Lets talk theorycrafting - lemme hear about your most successful off-meta builds!

Xvorg

Gatdangmayne wrote: »

@Iskiab

Sorry uesp is a pain to work with on my phone, ill see if i can put it in when i get home later today though.

I've got it all pretty well memorized though, besides my exact cp which is still a work in progress anyway, and i did swap over to medium when i crafted my NMA destro, just using 5m/2h because i goofed on my crafting and was too lazy to swap just for the 5/1/1 lol.

There's basically two ways ive been running it: Orc, sugar skulls, steed(might try out the crit % mundus though). NMA lightning sharpened with restore mag, potentates infused bow with berserker enchant.

Jewelry is one part i swap, it's either 3x NMA infused wpn damage, or 2x NMA infused wpn dmg+potentate neck arcane with wpn dmg. If i had made the NMA for this specifically i probably would have gone with arcane.

Anyway, so besides the one jewelry everything is the same, except one monster piece is replaced with a NMA piece.

I went with all max mag glyphs, and all impen so i could deal with only 75 in the first red tree, though i can see the merit of infused head/chest/waist with tri stats and using just mag/health food.

If using 3 pc potentates, 1 pc domi is the obvious choice IMO.

Also i feel its worth mentioning i struggled deciding on weapons. I knew i wanted to have either a lightning or resto, either would have also worked for the backbar. If i had a resto i probably would've went DW NMA swords front or a 2h sword. After trying what I've got, i actually think a NMA bow would've been really awesome frontbar with either resto or destro back.

I decided on lightning for obvious sorc reasons, and bow literally only for the roll dodge passive and ranged stam regen.

So anyway, this is the gear i have now:

Head: Heavy, NMA/Monster
Chest: Heavy, Pelinals
Shoulders: Medium, Domihaus/Monster
Hands: Medium, Pelinals
Waist: Medium, Pelinals
Legs: Medium, Pelinals
Feet: Medium, Pelinals
Neck: Arcane Potentates/Infused NMA
Rings: Infused NMAx2


Skills are still a work in progress, I'm super rusty as a "mag" sorc and a better sorc could do better sure, also psijic and mages would be helpful but alas i have neither on this alt. That being said, the skill bars i was using last were:

Frontbar destro: Hurricane (large aoe, higher wpn crit=more surge heals), crit surge, hardened ward (empowered maybe better), wrath aoe version, frag/impulse, dawnbreaker of smiting/negate/EoTS

Backbar bow: Vigor, dark deal, bound daggers(might go aegis), BoL(might go streak idk yet, flex, been using reviving barrier (~140 cost w potentates) or dawnbreaker

As far as cp, i dumped into shields red tree to the tune of 17%-20% a few into heals taken and player light/heavy damage, standardish besides that. I have 75/120/75 IIRC.

Green trees i have around 18% break free, a few in sprint. Around 20% roll dodge, around 9% block. 12% heavy restore, and then health/mag/stam all at i believe 7%-9%.

Blue, i have 75/120/75 again. Roughly 7% mag damage, maybe a few into heals, the rest in pen. 20%ish direct, then slightly more into staff attacks than physical weapon attacks but some in both. Lastly, around 1000 phys pen, 12-15% dot, 5%-6% phys dmg, the rest into stam crit-since vigor is my main heal, and hopefully dark conversion (stam for mag) also scales but idk.

Super fast, hits hard, nobody knows wtf im doing when i bow light attack spam into a bound dagger proc into streak into impulse spam dawnbreaker. A LOT of people either literally stopped attacking to watch and see wtf i was doing, and plenty more seemed to fatally underestimate the amount of damage and survivability i have lmao.

When i get more playtime and fine tune it a little more i plan on making a stand alone post for this build and a proper video showing gameplay and whatnot. I save a ton of my playtime though, so anecdotally i was hitting people for:

Hurricane: 300-1200 per tick
Bound daggers: 400-1k per tick
Impulse: 2.5-6k
Frag: 5-9k
Wrath: 4-7k
Dawnbreaker: 4-10k, 2-3k dot ticks
EoTS:3.5-6k per tick

As far as mist form, it could definitely work- but personally if i was going to use mist i think i would've went with NMA 2h frontbar and either an infused or defending lightning or resto staff, to make use of the awesome synergy between rally and mist, so i would lose vigor for rally and probably go with heavy armor for a vamp.

