a long time.
If you don't need/want a thing, chances are you will see it drop several times.

Hope this helps. Hope you get your drop.

people need to stop calling this rng, its not. Random means - well - random. These are not random they are weighted which completely destroys the idea that it is.

We have all see that melee magic weapons and stamina staffs drop at a much much higher rate than magic staffs and stamina melee weapons.

also the premier set in a dungeon and trial always seem to have a much lower drop rate.

What they need to do is make things actually - random and remove all the useless stamina staffs and melee magic weapons from the game.

March of sacrifices - the blood moon set does not drop a bow because bow does not process the buff. So they obviously do things like that even though a blood moon bow is needed if you dont have mael bow.

So please, its not random, its weighted drops.

Donny_Vito · February 10

xbobx15 wrote: »

Bradyfjord wrote: »

This is how rng works for all games:

If you want a thing, chances are it won't drop for a long time.
If you don't need/want a thing, chances are you will see it drop several times.

Hope this helps. Hope you get your drop.

people need to stop calling this rng, its not. Random means - well - random. These are not random they are weighted which completely destroys the idea that it is.

We have all see that melee magic weapons and stamina staffs drop at a much much higher rate than magic staffs and stamina melee weapons.

also the premier set in a dungeon and trial always seem to have a much lower drop rate.

What they need to do is make things actually - random and remove all the useless stamina staffs and melee magic weapons from the game.

March of sacrifices - the blood moon set does not drop a bow because bow does not process the buff. So they obviously do things like that even though a blood moon bow is needed if you dont have mael bow.

So please, its not random, its weighted drops.

This is all speculation without any proof. It's RNG. I've gotten the Fire Staff dozens of times on so many different characters.

Joy_Division · February 10

You want get an inferno staff, though you will loot a vareity of daggers, ice staves, shields, and mauls.

Kadoin · February 10

Look for a burning spell weave sword instead, worked for me!

ccfeeling · February 10

I play coa for 4 years, no drop.

Its alright, because I don't que coa anymore.

Chaos2088 · February 10

It does drop, may the rng gods be with you.......or that rng daedric prince someone made up......looking at you @Saucy_Jack