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So streak malus goes down to 33%

  • jecks33
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    i didn't find the daily "nerf sorcs post", then i finally find this one
    Edited by jecks33 on August 5, 2019 8:57AM
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  • Derra
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    Sarousse wrote: »

    By lowering the cost of streak malus, they're just encouraging people to flee even more instead of fightning, while other classes can't do nothing beside hiding behind rocks or in towers.

    Does anyone remembers when devs stated that they wanted streak to be a fighting tool rather than an escape tool, and that's why they did put in the malus ? Too bad we're going far away from this right now thanks to their decisions.

    Not really since they also removed the good ranged magica stun and effectively made sorc into a melee dd with streak.
    It is more of a fighting tool on pts.
    The issue is eso is a spam game and fighting with an ability that has increased cost on spamming doesn’t work.

    I still would have preferred a version where the cost doesn’t increase when you hit a target.
    Edited by Derra on August 5, 2019 8:59AM
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    I would like to put obligatory "nerf sorc" meme / joke here, but at this point, even if something is OP / Broken I wont "call for nerfs". Yep I am not a sorc main too...
    #StopNerfs
    #StartBuffs
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on August 5, 2019 9:10AM
  • Sarousse
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    Derra wrote: »
    I still would have preferred a version where the cost doesn’t increase when you hit a target.

    That's a really nice idea.

    Edited by Sarousse on August 5, 2019 9:12AM
  • ATomiX69
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    It used to have a 0% malus before they fixed the sprint streak bug :)
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  • Derra
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    ATomiX69 wrote: »
    It used to have a 0% malus before they fixed the sprint streak bug :)

    :joy: 😂😂
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  • DaoFeiLung
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    olsborg wrote: »
    Yea, but the OP @Sarousse is also one of the more tryharding ppl on EU server. Groups of 5-6+ ppl should be ashamed of themselves when they tryhard soloers for 5+ minutes. bleh

    We've been 6 once in 3 months :).

    The point is, yes we tryhard, because you can't trysoft nbs or sorcs if they're decent players.

    And since we hurt your feelings (I don't know who you are, what's your ingame name?), yes we Xv1, we Xv2, in fact we XvY!!!! ( x=2-6, y=1-20). I know, it's a shame to attack ennemy players in a pvp game :( . Maybe we should jump in front of Sej all day killing randoms while not attacking other "pro" smallscalers out of respect.
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    DaoFeiLung wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Yea, but the OP @Sarousse is also one of the more tryharding ppl on EU server. Groups of 5-6+ ppl should be ashamed of themselves when they tryhard soloers for 5+ minutes. bleh

    We've been 6 once in 3 months :).

    The point is, yes we tryhard, because you can't trysoft nbs or sorcs if they're decent players.

    And since we hurt your feelings (I don't know who you are, what's your ingame name?), yes we Xv1, we Xv2, in fact we XvY!!!! ( x=2-6, y=1-20). I know, it's a shame to attack ennemy players in a pvp game :( . Maybe we should jump in front of Sej all day killing randoms while not attacking other "pro" smallscalers out of respect.

    Yeah if you’re going out of your way to ruin the fun of someone who has no way in fighting back realistically- even if it is a pvp game - it still makes you a snippedy snap snup 😬

    It’s not pvp if the outcome is predetermined.
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  • heng14rwb17_ESO
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    U CANNOT CATCH ME !
  • Ashamray
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Guess it's going to be harder for your group to chase solos across the map, no problem with that.

    And here I lol'ed
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  • DaoFeiLung
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    I should start another thread because we're sidetracking this one, but "It’s not pvp if the outcome is predetermined." could apply to a lot of things in pvp, from a ganking nb to 24 man group attacking small groups. If a nb kills ( or try to) someone in my group, I should not chase him 4v1 because it s not fair?

