fix d swing yo

Some people may exploit but the cheating your trying to explain is more than likely a health dysnc on your end or a lag effect. Someone recently posted a video of a full to dead scenario and you can clearly see them take a curse and frag to the face with no change in their health. So when another small burst came in it looked to them like they got “cheated” but they did not.

What I find funny is all the people that accused someone of cheating have no video evidence to back their claim. It so simple to record and upload a 60 second clip.

crowfl56 wrote: »

IMO, there a very few pvp cheaters in this game.

Why do I say this, simply, in pvp there are some extremely good players, with dang good builds.

Now as far as the few that really do cheat, you can tell everytime when they show up.

First way to tell in the forums, is when certain folks try to defend their actions, with its a game mech.

But its awful weird to attack a player with 10-20 other players and he/she never drops any life, but easily kills anyone they attack in less than 1 second.

There is NO possible way to set off 5 abilities in less than 1 second, but some players do that all the time.

How is that, even using anamation canceling, or weaving, you can't do that and have all 5 abilities go off at once, but some peeps can.

So keep on reporting, but try and make sure they are actually a cheater, not just a good player

Lmao. You have a lot to learn. Seriously attack my Stamden, if you hit me while my hots are up with HOT pots you're seriously wasting your time. And your buddies spamming attacks just helps heal me cause they do 500 dmg with their attack and I heal for more than that for taking the dmg. In short, no people aren't modding and cheating much, ZOS has great red flags in place for that kind of Tom Foolery. The only "Cheat" you see is when they desync your health with snipe then it looks like 5 attacks hit at once. If you see snipe or snipers it's time to over heal cause your healthbar isnt where you think

Tasty wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

IMO, there a very few pvp cheaters in this game.

Why do I say this, simply, in pvp there are some extremely good players, with dang good builds.

Now as far as the few that really do cheat, you can tell everytime when they show up.

First way to tell in the forums, is when certain folks try to defend their actions, with its a game mech.

But its awful weird to attack a player with 10-20 other players and he/she never drops any life, but easily kills anyone they attack in less than 1 second.

There is NO possible way to set off 5 abilities in less than 1 second, but some players do that all the time.

How is that, even using anamation canceling, or weaving, you can't do that and have all 5 abilities go off at once, but some peeps can.

So keep on reporting, but try and make sure they are actually a cheater, not just a good player

Unfortunately, most people equate "not dieing" with "winning". So anytime they die they go right to "exploiter" ""hacker" etc. because obviously they couldn't die unless someone cheated. They will tell you that they 1vx'd you because they aren't in a group. Never mind the 50 other people in their faction right behind them. Then turn around and say that you are a "Zergling" because they attacked alone while you were standing at a resource with 10 other people in your faction. Just the nature of PvP sometimes.

Logic ain't some of these people's strong suit.

I think the main problem is the lack of understanding about the play style difference from PvE with alot of "new" PvP players just because you can solo a vet dungeon with scripted enemies that are predictable and deal a pre-determined amount of damage does not mean an off the shelf youtube build made shinny gold will make you a killer in PvP, as soon as ppl realise that death in Cyrodill is as much of the game as Killing a player the less toxic and salty PvP will be.

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Tasty wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

IMO, there a very few pvp cheaters in this game.

Why do I say this, simply, in pvp there are some extremely good players, with dang good builds.

Now as far as the few that really do cheat, you can tell everytime when they show up.

First way to tell in the forums, is when certain folks try to defend their actions, with its a game mech.

But its awful weird to attack a player with 10-20 other players and he/she never drops any life, but easily kills anyone they attack in less than 1 second.

There is NO possible way to set off 5 abilities in less than 1 second, but some players do that all the time.

How is that, even using anamation canceling, or weaving, you can't do that and have all 5 abilities go off at once, but some peeps can.

So keep on reporting, but try and make sure they are actually a cheater, not just a good player

Unfortunately, most people equate "not dieing" with "winning". So anytime they die they go right to "exploiter" ""hacker" etc. because obviously they couldn't die unless someone cheated. They will tell you that they 1vx'd you because they aren't in a group. Never mind the 50 other people in their faction right behind them. Then turn around and say that you are a "Zergling" because they attacked alone while you were standing at a resource with 10 other people in your faction. Just the nature of PvP sometimes.

Logic ain't some of these people's strong suit.

I think the main problem is the lack of understanding about the play style difference from PvE with alot of "new" PvP players just because you can solo a vet dungeon with scripted enemies that are predictable and deal a pre-determined amount of damage does not mean an off the shelf youtube build made shinny gold will make you a killer in PvP, as soon as ppl realise that death in Cyrodill is as much of the game as Killing a player the less toxic and salty PvP will be.