Side note, I'm confident this build would work great on nightblade, and probably on any class depending on the exact setup.


Happy to answer any other questions or listen to suggestions though- real theorycrafters are hard to find lol.

Interesting
I'm doing something similar on a medium armor magplar using pelinals and briarheart, considering briarheart procs for any crit (no mater if it's mag or stam). Anyway it's still a work in progress


Couple of things on your build:

1- What kind of destro are you using? Shock used to increase AoE in all AoEs, no matter if it's mag or stam, but IDK if that was changed (which would help you with hurricane) but you will miss the extra pen.
2- Despite that, I would suggesst you go 2H or DW sword since the dmg increase is for both, AoE and ST skills. With 2H you will solve the gap closer problem and you can add the good old combo hard cast frags + crit charge (both hit at the same time)

Some years ago, before Pelinals came out, I had a hybrid sorc that used WoF and WMK. It was super fun and had a lot of potential, but then ZoS nerfed CP resource recovery and the build died. Then I've been trying another sorc hybrid using pelinal's, but their 2-4 bonus are quite bad. If Pelinal's had similar bonuses to Shacklebreaker, it could be a great set (maybe changing wpn or spell dmg for wpn and spell crit)

Iskiab

Xvorg wrote: »

Gatdangmayne wrote: »

@Iskiab

Sorry uesp is a pain to work with on my phone, ill see if i can put it in when i get home later today though.

I've got it all pretty well memorized though, besides my exact cp which is still a work in progress anyway, and i did swap over to medium when i crafted my NMA destro, just using 5m/2h because i goofed on my crafting and was too lazy to swap just for the 5/1/1 lol.

There's basically two ways ive been running it: Orc, sugar skulls, steed(might try out the crit % mundus though). NMA lightning sharpened with restore mag, potentates infused bow with berserker enchant.

Jewelry is one part i swap, it's either 3x NMA infused wpn damage, or 2x NMA infused wpn dmg+potentate neck arcane with wpn dmg. If i had made the NMA for this specifically i probably would have gone with arcane.

Anyway, so besides the one jewelry everything is the same, except one monster piece is replaced with a NMA piece.

I went with all max mag glyphs, and all impen so i could deal with only 75 in the first red tree, though i can see the merit of infused head/chest/waist with tri stats and using just mag/health food.

If using 3 pc potentates, 1 pc domi is the obvious choice IMO.

Also i feel its worth mentioning i struggled deciding on weapons. I knew i wanted to have either a lightning or resto, either would have also worked for the backbar. If i had a resto i probably would've went DW NMA swords front or a 2h sword. After trying what I've got, i actually think a NMA bow would've been really awesome frontbar with either resto or destro back.

I decided on lightning for obvious sorc reasons, and bow literally only for the roll dodge passive and ranged stam regen.

So anyway, this is the gear i have now:

Head: Heavy, NMA/Monster
Chest: Heavy, Pelinals
Shoulders: Medium, Domihaus/Monster
Hands: Medium, Pelinals
Waist: Medium, Pelinals
Legs: Medium, Pelinals
Feet: Medium, Pelinals
Neck: Arcane Potentates/Infused NMA
Rings: Infused NMAx2


Skills are still a work in progress, I'm super rusty as a "mag" sorc and a better sorc could do better sure, also psijic and mages would be helpful but alas i have neither on this alt. That being said, the skill bars i was using last were:

Frontbar destro: Hurricane (large aoe, higher wpn crit=more surge heals), crit surge, hardened ward (empowered maybe better), wrath aoe version, frag/impulse, dawnbreaker of smiting/negate/EoTS

Backbar bow: Vigor, dark deal, bound daggers(might go aegis), BoL(might go streak idk yet, flex, been using reviving barrier (~140 cost w potentates) or dawnbreaker

As far as cp, i dumped into shields red tree to the tune of 17%-20% a few into heals taken and player light/heavy damage, standardish besides that. I have 75/120/75 IIRC.

Green trees i have around 18% break free, a few in sprint. Around 20% roll dodge, around 9% block. 12% heavy restore, and then health/mag/stam all at i believe 7%-9%.

Blue, i have 75/120/75 again. Roughly 7% mag damage, maybe a few into heals, the rest in pen. 20%ish direct, then slightly more into staff attacks than physical weapon attacks but some in both. Lastly, around 1000 phys pen, 12-15% dot, 5%-6% phys dmg, the rest into stam crit-since vigor is my main heal, and hopefully dark conversion (stam for mag) also scales but idk.

