So with it all anounced what are your thoughts?

Thevampirenight · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

No 1h and rune/spell. Nothing for me in here.

Well maybe next year or later in the year.

I was hoping for a werebear skilllne but knew we were not likely goinng to get that. At least we will be getting better vampires now.

Fischblut · January 2020

Meh could be better.

I was very hyped, but after the stream I am... very unsure

It was extremely pleasant surprise to see Death Hounds, both pet and mount

They look like a mix of Skinned Hound and Death Hound

It was first time I was going to pre-order CE right at that moment. But when I opened the Steam store and saw the price of upgrades, I changed my mind... :'( Even simple pre-order is very expencive (and I only like the Thane costume from it, nothing else). Elsweyr's CE pre-order costed much less than non-CE Graymoor

Unfortunately, waiting a year or something for a discount is unlikely option for me, so I will wait for the chapter PTS - to see the patch notes, content, Death Hounds (will they be based on sabre cat model, or wolf?). Then I will decide if non-CE is worth buying. In that case, I hope we will get black/gray recolors of Death Hounds later.

redgreensunset · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

Choo, choo, hype train leaving the station.

Though I've lways felt that Skyrim was way overhyped compared to its qualities this has me interested. Rivenspire is easily my favorite zone story in the base game and more on that kind has me interested. Adding game stuff that isn't more boring combat related things such as a non-combat skill line too has me curious, whether it will be done well remains to be seen.

I admit I may have yelled when we saw Lyris again though I knew she was pretty much a granted. And it looks like we're getting some Reachmen stuff too, my very favorite, creepy bad guys. Futher it looks like we might get a more interesting take on Blackreach than the stale, more dwemer and falmer.

So overall I'm far more hyped than I thought I would be.

wolf486 · January 2020

Meh could be better.

I just have no interest in these "year-long adventure" expansions. Plus, I've been playing more Skyrim lately instead of ESO so I don't need anymore Skyrim content in ESO.

LukosCreyden · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

I am personally excited for the vampire overhaul; sounds more like an actual build decision now, rather than just "did it for a couple passives".

I also very much like the sound of the antiquities system. Could be a fun new type of content, if done well.

However, the lack of a new, universal skill line is understandably disappointing to many people. I myself was hoping for Reach Magic or a new weapon skill line. However, we still do not know how in-depth the vampire overhaul is, as it sounds like they may have ADDED a fair amount of stuff to them. (Maybe our Werewolf brethren will receive similar treatment soon?)
It ahould also be remembered that the antiquities system will be including a whole NEW type of equipment. Equipment that could potentially be quite build-defining.

It is honestly hard to accurately gauge the value of the new systems until we have more info. For now though, I shall remain tentatively hyped.

FR0STDEE · January 2020

I'm not to happy with it.

I don't remember the werewolf skill line that was reworked being attached to the main content for the year. Was that not done the same year as the psyjic skill line? so is zos saying that if we won't to try a new skill line then we are forced to play as a vampire? Might be to early to tell but at this stage my money is staying in my wallet.

sekou_trayvond · January 2020

Meh could be better.

Nice to have Lyris (and the amazing Jennifer Hale) back, Black Reach and Antiquities COULD be neato, but otherwise? Very, very meh.

No new game systems. No new class. On the disappointed side of 'meh' personally.

esotoon · January 2020

Meh could be better.

FR0STDEE wrote: »

I don't remember the werewolf skill line that was reworked being attached to the main content for the year. Was that not done the same year as the psyjic skill line? so is zos saying that if we won't to try a new skill line then we are forced to play as a vampire? Might be to early to tell but at this stage my money is staying in my wallet.

It's a reworking of the existing Skill Line. The way they are marketing things, it sounds like it is part of the new Chapter, but it isn't. It is available to all players (Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57529) . There is no 'new skill line' as such, and you don't need it to play the new content.

Nordic__Knights · January 2020

Other

I see alot of good but it really comes down to fixes being done right or its all for nothing as the games about completely unplayable in pvp 90% of the time when fighting and tho new content will be added it will only hold me over for an day or two before its done then whats there to do talk in guild chat like i have been my guildmates are getting to find it old that we cant play the GAME

resdayn00 · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

Hyped, but not because of Skyrim.

Part of me is happy because Skyrim fanboys can finally shut up.

