nhisso wrote: »

I hate that poor excuse. I am LOVING this game, but I hate the restrictions in skills in MMOs these days. And to say it's based on strategy is total non sense. Some of us like variety and don't like being limited. If you want that fake brand of strategy, you can do it yourself. The rest of us shouldn't have to suffer. HOWEVER, in this game, it's not so bad. Anyone who's played the single player games knows how limited your skills were, so for Elder Scrolls, these extra "moves" are just fine by me.

Anyone that does want more skills than what ESO allows can just go play one of the games that let you have near-infinite action bars, there are enough of them.

We don't need or want every game to be a carbon copy of those before it and having more skills than you would ever need all available at the same time is not a must-have in any game. It is merely a direction many MMO companies have gone.

Calyn wrote: »

I have to say that this is very disappointing. There are so many skills that have to be activated. There's nothing strategic about picking 5 skills when the specific class trees have double that for one weapon type. I don't want a clone of another MMO with 500 slots but 10 available at one time would be more than enough. This game is awesome but this feels way too restrictive for a PC MMO. However thank you all for the quick responses.

but you do have 10 skills at one time, 12 if you count ultimates, have you even hit level 15?
if you so desperately want a diferent playstyles with more slots available, then go back to wow or all the other mmo's, the combat in eso is designed to be this way, dont like it? dont play it, i normally dont say that, because i understand that people have diferent opinions, but youre asking for a complete change of combat, this would be akin of going to wow and asking that there only be 5 skills or 10 skills, when the combat in wow is not designed that way, or goind to diablo and asking for having multiple hotbars, diferent games have diferent play styles, and to the people complayning about the quickslots, are you *** kiding me? its simple as *** to use, you guys complain about everything. of all the things wrong with the game you chose the things that arent.

"Not a console port" my a**!!

As a sorc, I cannot use the weapon switch ability because to do so would cause my pets to disappear, this would place me in grave jeopardy while in the middle of combat. So I would think ESO should expand the slots from 1 to 5 to 1 to 0 on the keyboard. I for one cannot understand nor fathom this restriction.

Fransiscus wrote: »

I thougt somebody told us before when u slot the pet in both bars the pet stays correct me if im wrong please

You are correct

Well this limiting feature to me with only 5 skills and Ultimate allowed and the fact the stupid wheel thing instead of hotkeys for each means I will play to 50 and probably quit. Yes I know at level 15 you get a second set of skill keys to use when you switch weapons.

Not to mention no global auction system so you can only sell items inside one guild at a time is ridiculas. Let the item we are selling list to all 5 guilds at same time.

No name tags above even NPC heads really turns me off from this game, sometimes I have a hard time finding the NPC I am looking for. Yesterday I was in Grahtwood at a Inn and hovering over the inn it said it had vendors and so on. Well I looked around for 5 minutes and never found the vendor I wanted even though it was supposed to be there so I said heck with it. Not allowing us the option to turn on Name Plates above heads is a bad idea.

I would also like to see at least 6-7 hotbars per weapon group. It is not like I forgot the skills I spent valuable skill points on, so I should be able to use them. There are three main types of potions so we should get three hotkeys for potions. You can plan ahead all you want, but if you have never fought the mob before its a crapshoot.

I do understand that you level up based on the skills you have slotted and the devs dont want players to level up too fast, but there has to be a better balance than 5 slots per weapon group. I am not saying 20+ slots, but a few more would make more sense.

Its not hard . Use your brains .Add stuff to quickslot, easy to select new item anytime once there. The power slots are fine especially once you get second toolbar/weapon swap at 15.
Really spoonfed ten thousand toolbar mmos havent help some of you lol

I can agree to this thread. We really do need more slots.