Super fast, hits hard, nobody knows wtf im doing when i bow light attack spam into a bound dagger proc into streak into impulse spam dawnbreaker. A LOT of people either literally stopped attacking to watch and see wtf i was doing, and plenty more seemed to fatally underestimate the amount of damage and survivability i have lmao.

When i get more playtime and fine tune it a little more i plan on making a stand alone post for this build and a proper video showing gameplay and whatnot. I save a ton of my playtime though, so anecdotally i was hitting people for:

Hurricane: 300-1200 per tick
Bound daggers: 400-1k per tick
Impulse: 2.5-6k
Frag: 5-9k
Wrath: 4-7k
Dawnbreaker: 4-10k, 2-3k dot ticks
EoTS:3.5-6k per tick

As far as mist form, it could definitely work- but personally if i was going to use mist i think i would've went with NMA 2h frontbar and either an infused or defending lightning or resto staff, to make use of the awesome synergy between rally and mist, so i would lose vigor for rally and probably go with heavy armor for a vamp.

Side note, I'm confident this build would work great on nightblade, and probably on any class depending on the exact setup.


Happy to answer any other questions or listen to suggestions though- real theorycrafters are hard to find lol.

Interesting
I'm doing something similar on a medium armor magplar using pelinals and briarheart, considering briarheart procs for any crit (no mater if it's mag or stam). Anyway it's still a work in progress


Couple of things on your build:

1- What kind of destro are you using? Shock used to increase AoE in all AoEs, no matter if it's mag or stam, but IDK if that was changed (which would help you with hurricane) but you will miss the extra pen.
2- Despite that, I would suggesst you go 2H or DW sword since the dmg increase is for both, AoE and ST skills. With 2H you will solve the gap closer problem and you can add the good old combo hard cast frags + crit charge (both hit at the same time)

Some years ago, before Pelinals came out, I had a hybrid sorc that used WoF and WMK. It was super fun and had a lot of potential, but then ZoS nerfed CP resource recovery and the build died. Then I've been trying another sorc hybrid using pelinal's, but their 2-4 bonus are quite bad. If Pelinal's had similar bonuses to Shacklebreaker, it could be a great set (maybe changing wpn or spell dmg for wpn and spell crit)

Pelinals isn’t bad, it’s not overloaded but sustain bonus’ just mean you don’t need sustain from other places. Treat pelinals as your sustain set.

Where I’ve always had difficulty is getting a decent mag and stam pool and penetration. Pelinals with 5m, 3x infused weapon damage glyphs, using 2H for onslaught is a good starting spot. You end up with more spell damage for mag abilities then 5L.

Gatdangmayne

Xvorg wrote: »

Interesting I'm doing something similar on a medium armor magplar using pelinals and briarheart, considering briarheart procs for any crit (no mater if it's mag or stam). Anyway it's still a work in progress


Couple of things on your build:

1- What kind of destro are you using? Shock used to increase AoE in all AoEs, no matter if it's mag or stam, but IDK if that was changed (which would help you with hurricane) but you will miss the extra pen.
2- Despite that, I would suggesst you go 2H or DW sword since the dmg increase is for both, AoE and ST skills. With 2H you will solve the gap closer problem and you can add the good old combo hard cast frags + crit charge (both hit at the same time)

Some years ago, before Pelinals came out, I had a hybrid sorc that used WoF and WMK. It was super fun and had a lot of potential, but then ZoS nerfed CP resource recovery and the build died. Then I've been trying another sorc hybrid using pelinal's, but their 2-4 bonus are quite bad. If Pelinal's had similar bonuses to Shacklebreaker, it could be a great set (maybe changing wpn or spell dmg for wpn and spell crit)

Hmm now you got me thinking about briarheart lol i guess i never realized it works on any crit, all gold jewelry bow and dw sittin in my bank xD

1. Lightning staff, sharp. I tried going with inferno/SnB but i gotta have a channelled staff heavy attack, so it was either lightning or resto.

When i first made my sorc, he was a high elf magsorc. I've always hated the petsorc play style, and didn't wanna do mages guild again, so i used dawnbreaker as my ult with a shock staff...slowly morphed to a race change for Stamsorc, and it seems ive come full circle.