The new content actually looks promising. As a player who had been away for over a year, the new Antiquities system might actually convince me to try the game once more. The story content looks interesting as well, but again, not because of Skyrim, but the darker theme.

I hope we’re not getting bland simple-minded nords again. It’s the most boring race in the lore imo.

I wonder what’s happening to combat changes and if Cyrodiil is getting anything new. At least 1 new siege weapon confirmed, wonder what else is there for PvP.

It looks like we’re getting more than enough PvE content, so that part of the playerbase can also be happy.

Housing is also constantly being improved with new furniture. But I really hope that with the increased performance they might also take a look at increasing furniture limits. Too much furniture content and our houses can’t keep up due to numbers.

Iarao · January 2020

Meh could be better.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Not my thing. Not buying it. Sucks big time that I have to download gigs that I really can't afford (literally) for crap I won't play.

you have to dl again cuz they say base game will function better, too. that is what you will get for the gigs you pay for.

Rex-Umbra · January 2020

Meh could be better.

Not adding bard skill line or class basicly means never as this was the perfect opportunity. More importantly no one hand and rune. Magic melee will be gimp forever.

Vampire ReVamp sounds good but that is QOL. Artifacts is awesome as i love more sand in the sandbox.

Jaimeh · January 2020

Other

I'm excited for all the RP: I loved the Rivenspire story, and I like the idea of dark vampire overlord enemies, plus it will be great to have a reunion with Lyris, and explore more mountain-y, snow-y areas. Not to mention the much needed performance fixes, that this year will supposedly adress. However, when you compare this to previous chapters, there's nothing really exciting to look forward to; elsweyr had the necromancer, summerset had jewellery crafting and the psijic line, so greymoor seems a bit lackluster in comparison. There's the new antiquities feature, but for those who like combat-based gameplay, it will not be the most exciting thing. I'm looking forward to how these mythic items will feature in build variety though. Since we don't have a lot of details about the chapter yet, I will refrain opinion, but I do hope the fact that housing wasn't mentioned was an oversight in the rhythm of the conversation and not an actual indication of how housing will be treated within this year-long story.

Iarao · January 2020

Meh could be better.

AnonomissX wrote: »

Well, do I get it with my ESO subscription? Then good!

I was thinking...hmmm

1) Perhaps the big re-download will fix a few things, not getting too excited (Cyrodiil / Disconnectville I'm looking at YOU)
2) More costumes I can buy from the store (Always looking for a nice dress or good looking pant suit for my girl)
3) More motifs to get through exploring so I can sell the new hotness
4) More places to explore and farm for mats
3) More Guild Trader spots

Ok!

no you dont get it with your sub. that is dlc. this is a chapter you will need to pay for. and yeah i agree with others who say zos is now making us pay full price for half chapters. basically doubling the cost of what used to be chapters in this game. iirc, used to bre 1 chapter release a yr and then a couple/few dlc.

Iarao · January 2020

Meh could be better.

Aptonoth wrote: »

All the new mounts look bad even the collectors edition one. Hopefully gloomspore crates are not a bust.

crates are always a bust for me. i never buy them. i can make better food and pots than that.

Iarao · January 2020

Meh could be better.

Imryll wrote: »

Well, I've yet to make a necromancer because dark isn't really my thing, so not thrilled with vamp focus. Antiquities could be fun, although WoW certainly managed to make archaeology boring. I guess I'm trying to keep an open mind. Maybe I'll buy it, maybe I won't.

dark isnt my thing either, but i made a necro cuz they are fun to play.

Poinki · January 2020

I'm not to happy with it.

Meh..i dont like Vampires. Its not a Hype 4 me, sorry.
I like Skyrim, i like Nords, but Vampire Hype this Year isnt mine. Looking up to a better performance and co

Iarao · January 2020

Meh could be better.

SirLeeMinion wrote: »

In the past, I've been excited about the new material, but gradually lost that warm glow as the content got bundled with too many ill-considered nerfs. This time, the content itself is unappealing. We just did necromancers, now it's vampires... maybe if I were in one of those dark-themed RP guilds that advertise in zone chat.

Of course, the combat team will likely buff the heck out of vamps followed by nerfing them to oblivion. Block will likely be bugged for the next year once they fix it. I can only shudder to think what spreadsheeting proc sets will look like...

