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New Agility / Willpower Stats
Vapirko
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These are barely buffs. 13 extra weapon damage? 300 max stat seems a bit low as well. But particularly the weapon damage, why bother? I'd see this being ok if you had enough slots to run two 5 piece sets and then Agility / Willpower in place of a monster set maybe. I was really hoping these would be legitimately useful in builds again, especially PvP builds. But no matter how you cut it 13 extra weapon damage just means they'll remain sitting in my bank. What was the reasoning behind this buff? The 613 health recovery from Endurance seems like a far better respective buff. Even running 2 one-piece weapon damage monster sets gives you 258 weapon damage which is more of a boost than 1752 stamina provides. So they dont even make sense as a two piece in place of a monster set.
Edited by Vapirko on September 17, 2019 2:24AM 9
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x48rph✭✭✭✭✭
✭Three piece sets are probably only ever going to be good for niche builds. You can run them with a monster set and arena weapons on both bars and then run another 5 pc for the rest. Not too many builds for this setup but I do know of one off the top of my head using it pretty efficiently right now.(See Nirnstorm's Magden build) As to the new numbers, I agree, not really impressive enough to use in place of the normal 5,5,2 for most builds2 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Your not wrong but they don't need to be BIS. At least they are noticing that nobody uses them and are bringing up the back end of gear to make them viable. Heck ZOS is on the right track to making more diversity in builds.PS4 NA DC3 -
Millz✭✭✭Yeah theyre mainly to be complemented with two arena weapons. Although I think they should get just a tad bit more because running two five pieces with a back bar proc and one arena weapon is more efficient.Brenhji
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah theyre mainly to be complemented with two arena weapons. Although I think they should get just a tad bit more because running two five pieces with a back bar proc and one arena weapon is more efficient.
Yes I get their purpose but they were completely dead before. Have been for a long time. 13 extra wpn damage won't change that.GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Your not wrong but they don't need to be BIS. At least they are noticing that nobody uses them and are bringing up the back end of gear to make them viable. Heck ZOS is on the right track to making more diversity in builds.
They won't be anything in slot.3 -
Fischblut✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All my stamina characters are using same set of Agility jewelry for third year now
This will be a buff for me...
But together with so many nerfs to my characters, this tiny buff won't matter
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✭With this up it's a nice 3 jewerly option if you want to use 2 master (or blackrose etc...) weapons and a monster set.Edited by Sarousse on September 17, 2019 2:48PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The numbers would be fine if arena weapons still universally offered 1pc stat lines like the perfected blackrose weapons currently do. They should just bring back the extra stats on arena weapons and call it a day.@ReactSlower - PC/NA - 2700+ CP ||| @ReactSlower - PC/EU - 1300+ CP ||| React Faster - XB/NA - 1500+ CP
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The numbers would be fine if arena weapons still universally offered 1pc stat lines like the perfected blackrose weapons currently do. They should just bring back the extra stats on arena weapons and call it a day.
Agreed. Clearly other people think they’re good, but I think they’ll be greatly lacking vs a full back bar or front bar setup.
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✭Eh, i only used willpower for the 2pc bonus on my front bar anway so a buff's a buff I guess.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The numbers would be fine if arena weapons still universally offered 1pc stat lines like the perfected blackrose weapons currently do. They should just bring back the extra stats on arena weapons and call it a day.
It's ridiculous how long it's taking ZOS to address these weapon stats. How hard can it be to just add the 1 pc stats to the items?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
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✭✭I think by buffing Willpower, for example, they want to make it competitive as a 2 piece option on one bar versus using a Torug's staff which effectively gives more spell damage on live especially in no cp. Same with Agility 2 piece versus Shacklebreaker 2 piece.-
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✭Idk but endurance seems ridiculously op. How do we go from 193 stam recov to 618 hp recov?? I though it was a typo honestly.2 -
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✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »The numbers would be fine if arena weapons still universally offered 1pc stat lines like the perfected blackrose weapons currently do. They should just bring back the extra stats on arena weapons and call it a day.
It's ridiculous how long it's taking ZOS to address these weapon stats. How hard can it be to just add the 1 pc stats to the items?
What ever do you mean?
Where's ZOS going to find the time to buff anything when there's more stuff to be nerfed still?2 -
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JAwtunes✭✭✭✭MentalxHammer wrote: »Idk but endurance seems ridiculously op. How do we go from 193 stam recov to 618 hp recov?? I though it was a typo honestly.
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✭✭✭✭✭So if Zos buffed them much more we would have thread complaining they were to OP and have to be in every build.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MentalxHammer wrote: »Idk but endurance seems ridiculously op. How do we go from 193 stam recov to 618 hp recov?? I though it was a typo honestly.
I won't look a gift horse in the mouth!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭So if Zos buffed them much more we would have thread complaining they were to OP and have to be in every build.
Nope. You must work for ZOS secretly. If it’s not buffed by 13 weapon damage it must be 300 right? I mean there’s no way that like 20-40 would work right? ZOS hates that 10-20% buff sweet spot. I can already run arena weapons on my backbar and still get that benefit and have two 5 pc and a monster set on the front bar. Maybe if vMA weapons still had there damage bonus but there aren’t really any arena weapons worth giving up either a damage or sustain set active on either the front bar or backbar.2 -
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✭Yall hush up about Endurance now. I'm already dreaming of all the chromium I'm gonna get from deconning Beekeeper and Alessian jewelry
Edit: It'll be about 4 chromium dust or so, can't wait
Edited by Urzigurumash on September 18, 2019 12:51AMXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast1