Point being, i use dawnbreaker on my lightning staff as my main ult and yes it is increased. Highest i saw on an 810cp was 16k lol.

I didn't think about it helping hurricane though, ill have to test that out!

2. I have a few other sets (for example the previously mentioned briarheart, literally shackle everything mostly gold, etc) and this hard frag crit rush combo sounds hilarious lol.

Gapcloser isnt a problem at all though- medium armor, orc, steed mundus, hurricane, bow+dodge cp+sprint cp=fast af.

That being said, yeah if the build continues to perform well, ill likely expand my choice of weapons to include NMA inferno, 2h, and DW, along with a potentate resto, and possibly 2h.

Good point with aoe/st, although ironically a lot of sorc skills are actually both so its a bit of a wash. But having different weapons/skills for different situations is definitely something i tend to do.

Questions for you-
WoF=wall of flame? Wmk=?

As far as pelinals being weak, eh. I used to look at it that way, but after creating pvp dmg builds with other oft-overlooked sets, i gave it a shot and the stats are good enough for me(besides fine tuning).

It would be cool if it was max/rec/dmg of both though lol.

Gatdangmayne

Iskiab wrote: »

Where I’ve always had difficulty is getting a decent mag and stam pool and penetration. Pelinals with 5m, 3x infused weapon damage glyphs, using 2H for onslaught is a good starting spot. You end up with more spell damage for mag abilities then 5L.

I personally despise using onslaught, not really sure why its just clunky i guess.

I debated heavy v medium v light for a while, ultimately i think medium is def the way to go.

I lose 5k from light passives, but i normally run nirn staffs any light build.

So with sharp, I'm only down 2300 from light passives.

With NMA that brings me within 800 of light passives. i have more or less the same spell pen cp, only real sacrifice was spell crit dmg cp, and a bit of light/heavy staff damage.

Otherwise, it is 100% as hard hitting as any mag or stam sorc running their respective skills.

It's a legit working hybrid with very little drawbacks vs regular builds. I honestly feel as if with the orc speed, roll dodging and plenty of stam with the ranged stam regen, and dark conversion, oh and a huge damage shield even w/o 140 cost barrier ult- it's got quite an advantage over regular builds.

Joosef_Kivikilpi

ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »

There are some cool ideas in this thread! Thanks for sharing the different builds that you use folks

"We will now look into nerfing them!" ...

*sobs quietly in the corner*

Kinda a joke, but also always some truth in jokes.

I stopped posting builds I hand-crafted on forums and so forth for this reason - to keep it off the radar of getting nerfed. Lo and behold, the nerf hammer has come to even some far-fetched awesome and fun builds that made me fall in love with ESO all over again.

I'm looking at you, my Embershield Lightning Staff-Wielding Elementalist wearing Iceheart and Overwhelming Surge, where Embershield got ninja nerfed to only proc its super weak aoe dot defensive aura on "FULLY CHARGED HEAVY ATTACK" when it used to be as soon as you started channeling the Lightning Heavy attack and the AOE of the channel would hit multiple targets, almost immediately proccing the aura. But before that, it was the proc sets no longer being able to cause critical damage... which then made Iceheart way more difficult to proc since it was now missing Embershield synergy.

The change they made to Overwhelming Surge was really cool though for a set, to make it an AOE lightning storm that seeks out targets. Still wish it crit.

A lot of builds and sets go off of dealing critical damage. Wish Zenimax just updated proc sets to be able to deal critical damage, yet change the multiplier from 1.5x to a 0.0x so the proc sets can still crit and is calculated as a crit so it can synergize with so many wonderful sets they've put into the game, but then do no damage like how absurd it was during the Viper Sting/Velidreth/Widowmaker era.

Ahhh, if only I was a developer to be able to implement these good ideas

I believe in you ZOS. You've made an absolutely incredible game and story. Just please don't keep cutting the beauty out of what makes this game fun and enjoyable.

