‘Mythic’ gear

Tommy_The_Gun · January 2020

I think it is unnecessary.
It is power creep.

They are in the middle of re-balancing the whole game balance eco-system. So if they all of the sudden add new variables (Ultra powerful 1pc set that is so strong, you only can have 1 equipped) it will ruin their efforts to balance stuff out.

For example, during presentation, they mentioned a Ring that will double your movement speed, and if you are not in combat, you will be moving even faster. This CAN NOT end well in Cyro and competitive PvP, Battlegrounds, or even PvE end-game speed runs etc.

If it will be too strong (and they mentioned it will be account bound, so no trading) - it will be a P2W as access to it will be locked behind chapter.

bulcke10 · January 2020

Is the mystic gear a extra gear slot? Or it replace another 5piece or 2 piece bonus?

MJallday · January 2020

I’m already thinking about how I could misuse it

30% speed increase in cyrodill anyone?

Seraphayel · January 2020

I doubt there will be class specific Mythic items. I expect them to be exactly like Arena weapons with special buffs to kinds of combat everyone has access too (maybe like Light and Heavy attacks restore both resources etc.).

Chaos2088 · January 2020

If I get a new body slot for it then great! Don’t like the idea of having to farm gear around a belt or head piece etc....

Faulgor · January 2020

What's baffling to me is that they'd add a new source of bonuses before they finish the rework of the CP system.

Or is that just never going to happen?

Aznarb · January 2020

danara wrote: »

Eliahnus wrote: »

Karmanorway wrote: »

Well then i hope they add an extra slot for this item, or its the end of having 2 sets and monster set...

I think it's more the contrary : if there is no additional slot, the new items will never be used - or only in very specific conditions - nobody will give up there monster set or 5-set bonus.

But what about monster? As a PVE healer i feel like mine is useless in most of the case...

Bogdan is overhealing (in most of the case, not because of the heal output which is fine, but because people do not take any damage or get one shoted), Symphony of blade cant proc enough to be good (in trial) and earthgore is just bad in pve

100% agree.
Monster healng set are useless in most situation.
Only Symph is great in 4man, in raid everything suck.

LukosCreyden · January 2020

I am very intrigued by this system. One the one hand; it could lead to some interesting and unique builds. On the other hand; "unique" could come at the cost of build-effectiveness, as you have to sacrifice a 5-piece or monster bonus to get it.

I really hope this system works out, as it does sound really good on paper.

Royaji · January 2020

I really hope all those mythic items will end up in the "for (e)RP only" pile.

Having to do Psijic grind on top of vMA RNG for BiS gear is not going to be fun.

gepe87 · January 2020

They wont be too strong because people will scream PTW.

Just more junk.

FrancisCrawford · January 2020

I presume that the jewelry item they described was NOT called "Ring of Blinding Speed"?

FrancisCrawford · January 2020

Anyhow, we may come to regret deconning head and shoulder pieces of 5-piece sets we run.

Mitrenga · January 2020

Single piece monster set.

L_Nici · January 2020

Well from what they said in the stream there is one that doubles your movement speed outside of combat and rises it 50% in combat, for PvP that will be absolutely broken.

Flaminir · January 2020

L_Nici wrote: »

Well from what they said in the stream there is one that doubles your movement speed outside of combat and rises it 50% in combat, for PvP that will be absolutely broken.

Imagine that in battlegrounds!

In several of the game types an extra 50% speed boost is basically an 'I win' button.

xxthir13enxx · January 2020

Yup...pretty much what I expected from the announcement...

Release Broken Concept...Spend 6 months fixing it to make it useless

Wifeaggro13 · January 2020

It's a feeble attempt at vertical progession they should not do this until they re do CP. If they would have designed the game from the beginning with some logical concepts . Instead they gave into casual care bears that wanted a level playing field .so they could get everything with out having to put effort or skill towards the game.now we have a game with very little retention and swathes of new players churning through the game world.

Rukia541 · January 2020

Nyladreas wrote: »

I love how noones discussing the fact that in order to have mythica you'll have to give up either a 5 set bonus, monster set bonus or arena weapon set bonus.

Another useless gear system lol. Unless... They actually make them insanely stronger to compensate.

Yeah it sounds really interesting but also probably horrible in practice. I mean who is gonna give up a 5pc unless the combat version of mythic items are extremely op. Its just gonna be used as utility / messing around in overland. Meh.

zaria · January 2020

Karmanorway wrote: »

Well then i hope they add an extra slot for this item, or its the end of having 2 sets and monster set...