    And when you kill a casual with you OP sorc you re not ruining his fun? I could say " go duel to alik'r if you want a fair fight", but my point is you can t really get fair fights and have fun for everyone everytime, the only rule we have as a guild is we attack every ennemy we see, and don't worry, we re wiped by zergs more often than we chase solos.
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    DaoFeiLung wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Yea, but the OP @Sarousse is also one of the more tryharding ppl on EU server. Groups of 5-6+ ppl should be ashamed of themselves when they tryhard soloers for 5+ minutes. bleh

    We've been 6 once in 3 months :).

    The point is, yes we tryhard, because you can't trysoft nbs or sorcs if they're decent players.

    And since we hurt your feelings (I don't know who you are, what's your ingame name?), yes we Xv1, we Xv2, in fact we XvY!!!! ( x=2-6, y=1-20). I know, it's a shame to attack ennemy players in a pvp game :( . Maybe we should jump in front of Sej all day killing randoms while not attacking other "pro" smallscalers out of respect.

    Oh im not talking regular tryhard here, im talking trying so hard that 5 players drop whatever they are doing and going full heatseaking missiles on 1 guy for I dunno, 5 or 10 minutes or more, that kinda "pvp" deserves *snip snip snip* :tired_face:

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  • Skander
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    I'll just accept as as mag necromancer or Magicka Dk with no choices for gap closer to lay down and wait till the sorcerer pokes kill me.
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Skander wrote: »
    I'll just accept as as mag necromancer or Magicka Dk with no choices for gap closer to lay down and wait till the sorcerer pokes kill me.

    Chains?
  • Araviel2
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    wait now what?
    though it was bolt escape that got the cost reduction, not streak?

    EDIT: sorry brain malfunction, was confusing bolt with Ball of Lightning morph
    Edited by Araviel2 on August 5, 2019 4:57PM
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Araviel2 wrote: »
    wait now what?
    though it was bolt escape that got the cost reduction, not streak?

    „Bolt Escape Fatigue (morph): Reduced the ramping cost increase from using Bolt Escape or its morphs to 33% per stack from 50% so it operates closer to Roll Dodge.“
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    Skander wrote: »
    I'll just accept as as mag necromancer or Magicka Dk with no choices for gap closer to lay down and wait till the sorcerer pokes kill me.

    Empowering Chains is quite good. What do you drop for it is always the issue.
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    Remove the penalty completely, double the range and make it omni-directional. Obviously remove the stun, make it a magical dodge so the Sorcerer has less reliance on shields.
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    Sorc do not need horse on wvw. Just chain streak with ranged imunity to most damage.
  • MashmalloMan
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    Remove the penalty completely, double the range and make it omni-directional. Obviously remove the stun, make it a magical dodge so the Sorcerer has less reliance on shields.

    Please stop making my mouth water.
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  • unclesheosnephew
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    I had someone use a gap closer while I was mounted(full mountspeed plus rapids+ wind running passive) and they were able to crit charge me until i was dismounted(full mount stam also) now that is something that I find strange but hey do I think they should change it no because I dont want false hopes
  • Insco851
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    Basically no difference considering they could already streak never endingly if they wanted. Considering the sustain issues- this was probably one way to actually help em.
    Edited by Insco851 on August 5, 2019 5:59PM
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    ZOS just needs to allow mounting in combat. Idk why they are so strongly against that.

    So the video shows them all running around on horseback? That seems pretty pointless.
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    idk wrote: »
    ZOS just needs to allow mounting in combat. Idk why they are so strongly against that.

    So the video shows them all running around on horseback? That seems pretty pointless.

    You are very vulnerable and can't use abilities while mounted so quite obvious everybody won't be running around on horse back
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    Look at the other side of the fence, I use Streak mostly offensively to stun and damage people, not run away. Should I be punished with a 50% increased cost for simply trying to fight back?

    the 50% stacking cost is too much. Dodge roll gets medium armor passives, CP cost reduction, Armor trait cost reduction, etc.

    The magic cost reduction was removed from CP, and there is no armor trait cost reduction like dodge roll has. Streak should be at 33% not 50% because that puts it in line properly with dodge roll where it should be. 50% was far too punishing to use the skill, especially when using it in an offensive fashion.
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    Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

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  • universal_wrath
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    Sarousse wrote: »
    Don't miss the point of my post by attacking my video with pointless arguments (tank character, no gap closer, l2p, etc...).