Anyhow, the trailer was nice, but yeah, will be saving my money for Starbase or New World.

yah i will be waiting for a sale, i think. i have plenty of toons that need to do base game content.

Kaxxi · January 2020

I'm not to happy with it.

good luck eso, nothing is special except client size. 2020 will be difficult year for eso.

Ashnarug · January 2020

I wonder if Zenimax will revamp all Vestige (main storyline) quests to show Lyris's true size !!!

Elsonso · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

MattT1988 wrote: »

So overall, at this stage I won’t be getting it until we learn more about the nuts and bolts of the content. It just doesn’t seem worth the price tag at the moment.

I already pre-ordered it.

Once, I purchased a Steam game that was positively reviewed, and it turned out that I didn't really care for the game. I am sure it was a great game for the people who reviewed it, and it sounded like it would be for me, but it was not. For my money, I have played it just a couple times. These are the risks that one takes when purchasing any game these days. It is why I never buy Steam games until they are at least 50% off.

I already know I like ESO. I like zone content. I like quests. Greymoor has both of those, plus more. Aside from a bone-headed combat balance decision, there is little chance the ZOS will turn Greymoor into a vile cesspool of wasted money. Even Summerset was not a vile cesspool of wasted money, so I think my odds are good.

For me, Greymoor is a simple decision. I want the zone. I want the quests. I want the story. I want Indiana Jones. If I intend to play in 2020, I intend to buy it. I am pretty sure I will be in that content for dozens of hours this year. I see it as potentially better than Elsweyr, and far more interesting than Summerset.

wolf486 wrote: »

I just have no interest in these "year-long adventure" expansions. Plus, I've been playing more Skyrim lately instead of ESO so I don't need anymore Skyrim content in ESO.

I see this as likely the reason that the streams did not gather tons of people. Skyrim is an active game, at the moment, an observation that was implied during the ESO stream. There is an intersection between ESO players and TES 5 players, but it is not 1:1. Some people just don't like the multi-player environment, or just like the Skyrim that BGS did better than the one that ZOS is likely to do.

I played TES 5 during 2019, and it was a lot more boring than I remember. I had to scour Nexus for new content mods. And companion mods. Many companion mods. I think that ESO pretty much ruined that game for me, but I like the area, and want to see what ZOS has to say about it.

Shadow_Akula · January 2020

Meh could be better.

Could be better.

I mean a new story and new stuff like artifacts are cool. The enemies we will face will be cool, the area chosen will be a nice familiar area - but not too familiar I hope. Nice to see that a few characters from old storylines will be returning.

But Rich then had to say Dungeons will be tied closer to the storyline. Sorry but don’t like dungeons. Don’t want to be forced to play them for the zone storyline background or whatever they do to tie it closer to the main storyline of the year. “But your not forced” well I am if it ties to the rest of the years storyline, Could do the zone quests and end up missing bits of background due to not doing the stupid dungeons.

Also anyone else get a good laugh when they talked about reducing game size to reduce load screens and stuff - best joke ever told 😂 (why else would they say they’ll do this now when they haven’t bothered the past 5 years)

S.A.96

Dusk_Coven · January 2020

I'm not to happy with it.

They said during the class changes that they are looking at "play patterns" but they haven't at all.
If they did they'd implement solo dungeons to let players enjoy the story. Because the play pattern is for pugs to just rush through, and exploit what they can to avoid what they can just to get the undaunted reward or daily random reward.

Instead they spent their time implementing a treasure hunt which I have a bad feeling will end up being a tedious minigame like SWTOR's seeker droid for RNG chance of rubbish reward. Otherwise people will be done in a week with their collectables that ZOS will have to balance -- as if they don't have enough combat balance issues already.

Old games need not just engine improvements (which is a good move on their part) but quality of life improvements and alt support.

Seraphayel · January 2020

Meh could be better.

Kittytravel wrote: »

Loves_guars wrote: »

Antiquities sound exciting but there should be a new skill line or class or major element to justify the "chapter" tag and 40 dollars cost.

They literally said in the stream two new skill lines, whether or not they are including Vampire as a "new" skill line is still unknown but that still means they added at least one new skill line. Which according to you justifies the price tag.

The two new skill lines belong to the new fluff feature called Antiquities. They are not for combat.