As far as the action bar is concerned, I think it's vital to creating a very specific role for each player, particularly in pvp. When you're a level veteran 5 dk with primarily cc's slotted and maybe a heal or a dps in one slot, it gives a lower level player a way to plan and create a way to get at you. It's a whole other layer of strategy. Sure, there are times where I scratch my head at what I want to sacrifice for that new ability I have, but in pvp this 6 (12) slot limitation is just about right for creating an environment where 2 players of the same class can have radically different playstyles, and likewise can plan accordingly for the other's demise.

As far as the quickslots go, It's somewhat realistic, dont you think? Picture a large, psychotic, fleshless abomination (or an enemy dragonknght) is bearing down on you: You're injured, tired and/or panicked. How fast could you fumble around in your pouches for that perfect potion for the situation? Strange enough that you can pull a friggin trebuchet out of your b...ack pocket. Well, whole other discussion, but I think the quickslots work just fine, it just requires a little pre-planning, or kiting and practice.

Did I mention "plan accordingly?" A little foresight goes a long way, and while this isn't rift or wow with the 200 quickslots - not by a longshot - this was meant to be a departure from that sort of game. There is no "Best combo" when there are so many decent skills, but no one player can use them all at the same time.
Au contraire when every player can slot one third of their abilities at one time, then switch weapons to slot another third (checking my math.. hrm about right, if you had 10 slots + an ulti) then pretty much everyone will end up with the same cookie-cutter builds.

imjanko wrote: »

I like the strategy of 5 slots as far as planning and whatnot.
Quickslots for consumables shouldn't be a controller based scheme on a PC game though

The bolded!

All i would want is to have an option to preset few combat options, and then chose which ones i use at some given time, because what is annoying to me is that i need to reset the skills depending to what i am doing, if i am soloing i have 12 skills, and then i get a group and become main healer i want use different 12 and for pvp i have slightly different setup and this constant resting is annoying, i should have predefined sets, that i could activate out of the combat, and use them when i need them, without the fuss to reset bloody skill every time i need to do something, and this still wouldn't go against the policy to have 12 active skills you can swap in combat, but frankly it would get my life a lot easier

MerlinCorey wrote: »

All i would want is to have an option to preset few combat options, and then chose which ones i use at some given time, because what is annoying to me is that i need to reset the skills depending to what i am doing, if i am soloing i have 12 skills, and then i get a group and become main healer i want use different 12 and for pvp i have slightly different setup and this constant resting is annoying, i should have predefined sets, that i could activate out of the combat, and use them when i need them, without the fuss to reset bloody skill every time i need to do something, and this still wouldn't go against the policy to have 12 active skills you can swap in combat, but frankly it would get my life a lot easier

I agree. Though I hate to use the reference, but make it like COD(Call of Duty). For those that have never played it, you have 5 or more "loadout" options that are completely customizable and can be selected at any given time during a match. Although to actually get to a different loadout once a match has started, you have to wait till you die. I would MUCH prefer something like that, without the having to die part, that I can switch between while NOT in combat.

Paithan wrote: »

this was done because the game will also be for console users. one, the dev's are either too lazy to develop 2 ui's for the different platforms. or two, they're worried about console users crying that the pc users have an "unfair advantage" over them because they have a fully functioning ui. which they would have an advantage. wake up, pc's are real computers with full use of their function, consoles are neutered calculators meant for playing cod over and over.

personally i think its the first one. they simply had no desire to use more dev time creating 2 separate ui's. it still boggles the mind that each new game goes back to square one with the ui, and we're stuck waiting years for them to catch up to the other games. it's like the dev's have done no research at all as to what features other games have incorporated into theirs. rift is the only game i can think of off hand that had a fully functioning ui at release.

which annoys me greatly. the ui is the entire way to interface with the game (duh, ui=user interface) and if you find it annoying to play or look at the game, it shortens how long you're willing to play that game. it all works itself out in the end. people who like the limited ui will keep playing. people who don't, won't.

Actually PC users wouldn't have any advantage over console users. Console players will be playing on a separate server entirely. Allowing a more "robust" UI for the PC would in no way affect how the console version functions.