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Bosmer stamsorc with overload
this about sums it up:

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@TBois
Problem is that most gameplay is passive based not active based. Passives are much easier for newer/casual players to use. Thats why the dot meta took off, it was simply easier and did roughly the same amount of damage as any active build that required work and brainpower. Damage isnt the only thing too, look at tanking, pretty much anyone now can become tanky by slotting bloodspawn and popping s&b ult or resto ult over and over. Only real active based gameplay left in the game is with a true shield stacking mag sorc.(mostly patched out from the last changes to wards that nobody asked for)

4 shield magsorc
-damage requires timing, but with proper skill can compete with nearly anything
-tanking requires knowledge of what ward needs to be active to counter what, or when to not counter something
-movement means cutting into your source of tankiness and healing
-healing requires using shield stacking methods to protect your healing ward. (back to a tank rotation essentially)

Think of a magplar
- damage requires applying dots then into jabs rotation
- tanking requires holding block and waiting to press HTD
- movement consists of elusive mist
- healing consists of putting down a purify that people can automatically purify themselves, and pressing HTD

Also note, I dont really consider something like an elusive mist block templar a very active based role

@Gatdangmayne
Ehh im not really sick of them, it is more of how easy and simple accomplishing the same result is. There are plenty more examples, for instance it is the same reason against proc sets (sloads, vipers, valkyn, selene, etc.)

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If we took a new player and a vet player
Imagine giving both players simple builds that rely on just plain stats with nothing special to them (hundings + shackle)
-lets say the result is the new player can perform 5k dps, where he is making poor use of the 5 piece sets
-the vet player actively making use of these mechanics pulls off lets say 40k dps, fully utilizing the 5 pieces to the maximum

now throw proc sets like sloads, vipers, and such on them
-the new player gains the use of those 5 pieces, suddenly you will see his damage rises up to the 10-15k range
-the vet player might possibly lose total damage and drop to 35-40k, but the thing is he can be sloppy with his mechanics
both players can make use of the guaranteed passive damage with little or no effort.
(yes there is instances where people make insane uses of proc sets, I can remember several builds on different classes killing players without counter play)

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Same thing when it comes to dots
dots act the same way proc sets do, except they require you to think about applying them (clicking one button) to gain guaranteed damage.
Now someone might argue: but cant a player click one button to use any direct damage like surprise attack, yes
but the thing is that
1. the damage standard for dots is higher, even though they require less skill and game knowledge
2. Dots recalculate certain buffs each tick (every 0.5 sec, I believe even with 2 sec tick dots [possible cause of lag])
3. dot damage once applied has no counter play other than hoping there is an angel with purge nearby (stam toons be damned)

now, why this is so bad is because someone utilizing direct builds like surprise attack must maintain buffs while fighting and the damage is reflected by how well this player can play the game and set up his build. A player utilizing dots is allowed to be lazy with bar space and game play, but can still gain the benefits of buffs (example: try applying a dot on one bar, then swap to a bar with a different weapon trait, you will see the damage change.) This is where placement doesn't matter, yet he achieves the same outcome as the player that had to slot his main source of active damage on a certain bar to gain the benefits.

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On the topic of the hybrids, yes it is possible to run a hybrid, but you wont be able to achieve what a standard mag/stam toon would be able to. Hybrids used to be more popular before, and this was due to abilities scaling differently. Then there are the buff hoops you need to jump through for instance on a stamsorc to use overload you need to gain access to spell pen, otherwise your overload will hit as hard as any spammable.

The next hoop that you need to deal with is resource drains and bugs present in the game. Say some nerd uses resource drain poisons on you, well atleast your regen for that one stat you heavily rely on will get you back to a manageable range to stall. On a hybrid you will burn both your resources down like before, but now they both will take longer to get back to a manageable state. Then comes the bugs, would take way too long to explain, but currently in cp siphoner causes funny sustain losses in some scenarios even with only 1 cp to it. Another bug is getting double charged for some skills (you will recognize this easier on high ability costs like streak) you go from being afloat to all of a sudden "I feel like i'm suffocating even though the fight didn't change"

But in some cases slight hybridization can work like mag toons grabbing DB or stamsorcs using Overload

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If you hate overload sorcs, go try overload and see if you can count how many bugs it has. Not to mention how clunky it feels to enter and exit. If you looked at what buffs affect overload each patch you might laugh (on pts imbue weapon didnt work with it, now on live it does). Dont even bother trying to test what cp it uses too, I swear those change daily.

Im currently working on bug testing a few strange things happening with overload that make its heavy attack worse for the caster than the receiver to use. (probs post in the bugs forum soon)

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