Unfortunately the vast amount of salty whispers received are from people you see PvP'ing all the time. Most new players just tell you something like "ouch".

Tasty wrote: »

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Tasty wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

IMO, there a very few pvp cheaters in this game.

Why do I say this, simply, in pvp there are some extremely good players, with dang good builds.

Now as far as the few that really do cheat, you can tell everytime when they show up.

First way to tell in the forums, is when certain folks try to defend their actions, with its a game mech.

But its awful weird to attack a player with 10-20 other players and he/she never drops any life, but easily kills anyone they attack in less than 1 second.

There is NO possible way to set off 5 abilities in less than 1 second, but some players do that all the time.

How is that, even using anamation canceling, or weaving, you can't do that and have all 5 abilities go off at once, but some peeps can.

So keep on reporting, but try and make sure they are actually a cheater, not just a good player

Unfortunately, most people equate "not dieing" with "winning". So anytime they die they go right to "exploiter" ""hacker" etc. because obviously they couldn't die unless someone cheated. They will tell you that they 1vx'd you because they aren't in a group. Never mind the 50 other people in their faction right behind them. Then turn around and say that you are a "Zergling" because they attacked alone while you were standing at a resource with 10 other people in your faction. Just the nature of PvP sometimes.

Logic ain't some of these people's strong suit.

I think the main problem is the lack of understanding about the play style difference from PvE with alot of "new" PvP players just because you can solo a vet dungeon with scripted enemies that are predictable and deal a pre-determined amount of damage does not mean an off the shelf youtube build made shinny gold will make you a killer in PvP, as soon as ppl realise that death in Cyrodill is as much of the game as Killing a player the less toxic and salty PvP will be.

Unfortunately the vast amount of salty whispers received are from people you see PvP'ing all the time. Most new players just tell you something like "ouch".

i hear that lol, but i ment about the constant threads calling for cheating

Take a video and show us next time.

forumcommentor8 wrote:

Take a video and show us next time.

the above comment is exactly what we see all the time.
and even with screen shots, videos, and even loggs prooving that within 1 second 10 abilities fired off, they STILL make that comment claiming it was zero proof.

the problem here is that we need to recognize that:

1) we do not answer to forum commentors, there is zero reason to answer to anyone here on this forum accept a zenimax employee.

2) we have ZERO reason to show proof to anyone here on this forum, send all proof ONLY to zenimax employees!

3) the comment i quoted is in every single thread about cheating, and it is a question that no answer can satisfy by the honest player because the majority of the players here are simply trying to defend any and all corrections made to the animation canceling exploit that is involved in this subject we are talking about.

animation canceling is at the very root of this problem but does animation canceling itself a cheat? no, but it is the contributor and the door opener to this cheating and exploit to have 10 skills fire off at one time, and they ALLWAYS use the same filthy lie about the global cooling and the same old old old old story that if anyone disagrees with their belifs then that person is dumb, or that person cant animation cancel, or that person is just unknowledgeable about skills and how skills work in eso yet those are just lies.

Liam12548 wrote: »

necronyteub17_ESO wrote: »

https://scufgaming.com/playstation-vantage-controller.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078J2HQ9D/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=uncannyx-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B078J2HQ9D&linkId=76bd5a8735eb0d38a5b158a944399d2b
Yeah get you something like these and Animation canceling that is being allowed in ESO just makes macroing SOOO easy.
When someone in pvp kills you in less then a second and you look at the battle log of how you died and what was cast on you and by WHO.
5 abilities in half a second from the same person LOL.
It wasnt skill. It was one of these devices combined with the fact that animation canceling is in this game.
Put a cast time or make it so if you animation cancel then it stops the whole spell or ability from going off because well hell, YOU canceled it lol.
Cast times or removing anima canceling and POOF , their cheating macro making devices cease to help them haha.
I dont care what anyone says, because everyone has at one point or another been victim to an insta death from one of these cheaters . That is if youve even played any pvp in eso at all.

The animation canceling just enables them to be able to utilize these devices.
Even the XIM4 allows using your macro mouse or macro keyboard on your ps4 or xbox to mimic and appear as a legit console controller and macro as much as you want .

Animation cancelling helps these devices because it takes away any kind of delay between skill and abilities and strings them together without global cooldowns of any kind.

[Edit to remove baiting]

Gilvoth wrote: »

we showed proof that, that is not true.

This was an issue several years ago when it could be done at will with proper timing and cancelling, but it is no longer possible

yes it is, heres a few examples that were captured recently by a fellow player.

LegacyDM wrote: »

Here we have HA-->Sub Assault --->DoS all in the same second



Here we have a Cutting Dive ---->Heavy Attack ----> Sub Assault all in the same second followed by a DoS one second later. Poor game play design and BS.