Vampire gets reworked but that doesn’t count as a brand new skill line either.

When people talk about skill lines they expect something to affect their gameplay in PvE or PvP combat, the two coming in Greymoor are not - it was explicitly stated.

BaiterOfZergs · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm not convinced that the minor features Greymoor offers is worth paying the same price as I did for Morrowind and Elsweyr. I'm kinda questioning what sort of feedback ZOS got on that customer survey they sent out that resulted in the same price for less gameplay-changing content.

I mean Elsweyr was the worst chapter out of them all, only really offered a new class. This chapter has new crafting for pvp, treasure hunting, mythic gear, relook at vamp line etc. and I’m sure there will be more base game additions not mentioned yet.

Katahdin · January 2020

Overall not sure

New map and environments look good so far

Seraphayel · January 2020

Meh could be better.

BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm not convinced that the minor features Greymoor offers is worth paying the same price as I did for Morrowind and Elsweyr. I'm kinda questioning what sort of feedback ZOS got on that customer survey they sent out that resulted in the same price for less gameplay-changing content.

I mean Elsweyr was the worst chapter out of them all, only really offered a new class. This chapter has new crafting for pvp, treasure hunting, mythic gear, relook at vamp line etc. and I’m sure there will be more base game additions not mentioned yet.

You said it, base game additions. They come for free. Crafting for PvP, revamped Vampire etc. are base game updates.

The Chapter only offers you Antiquities as a new system and compared to an entirely new class that seems quite... lackluster.

By the way for me Elsweyr was the most fun Chapter as I enjoyed its story more than the one in Morrowind or Summerset. On the feature side it was the worst though.

What bugs me the most is that they stick to their scheme of making every Chapter zone identical - always the same amount of delves, dungeons, world bosses and slightly tweaked dolmens. That’s what annoys me the most, it’s so uninspired.

SeaGtGruff · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

I took an afternoon nap* and ended up sleeping through the stream, so I missed everything and must be content to read about it in the forum. I was going to vote for "I'm fine with it," because I'm not into vampires that much, but I think it will be great fun to be able to visit Solitude and Blackreach during the time of ESO.

*This is where all you young whippersnappers chime in with "OK, boomer!"

BaiterOfZergs · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

Seraphayel wrote: »

BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm not convinced that the minor features Greymoor offers is worth paying the same price as I did for Morrowind and Elsweyr. I'm kinda questioning what sort of feedback ZOS got on that customer survey they sent out that resulted in the same price for less gameplay-changing content.

I mean Elsweyr was the worst chapter out of them all, only really offered a new class. This chapter has new crafting for pvp, treasure hunting, mythic gear, relook at vamp line etc. and I’m sure there will be more base game additions not mentioned yet.

You said it, base game additions. They come for free. Crafting for PvP, revamped Vampire etc. are base game updates.

The Chapter only offers you Antiquities as a new system and compared to an entirely new class that seems quite... lackluster.

By the way for me Elsweyr was the most fun Chapter as I enjoyed its story more than the one in Morrowind or Summerset. On the feature side it was the worst though.

What bugs me the most is that they stick to their scheme of making every Chapter zone identical - always the same amount of delves, dungeons, world bosses and slightly tweaked dolmens. That’s what annoys me the most, it’s so uninspired.

Antiquities seems like it can be really game changing if mythic gear is part of the system, which from my impression it is.

While I always wanted to see Elsweyr what they offered didn’t make it worth it in my opinion. Morrowind was probably the best, since it set the example for how content should be released, followed by Summerset. The new chapter seems interesting because it’s darker, touches on vampire lore and will have blackreach.

Think the uninspiring aspect is just pve content in general these days, same for most multiplayer content. However, the setup looks like it’ll feel different this time because of Blackreach.

PrimusNephilim · January 2020

Hyped, Excited for whats coming.

I'm hyped, a full year on Nords and Skyrim, mythic gear, Vampires getting an revamp and the Antiquities, yea.....this is going to be good. I had a feeling Lyris Titanborn was going to return and I'm still certain we haven't seem the last of Abnur Tharn...2021?

I was hoping they would have more updates/attention towards PvP and Cyrodiil but lets hope the proposed changes improves performance.

With that said, Bravo Bethesda/ZOS, I'll see you in Skyrim

~ Cheers