Xvorg

Gatdangmayne wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Interesting I'm doing something similar on a medium armor magplar using pelinals and briarheart, considering briarheart procs for any crit (no mater if it's mag or stam). Anyway it's still a work in progress


Couple of things on your build:

1- What kind of destro are you using? Shock used to increase AoE in all AoEs, no matter if it's mag or stam, but IDK if that was changed (which would help you with hurricane) but you will miss the extra pen.
2- Despite that, I would suggesst you go 2H or DW sword since the dmg increase is for both, AoE and ST skills. With 2H you will solve the gap closer problem and you can add the good old combo hard cast frags + crit charge (both hit at the same time)

Some years ago, before Pelinals came out, I had a hybrid sorc that used WoF and WMK. It was super fun and had a lot of potential, but then ZoS nerfed CP resource recovery and the build died. Then I've been trying another sorc hybrid using pelinal's, but their 2-4 bonus are quite bad. If Pelinal's had similar bonuses to Shacklebreaker, it could be a great set (maybe changing wpn or spell dmg for wpn and spell crit)

Hmm now you got me thinking about briarheart lol i guess i never realized it works on any crit, all gold jewelry bow and dw sittin in my bank xD

1. Lightning staff, sharp. I tried going with inferno/SnB but i gotta have a channelled staff heavy attack, so it was either lightning or resto.

When i first made my sorc, he was a high elf magsorc. I've always hated the petsorc play style, and didn't wanna do mages guild again, so i used dawnbreaker as my ult with a shock staff...slowly morphed to a race change for Stamsorc, and it seems ive come full circle.

Point being, i use dawnbreaker on my lightning staff as my main ult and yes it is increased. Highest i saw on an 810cp was 16k lol.

I didn't think about it helping hurricane though, ill have to test that out!

2. I have a few other sets (for example the previously mentioned briarheart, literally shackle everything mostly gold, etc) and this hard frag crit rush combo sounds hilarious lol.

Gapcloser isnt a problem at all though- medium armor, orc, steed mundus, hurricane, bow+dodge cp+sprint cp=fast af.

That being said, yeah if the build continues to perform well, ill likely expand my choice of weapons to include NMA inferno, 2h, and DW, along with a potentate resto, and possibly 2h.

Good point with aoe/st, although ironically a lot of sorc skills are actually both so its a bit of a wash. But having different weapons/skills for different situations is definitely something i tend to do.

Questions for you-
WoF=wall of flame? Wmk=?

As far as pelinals being weak, eh. I used to look at it that way, but after creating pvp dmg builds with other oft-overlooked sets, i gave it a shot and the stats are good enough for me(besides fine tuning).

It would be cool if it was max/rec/dmg of both though lol.

WoF = Way of Fire
WMK= Way of the Martial Knowledge

Yeah, in fact Pelinal's is not bad at all, problem is that for a 9 traits set its bonus 2-4 are not something to celebrate. the 5th bonus is amazing though. On a magplar with 2H you can get "major sorc" without having to depend on Rattlecage or entropy just through that bonus.

What I found interesting about Pelinal's is that utilities with dmg/heal become decent even if you don't spec on the main attribute of the skill. For example, Rally's heal on a magplar with 2H is much stronger with Pelinal's than without it, and can get decent numbers on a sDK with major mending active. Same in the case of cripple on a stamblade (but don't tell bowtards about it xD). Even JB on a stamplar could eventually work with pelinals

Xvorg

Iskiab wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Gatdangmayne wrote: »

@Iskiab

Sorry uesp is a pain to work with on my phone, ill see if i can put it in when i get home later today though.

I've got it all pretty well memorized though, besides my exact cp which is still a work in progress anyway, and i did swap over to medium when i crafted my NMA destro, just using 5m/2h because i goofed on my crafting and was too lazy to swap just for the 5/1/1 lol.

There's basically two ways ive been running it: Orc, sugar skulls, steed(might try out the crit % mundus though). NMA lightning sharpened with restore mag, potentates infused bow with berserker enchant.

Jewelry is one part i swap, it's either 3x NMA infused wpn damage, or 2x NMA infused wpn dmg+potentate neck arcane with wpn dmg. If i had made the NMA for this specifically i probably would have gone with arcane.

Anyway, so besides the one jewelry everything is the same, except one monster piece is replaced with a NMA piece.

I went with all max mag glyphs, and all impen so i could deal with only 75 in the first red tree, though i can see the merit of infused head/chest/waist with tri stats and using just mag/health food.

If using 3 pc potentates, 1 pc domi is the obvious choice IMO.

Also i feel its worth mentioning i struggled deciding on weapons. I knew i wanted to have either a lightning or resto, either would have also worked for the backbar. If i had a resto i probably would've went DW NMA swords front or a 2h sword. After trying what I've got, i actually think a NMA bow would've been really awesome frontbar with either resto or destro back.