    I could provide a video with gap closers, 45k stamina, 2k regen, warrior's guild crossbow and still not be able to catch a smart chain streaking sorc thanks to bad game mechanics, LoS problems and netcode.

    The point is that it's too easy right now in TESO to withdraw totally from a fight with literally no effort for a sorcerer or nightblade.

    By lowering the cost of streak malus, they're just encouraging people to flee even more instead of fightning, while other classes can't do nothing beside hiding behind rocks or in towers.

    Does anyone remember when devs stated that they wanted streak to be a fighting tool rather than an escape tool, thus they did put in the malus ? Too bad we're going far away from this right now due to their decisions.

    Please do provide the video.
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    Look at the other side of the fence, I use Streak mostly offensively to stun and damage people, not run away. Should I be punished with a 50% increased cost for simply trying to fight back?

    the 50% stacking cost is too much. Dodge roll gets medium armor passives, CP cost reduction, Armor trait cost reduction, etc.

    The magic cost reduction was removed from CP, and there is no armor trait cost reduction like dodge roll has. Streak should be at 33% not 50% because that puts it in line properly with dodge roll where it should be. 50% was far too punishing to use the skill, especially when using it in an offensive fashion.

    You have 10% cost reduction from 5 pieces of light armor, 7% from being breton in your signature, 5% from sorc's passives... and you have them in no-CP too, while dodge-roll doesn't have any dodge roll cost reduction other then medium armor passive.
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    Skander wrote: »
    I'll just accept as as mag necromancer or Magicka Dk with no choices for gap closer to lay down and wait till the sorcerer pokes kill me.

    Dk has chains, they are gap closers depending on the morph you choose.
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    Look at the other side of the fence, I use Streak mostly offensively to stun and damage people, not run away. Should I be punished with a 50% increased cost for simply trying to fight back?

    the 50% stacking cost is too much. Dodge roll gets medium armor passives, CP cost reduction, Armor trait cost reduction, etc.

    The magic cost reduction was removed from CP, and there is no armor trait cost reduction like dodge roll has. Streak should be at 33% not 50% because that puts it in line properly with dodge roll where it should be. 50% was far too punishing to use the skill, especially when using it in an offensive fashion.

    You have 10% cost reduction from 5 pieces of light armor, 7% from being breton in your signature, 5% from sorc's passives... and you have them in no-CP too, while dodge-roll doesn't have any dodge roll cost reduction other then medium armor passive.


    Stamsorc is a thing and they tend to not use light armor. It's not like they use an abundance of class skills anyway. They could use a less steep cost increase on streak. I'm looking forward to it.
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on August 5, 2019 6:40PM
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Look at the other side of the fence, I use Streak mostly offensively to stun and damage people, not run away. Should I be punished with a 50% increased cost for simply trying to fight back?

    the 50% stacking cost is too much. Dodge roll gets medium armor passives, CP cost reduction, Armor trait cost reduction, etc.

    The magic cost reduction was removed from CP, and there is no armor trait cost reduction like dodge roll has. Streak should be at 33% not 50% because that puts it in line properly with dodge roll where it should be. 50% was far too punishing to use the skill, especially when using it in an offensive fashion.

    You have 10% cost reduction from 5 pieces of light armor, 7% from being breton in your signature, 5% from sorc's passives... and you have them in no-CP too, while dodge-roll doesn't have any dodge roll cost reduction other then medium armor passive.


    Stamsorc is a thing and they tend to not use light armor. It's not like they use an abundance of class skills anyway. They could use a less steep cost increase on streak. I'm looking forward to it.

    Oh, I have nothing against any buffs to stamsorc. This can be simply achieved by stam morph of streak with notably lower cost. Stamsorc can't stack 50k of stamina so it is not an issue and stamsorcs are using streak like intended.
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