Tail armor

Realistically I guess 5+3+2+1 leaving one extra item.
Or if the mystic item is an helmet or shoulder 5+5+1+1

zvavi · January 2020

zaria wrote: »

Karmanorway wrote: »

Well then i hope they add an extra slot for this item, or its the end of having 2 sets and monster set...

Tail armor
Realistically I guess 5+3+2+1 leaving one extra item.
Or if the mystic item is an helmet or shoulder 5+5+1+1

U know that u can use mythic anywhere and just complete one of the 5 pieces with a shoulder piece right?

Joosef_Kivikilpi · January 2020

5cript wrote: »

The way I understood it, they're like arena weaps, but from casual content and not just weaps: 1 piece powerful items.

Might allow to trade a 5 piece set bonus for a different effect.
But what I wonder: how long do I have to grind to get the one I want? 5, 10, 20, 100 hours?

Exactly my thought. I hope they just allow an Antiquity Artifact separate slot. Having to shuffle around great builds just to try and compensate something super minor and not used too often doesn't sound fun. It sounds tiresome. Something that adds to the gameplay and journey experience in tandem with the sets/builds I've crafted and polished?? Take my money if you do it that way.

technohic · January 2020

I find it odd that the one they mentioned adds speed after they nerfed swift due to all the issues it caused. TBH; they should have reduced the speed cap as it has amazing defense built in just due to server location sync issues.

And the item that restores magicka when you block hopefully is a shield so you dont have frost staff, permablockers.

ArzyeL · January 2020

I love the idea of Mythic items. They will have to be balanced properly but i think they will add some flavor to builds.

ZonasArch · January 2020

technohic wrote: »

I find it odd that the one they mentioned adds speed after they nerfed swift due to all the issues it caused. TBH; they should have reduced the speed cap as it has amazing defense built in just due to server location sync issues.

And the item that restores magicka when you block hopefully is a shield so you dont have frost staff, permablockers.

It's a chest piece, according to Rich. And if I had to guess, they'll make sure what you said don't happen

cheifsoap · January 2020

gepe87 wrote: »

They wont be too strong because people will scream PTW.

Just more junk.

Except people aren't paying for it?

karekiz · January 2020

I honestly think its targeted at a casual crowd.

For raids, they need to sell power in the form of 5 set bonuses.
For dungeons, they need to sell power in the form of monster sets.
For Arena, they need to sell power in the form of weapons. This one has the most variance though as it upgrades a specific ability.

Overland gear in most releases are 90% ignored <The most used overland set in endgame still comes from the base game at least for Mag PvE>. So they are tossing a coin at overland gear quality with its own verison of a Monster set or Arena style set bonus.

TequilaFire · January 2020

Joy_Division wrote: »

I think PvPers will whine they are over-performing, get ZoS to nerf them, and ruin an interesting addition to the game.

You have been kind of sour lately.
Have a beer!

karekiz · January 2020

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I think it is unnecessary.
It is power creep.

They are in the middle of re-balancing the whole game balance eco-system. So if they all of the sudden add new variables (Ultra powerful 1pc set that is so strong, you only can have 1 equipped) it will ruin their efforts to balance stuff out.

For example, during presentation, they mentioned a Ring that will double your movement speed, and if you are not in combat, you will be moving even faster. This CAN NOT end well in Cyro and competitive PvP, Battlegrounds, or even PvE end-game speed runs etc.

If it will be too strong (and they mentioned it will be account bound, so no trading) - it will be a P2W as access to it will be locked behind chapter.

I think its balanced.

I mean.

You can't have Double run speed out of combat when the game never lets you leave combat.

CaffeinatedMayhem · January 2020

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

So what do people think of the mythic gear idea?
I think it would be great, adding new combat styles. But, it might be really grindy to get the item you want.
It depends on how you obtain them.
But I think they will be like arena weapons, ( and armour ) but they will have to be careful to not make them op. I’m waiting to see how strong they are.

Probably already been said but Mythic gear has the potential to be extremely unbalanced, but... it could also end up being useless.

I do not see ZOS adding another slot of Mythics, so to use one would require breaking 5/5/2. Is that 1 piece of gear worth a 5 piece bonus? Remains to be seen.

virtus753 · January 2020

cheifsoap wrote: »

gepe87 wrote: »

They wont be too strong because people will scream PTW.

Just more junk.

Except people aren't paying for it?

They will have to if they want it - it’s part of Greymoor, not the free Update 26.

That’s why I think they won’t ever add a new slot for mythic gear (aside from having mentioned extant pieces already). If non-Greymoor players can only run 12 pieces but chapter owners can now use 13, that’s terribly lopsided in favor of the chapter owners, much more so than access to Lokkestiiz or False God or other Chapter/DLC gear. Paid content has only enabled access to different gear/skills, not extra gear/skill slots.