I decided on lightning for obvious sorc reasons, and bow literally only for the roll dodge passive and ranged stam regen.

So anyway, this is the gear i have now:

Head: Heavy, NMA/Monster
Chest: Heavy, Pelinals
Shoulders: Medium, Domihaus/Monster
Hands: Medium, Pelinals
Waist: Medium, Pelinals
Legs: Medium, Pelinals
Feet: Medium, Pelinals
Neck: Arcane Potentates/Infused NMA
Rings: Infused NMAx2


Skills are still a work in progress, I'm super rusty as a "mag" sorc and a better sorc could do better sure, also psijic and mages would be helpful but alas i have neither on this alt. That being said, the skill bars i was using last were:

Frontbar destro: Hurricane (large aoe, higher wpn crit=more surge heals), crit surge, hardened ward (empowered maybe better), wrath aoe version, frag/impulse, dawnbreaker of smiting/negate/EoTS

Backbar bow: Vigor, dark deal, bound daggers(might go aegis), BoL(might go streak idk yet, flex, been using reviving barrier (~140 cost w potentates) or dawnbreaker

As far as cp, i dumped into shields red tree to the tune of 17%-20% a few into heals taken and player light/heavy damage, standardish besides that. I have 75/120/75 IIRC.

Green trees i have around 18% break free, a few in sprint. Around 20% roll dodge, around 9% block. 12% heavy restore, and then health/mag/stam all at i believe 7%-9%.

Blue, i have 75/120/75 again. Roughly 7% mag damage, maybe a few into heals, the rest in pen. 20%ish direct, then slightly more into staff attacks than physical weapon attacks but some in both. Lastly, around 1000 phys pen, 12-15% dot, 5%-6% phys dmg, the rest into stam crit-since vigor is my main heal, and hopefully dark conversion (stam for mag) also scales but idk.

Super fast, hits hard, nobody knows wtf im doing when i bow light attack spam into a bound dagger proc into streak into impulse spam dawnbreaker. A LOT of people either literally stopped attacking to watch and see wtf i was doing, and plenty more seemed to fatally underestimate the amount of damage and survivability i have lmao.

When i get more playtime and fine tune it a little more i plan on making a stand alone post for this build and a proper video showing gameplay and whatnot. I save a ton of my playtime though, so anecdotally i was hitting people for:

Hurricane: 300-1200 per tick
Bound daggers: 400-1k per tick
Impulse: 2.5-6k
Frag: 5-9k
Wrath: 4-7k
Dawnbreaker: 4-10k, 2-3k dot ticks
EoTS:3.5-6k per tick

As far as mist form, it could definitely work- but personally if i was going to use mist i think i would've went with NMA 2h frontbar and either an infused or defending lightning or resto staff, to make use of the awesome synergy between rally and mist, so i would lose vigor for rally and probably go with heavy armor for a vamp.

Side note, I'm confident this build would work great on nightblade, and probably on any class depending on the exact setup.


Happy to answer any other questions or listen to suggestions though- real theorycrafters are hard to find lol.

Interesting
I'm doing something similar on a medium armor magplar using pelinals and briarheart, considering briarheart procs for any crit (no mater if it's mag or stam). Anyway it's still a work in progress


Couple of things on your build:

1- What kind of destro are you using? Shock used to increase AoE in all AoEs, no matter if it's mag or stam, but IDK if that was changed (which would help you with hurricane) but you will miss the extra pen.
2- Despite that, I would suggesst you go 2H or DW sword since the dmg increase is for both, AoE and ST skills. With 2H you will solve the gap closer problem and you can add the good old combo hard cast frags + crit charge (both hit at the same time)

Some years ago, before Pelinals came out, I had a hybrid sorc that used WoF and WMK. It was super fun and had a lot of potential, but then ZoS nerfed CP resource recovery and the build died. Then I've been trying another sorc hybrid using pelinal's, but their 2-4 bonus are quite bad. If Pelinal's had similar bonuses to Shacklebreaker, it could be a great set (maybe changing wpn or spell dmg for wpn and spell crit)

Pelinals isn’t bad, it’s not overloaded but sustain bonus’ just mean you don’t need sustain from other places. Treat pelinals as your sustain set.

Where I’ve always had difficulty is getting a decent mag and stam pool and penetration. Pelinals with 5m, 3x infused weapon damage glyphs, using 2H for onslaught is a good starting spot. You end up with more spell damage for mag abilities then 5L.

