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Please Ban Twilight Matrons in all city zones, let me explain why so frustrated.
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Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Please don't. There are other solutions like shrinking them, fixing interacticity, etc. that can address the situation without a blanket removal.
City zones are combat zones for questing, justice system, and dueling. Its one thing for Necromancers to not have access to all their skills in cities - they launched that way and every player knew what to expect. Its a whole different thing to take away access to a Sorc skill when they've always had access to it in cities since Launch.
Also, ZOS could make it obvious how to dismiss pets. I hit Champion Points long before I realized I could dismiss my twilight by clicking on the buff on my character sheet. I used to have to physically remove it from my bar to dismiss it.
Banning pets in cities - basically changing how sorc and warden classes have worked since their release - should be a last resort.
Oh, OK.
But, even then, you're still having to go to your character sheet to dismiss; as opposed to clicking one key/button.
When the game first launched, you just clicked the summon button again, to dismiss pet, but then they changed it and that no longer worked.
So, I eventually went and downloaded an addon, after I returned three years later and couldn't find any other reasonable solution.
I also try to make sure my bear isn't standing on top of things, like the writ hand-in containers, or loot containers.
However, there is only so much people can do and new players simply don't know how to dismiss, at all and/or find it too unnerving to remove the ability entirely and then have to try to find it again, when they need it.0 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭As someone who spends far to many hours in this game each week for the past five and a half years I do not see this issue being such a big issue. It is rare I am blocked by a pet to begin with and when I am it is usually resolved with a step in one direction of another.
idk, maybe I notice them and approach a crafting table or wayshrine so they are not in my way but I just do not see this as a the major issue OP seems to find it to me. I guess it is just a difference of what we choose to focus on that leads to this very different impression.
Once in a while another player's pet will block me from looting things.
Typical example would be someone camping the wayshrine near the North West dragon, in Elsweyr.
There are containers there and I always try to loot them before, or after, fighting the dragon.
But, it's pretty rare that you are permanently, or seriously, blocked from looting by a pet.1 -
Cirantille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭We don't need a ban but we need conscience.
As a common courtesy, I always unsummon them near crafting stations or wayshrines, if I am using pets.
Same goes for the grizzly, it took me 5 minutes of trying to be able to get out of a store.
Why would you bring such huge summoned minions to tiny places.
Why people don't care about others in this case, so annoying.Edited by Cirantille on October 21, 2019 9:14AM4 -
DarcyMardin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just adding my vote to getting rid of pets in town. I use a one-click dismiss pet add-on, but occasionally I forget to do it, which is embarrassing when I realize it. I know how much I hate it when someone’s pet is blocking a writ turn-in, and I certainly don’t want to obstruct other players with *my* pets.4 -
Aigym_Hlervu✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Please don't. There are other solutions like shrinking them, fixing interacticity, etc. that can address the situation without a blanket removal.
City zones are combat zones for questing, justice system, and dueling. Its one thing for Necromancers to not have access to all their skills in cities - they launched that way and every player knew what to expect. Its a whole different thing to take away access to a Sorc skill when they've always had access to it in cities since Launch.
Also, ZOS could make it obvious how to dismiss pets. I hit Champion Points long before I realized I could dismiss my twilight by clicking on the buff on my character sheet. I used to have to physically remove it from my bar to dismiss it.
Banning pets in cities - basically changing how sorc and warden classes have worked since their release - should be a last resort.
Hey, @Dracofyre and those who agrees with him. Read twice what @VaranisArano has written to you before proposing any ban. Those measures are the only correct and possible. What game are you playing? If it is the Elder Scrolls first and MMO the second, then you must know that summoning all the existing Daedric servants is the right protected by the Temple in Morrowind. Read this book if you haven't read it yet. You want those servants banned? Fine, but don't make your proposition touch all the lands of Tamriel! Morrowind is very specific on that. Regarding measures to make you less nervous while you see those pets, Varanis has given you the ways how to do it and he's absolutely right on that. Otherwise, if you don't want to be annoyed with those Twilight's wings - stay away from them. I always dismiss my pets while not in combat regardless of the location - be it a town or the wilderness. I don't like those servants follow me whenever they are unnecessary to me and because of my respect to the likes of you. But I do not blame anyone who does not do the same thing I do. This is their right protected by the lore, so let them be or speak of some specific locations only. Thank you for your insight.2 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just have an easy way for me to dismiss the ugly birdpeople when I want to.
I agree, but in the meantime you could always download the Pet Dismiss addon.