Here we have a lethal arrow ----> Draining Shot all in the same second.



Here's an interesting one. An Ambush ----> Lethal Arrow. In the same second. Now how did he get an ambush off with a skill that actually requires a 1s channel cast time all in the same second. Not sure.



Here we have Dizzying Swing ---->Reverse Slice --->Sub Assault all in the same second.



And my personal favorite. Two focused aims in the same second.

Gilvoth wrote: »

forumcommentor8 wrote:

Take a video and show us next time.

the above comment is exactly what we see all the time.
and even with screen shots, videos, and even loggs prooving that within 1 second 10 abilities fired off, they STILL make that comment claiming it was zero proof.

the problem here is that we need to recognize that:

1) we do not answer to forum commentors, there is zero reason to answer to anyone here on this forum accept a zenimax employee.

2) we have ZERO reason to show proof to anyone here on this forum, send all proof ONLY to zenimax employees!

3) the comment i quoted is in every single thread about cheating, and it is a question that no answer can satisfy by the honest player because the majority of the players here are simply trying to defend any and all corrections made to the animation canceling exploit that is involved in this subject we are talking about.

animation canceling is at the very root of this problem but does animation canceling itself a cheat? no, but it is the contributor and the door opener to this cheating and exploit to have 10 skills fire off at one time, and they ALLWAYS use the same filthy lie about the global cooling and the same old old old old story that if anyone disagrees with their belifs then that person is dumb, or that person cant animation cancel, or that person is just unknowledgeable about skills and how skills work in eso yet those are just lies.

If this is the case then why moan here?

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

forumcommentor8 wrote:

Take a video and show us next time.

the above comment is exactly what we see all the time.
and even with screen shots, videos, and even loggs prooving that within 1 second 10 abilities fired off, they STILL make that comment claiming it was zero proof.

the problem here is that we need to recognize that:

1) we do not answer to forum commentors, there is zero reason to answer to anyone here on this forum accept a zenimax employee.

2) we have ZERO reason to show proof to anyone here on this forum, send all proof ONLY to zenimax employees!

3) the comment i quoted is in every single thread about cheating, and it is a question that no answer can satisfy by the honest player because the majority of the players here are simply trying to defend any and all corrections made to the animation canceling exploit that is involved in this subject we are talking about.

animation canceling is at the very root of this problem but does animation canceling itself a cheat? no, but it is the contributor and the door opener to this cheating and exploit to have 10 skills fire off at one time, and they ALLWAYS use the same filthy lie about the global cooling and the same old old old old story that if anyone disagrees with their belifs then that person is dumb, or that person cant animation cancel, or that person is just unknowledgeable about skills and how skills work in eso yet those are just lies.

If this is the case then why moan here?

its not my thread, im simply contributing to a thread that is being attacked by people that have contempt and disregard and attacks on threads that discuss the removal of animation canceling and the inquiry and investigation of cheating in eso.
why does my commenting in this thread bother you?
why does it matter if i am commenting in the thread?
do you have something against my commenting in and supporting the thread subject and title and informations within?

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

In todays patch notes there is a line about fixing an exploit. Yet the try hards still claim there is no cheating.

nobody has said there isnt anyone exploiting, and the patch notes are not specific in whether its a PvP or PvE exploit so that still does not validate the argument

we are not subject to prove Anything to YOU.

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Tasty wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

IMO, there a very few pvp cheaters in this game.

Why do I say this, simply, in pvp there are some extremely good players, with dang good builds.

Now as far as the few that really do cheat, you can tell everytime when they show up.

First way to tell in the forums, is when certain folks try to defend their actions, with its a game mech.

But its awful weird to attack a player with 10-20 other players and he/she never drops any life, but easily kills anyone they attack in less than 1 second.

There is NO possible way to set off 5 abilities in less than 1 second, but some players do that all the time.

How is that, even using anamation canceling, or weaving, you can't do that and have all 5 abilities go off at once, but some peeps can.

So keep on reporting, but try and make sure they are actually a cheater, not just a good player

Unfortunately, most people equate "not dieing" with "winning". So anytime they die they go right to "exploiter" ""hacker" etc. because obviously they couldn't die unless someone cheated. They will tell you that they 1vx'd you because they aren't in a group. Never mind the 50 other people in their faction right behind them. Then turn around and say that you are a "Zergling" because they attacked alone while you were standing at a resource with 10 other people in your faction. Just the nature of PvP sometimes.

Logic ain't some of these people's strong suit.

I think the main problem is the lack of understanding

i belive that comment is the problem on this forum.
the fact that we DO know what we are talking about seems to bother the majority of this community because it is pointing the the very apex of this problem and that point of inertia is animation canceling.