Yeah, I found pen the biggest issue on pelinal's builds. One way to solve it is to choose DD or DoT dmg and then ignore physical/magical stars as well as crit dmg stars. Focus on Pen stars while keeping sharp and lady.

In theory you could work around both, resource pool and pen with a combo of Pelinal's + TBS, but I'm still quite far from the 9th bonus on jewelry. Lover + Tower or Lover + Mage and Dunmer should be the way to go

Karmanorway

TBois wrote: »

Karmanorway wrote: »

Gatdangmayne wrote: »

So i love theorycrafting and trying out weird builds in pvp, most are total ass, but when it works, it works.

Posting this because i always said medium was better than heavy..until i made a SnB/bow nord warden with max resistances, mag for wings, ice shield and lotus, crazy ult gen (like dawnbreaker IN my perma), 3k health recovery, oh and fully buffed ~5k wpn damage.


So, now I'm brainstorming how to make heavy builds on all my stam toons lol...

Anyway, let's hear those builds!

Stamsorc:
/Zaan
/Curse of doylemish
/master axes + damage health IX
/Cyrodiils crest snb backbar.

Rotation: Trap beast>Silver leash>Heavy cancel blood craze>Soul assault with zaan proc literally the most fun build ive ever played, never seen players melt like that before. xD

Please try it for yourself, u are going to have blast with it xD

Lol did you play that in Scalebreaker?

Edit: I ask because ppl probably melted even quicker.

This was after scalebreaker, and also tried it after dots nerf, ppl still melt fast but this build works mostly in duels, not reliable when outnumbered xD it would be better on a DK or warden lol

Eormenric

NB Tank Solo/Boss Fight Dungeon Set:

2-piece Vykosa Helm Set (though this can be anything else as even I sometimes forget to bash)
5-piece Master Architect
5-Piece Cyrodiil's Light
Vampire
Preferably Altmer Race

With the appropriate investments, the idea is you constantly use Invigorating Drain for massive ultimate regen and 15-20% less damage taken. Use Death Stroke (either version) to give your dps 15% extra damage and your self-sustain is insane. I've been workshopping this for awhile and it's turning out really well in practice. Lots of my dps in the group are seeing very large numbers.

Iskiab

Eormenric wrote: »

NB Tank Solo/Boss Fight Dungeon Set:

2-piece Vykosa Helm Set (though this can be anything else as even I sometimes forget to bash)
5-piece Master Architect
5-Piece Cyrodiil's Light
Vampire
Preferably Altmer Race

With the appropriate investments, the idea is you constantly use Invigorating Drain for massive ultimate regen and 15-20% less damage taken. Use Death Stroke (either version) to give your dps 15% extra damage and your self-sustain is insane. I've been workshopping this for awhile and it's turning out really well in practice. Lots of my dps in the group are seeing very large numbers.

Are you able to tank vet DLCs with it? I wanted to try magNB tanking on my alt but am more comfortable healing so went that route.

Have you tried something like daring Corsair, MA, S&B/resto building Ult with soul harvest and resto Ult spam? Daring you can craft in heavy.

wanders_the_swamps

TBois wrote: »

wanders_the_swamps wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

I run Overload on my stam sorc.

https://youtu.be/X4AMdfclbG0

I am working on a similar setup now with vMA frost staff back bar.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=186569

Should have some gameplay footage of within the next couple of weeks.

I don't know how I ended up watching the entire video , good songs and valiant effort! , I was hoping you would capture the flag back at the end

Haha, I appreciate that! I was thinking of cutting it all into just short clips of the deaths, but I liked the flow of the whole fight.

I kept hoping they would get tired of coming back. Those DC were quite persistent though.

It's been 2 years+, I'm long gone from eso and found my home in bdo, just remembered your video and came back again to eso forums to search for the "gold" video lol. You'll always be my unsung hero who valiantly fought an entire party single handedly. Hope you are doing well and having fun. Hats off to u brother, your fight in that video really placed a mark somewhere in my forgetting memories. That crumbling castle song u introduced me to.. Thank you. Good luck. Keep kicking ass! :-)

Waffennacht

https://youtu.be/mQNNTOPFFIU

https://youtu.be/T0pTJxwDzZc

https://youtu.be/eeLOKvro9A0

https://youtu.be/exnY2FfAb64