Not an ideal solution for me, as I dislike having to use addons - especially for things that should be a standard part of any game of this type - but, this is ESO.
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Melilotta✭✭✭you have to physically remove the pet skill from your bars (if you have it on both bars), every time.
Yes, you can dismiss the pet without removing the skill from your bar: on the screen that shows your active effects (usually it's the C key), with the right mouse button.
Took me reeeally long to find out it was possible.
My bear isn't wandering, he's following me, as tame as anything! Why don't non-combat pets bother you, then? There are some quite large tigers and leopards.Nordic__Knights wrote: »and at any given time if I seen a bear wandering the streets I would kill it too
Edited by Melilotta on October 21, 2019 9:40AM2 -
kinguardian✭✭✭✭I agree because we already have pets which I really love
but the warden bear and the purple creatures is to much and very irritating. As soon I don't use them I put them away and indeed in cities they should automatically disappear. 2 -
aetherial_heavenn✭✭✭✭✭I'd suggest shrinking the matriarch to the scamp's size. I play a pet sorc and it drives me nuts to slot it. In fact i take the dps loss and use the scamp when i can get away with it because the continual flappy flap flap is so annoying.
A pet dismiss keybind without having to use an addon or open the character screen would help too. I do tell people about the C screen click buff option. I don't understand why there isn't a pet dismiss keybind available though.
But theconstant flappy flap flap would still irritate me when actually playing.
So just shrink it and make it quieter.Edited by aetherial_heavenn on October 21, 2019 9:50AMQuoted for truth
"In my experience, the elite ones have not been very toxic, and the toxic ones not very elite." WrathOfInnos3 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, you can dismiss the pet without removing the skill from your bar: on the screen that shows your active effects (usually it's the C key), with the right mouse button.
Took me reeeally long to find out it was possible.
Yeah and I (clearly!) never did.
Thread talking about when it changed:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251413/unsummon-your-summomnd-pets
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Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Rave the Histborn wrote: »their wings are fanned out wide and flapping, so annoying that i had to fight with my mouse very aggressively trying to target exiting doors, click on crafting stations, and even in attempt to blade of woeing some npcs, and harder to see and click on strongboxes.
i dont mind outside of city areas or in dungeon if they are not in the way. i just dont like "IN YOUR FACE", but ban in city zones, just like nerco's skills which are outlawed in city zones.
Please.
due to some players are either being rude or too lazy.
Switch to first person view. Problem solved.
First person doesn't solve the Bears butt swallowing crates at the crafting hand in station unfortunately
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ShellaSunshine✭✭✭You could nicely whisper the person or say in chat to please put away their pets at crafting stations. I've had new players tell me they don't know how to remove them.
It takes less time to explain to them how to remove their pets than it does to come here and complain.
Side note: you can activate crafting stations from the back in most places so it's only an issue of you not being able to either talk to the person in a civil manner or to use your brain and get creative.
At this point in the game, you should be in a guild with all crafting stations or have crafting stations at your house.
Problem solved.1 -
purple-magicb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭If they do that then they'll have to do the same with bear pets b/c same issuesI don't comment here often but when I do, I get [snip]1 -
Melilotta✭✭✭
Thread talking about when it changed:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251413/unsummon-your-summomnd-pets
Not sure what you mean. In that thread someone says:You must press RMB on each effect of summons on active effects menu (Character menu).
That's exactly what I said, too. A way to unsummon without taking the pet skill off your skill bar.
In fact, I think that's where I first learned about it.
Upd: Sorry, I just didn't see your next post where you were speaking about this! No questions any more.Edited by Melilotta on October 21, 2019 11:17AM0 -
Ysbriel✭✭✭✭✭I run a petsorc once in a while, and i never cast them away since i barely spend time in town with her but why is it ilegal to raise the undead in towns but perfectly fine to cast a beast straight from Oblivion with the current state of events taking over Tamriel? wouldn’t it make sense if town guards would tell you “Halt! scumbag!! keep that foul beast out of this town!”, yes?
But arguing that here will not prove a point , however making our on special player base event
called “The Grand Sorcerer Proving” and we all duel right there in front of lets say, Vicec city crafting stations and both sides of the bank, all week long just pure petsorc slugfest. Zap Zap Zap, here comes the atronach!! 24 nonstop!! problem solved.Edited by Ysbriel on October 21, 2019 12:03PM1 -
The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I use the addon Pet Dismiss. The addon allows you to keybind a pet dismiss option. It gets very detailed, such as a bind for all pets or individual binds for each pet (bear and Sorc pets).1 -
The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I run a petsorc once in a while, and i never cast them away since i barely spend time in town with her but why is it ilegal to raise the undead in towns but perfectly fine to cast a beast straight from Oblivion with the current state of events taking over Tamriel? wouldn’t it make sense if town guards would tell you “Halt! scumbag!! keep that foul beast out of this town!”, yes?
But arguing that here will not prove a point , however making our on special player base event
callied “The Grand Sorcerer Proving” and we all duel right there in front of lets say, Vicec city crafting crafting stations and both sides of the bank, all week long just pure petsorc slugfest. Zap Zap Zap, here comes the atronach!! 24 nonstop!! problem solved.
I get this concern. But, in all previous games, you could summon in towns all the time without penalty.1 -
Coatmagic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Should be a pet shrink in the game.
Flappy is so annoying in dungeons sitting on my head and often tanking with no healer and need it out and can't taunt through it's stupid wings.
Don't even get me started on the bears. My warden runs up to loot something and my bear sits it's fat arse right on top preventing any interaction.
Give us a pet shrink, ZoS!!!!
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Merenwen_812✭✭✭I use the add on pet dismiss. It is keybound to my end key for ease. I hate trying to turn in writs and the pets are all over. The twilight and warden bear are the worse as they tend to get on the boxes and makes the boxes not interactable. As a pet user, I simply hit 'end' when in town. This dismisses them so they are not in anyone's way. They don't need to be banned, the owners need to be more considerate of their pets (like in RL be a responsible pet owner people!) :P2
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Dracofyre✭✭✭✭tigereye, i dont have sorc alt made, i played DK, Templar, and just made Necro.
yes, there is interaction issue, as the wings flaps, sometime i could click, it all timings and frustrated.
not long ago when i enter Devon's watch bank, it was hard to see, and there was like 10 twilights and bears inside, i had to forced mouse over, it is a mess.
Neverwinter, other games dont allow "pets" indoors, they get automatic unsummoned so that we can interact with npc or doors.0 -
Aigym_Hlervu✭✭✭✭✭I run a petsorc once in a while, and i never cast them away since i barely spend time in town with her but why is it ilegal to raise the undead in towns but perfectly fine to cast a beast straight from Oblivion with the current state of events taking over Tamriel? wouldn’t it make sense if town guards would tell you “Halt! scumbag!! keep that foul beast out of this town!”, yes?
No. Man, read my post just several posts above yours, it isn't that hard. There is an answer to your question regarding Morrowind with a direct reference to a certain in-game book. Hope this book changes your mind.0 -
LadyAstrum✭✭✭✭✭
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Neverwinter, other games dont allow "pets" indoors, they get automatic unsummoned so that we can interact with npc or doors.
That's what I'd prefer to see. A lot of people aren't considerate in the real world, for the most part, they're not going to be in-game either. Just auto unsummon/phase them out please, ZoS. No one needs them in the cities, the only exception being duels.~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~1 -
Nevasca✭✭✭✭✭Solution is quite simple: Make summoned pets invisible and not targetable to everyone you are not grouped with. Owner see them just fine. Enable them back in pvp zones for obvious reasons.0 -
Ysbriel✭✭✭✭✭Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »I run a petsorc once in a while, and i never cast them away since i barely spend time in town with her but why is it ilegal to raise the undead in towns but perfectly fine to cast a beast straight from Oblivion with the current state of events taking over Tamriel? wouldn’t it make sense if town guards would tell you “Halt! scumbag!! keep that foul beast out of this town!”, yes?
No. Man, read my post just several posts above yours, it isn't that hard. There is an answer to your question regarding Morrowind with a direct reference to a certain in-game book. Hope this book changes your mind.
We can change the event location if having it on Morrowind troubles you.0 -
Deter1UK✭✭✭✭✭This thread again?
Look if someones pet is bothering you mention politely that there is a TINY add-on to dismiss it.
I can't stand my own pets in towns so ... button 9 and they are gone
Its so simple. Really.0 -
SpiderKnight✭✭✭✭✭
✭There are better ways around this, like removing sorcs entirely. Wardens are fine though, bears can be trained.Edited by SpiderKnight on October 21, 2019 12:43PM0 -
Konstant_Tel_Necris✭✭✭✭✭Why remove? Why not just simply allow Twilight land on idle instead of constant flying? Game already have such animation.
And they do this in TES3 also
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