So streak malus goes down to 33%

Sarousse · August 2019

Really ? LOL.

With 50% malus :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK9FHWExZe8

Can't wait to see this with 33% only.

Derra · August 2019

Hurrr durrr speaks the tank as it runs behind the sorc without a gapcloser slotted.
Streak op yo!

Sanctum74 · August 2019

Guess it's going to be harder for your group to chase solos across the map, no problem with that.

MartiniDaniels · August 2019

ZOS just needs to allow mounting in combat. Idk why they are so strongly against that.

TequilaFire · August 2019

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Guess it's going to be harder for your group to chase solos across the map, no problem with that.

Runaway Sues.

MartiniDaniels · August 2019

Derra wrote: »

Hurrr durrr speaks the tank as it runs behind the sorc without a gapcloser slotted.
Streak op yo!

And now imagine "tank" roll-dodged frags and sorc double-streaked in opposite direction in same moment. It's GG, gap closer will be out of range and take flight can't be spammed obviously. Imo they should cut distance of streak maybe to 12 meters (and slightly decrease cost to compensate), so it will be more combat tool then "runaway" tool.

Honestly, you look like experienced pvp-er, you truly believe that in 1v1-1v2 scenario gap closer can effectively counter streak? You may streak behind the LOS, you may cc before double-streaking, really only way to catch streaker is to outrun him (combined with gap closer) in case he was already very low on resources. Sometimes leap helps, but given that take flight is limited to 1 spec of 1 class and it is ultimate... If sorc has balanced sustain and withdraws "early" it is really low chance to catch him in 1v1-1v2 ( I don't imply that I can reliably win over skilled sorc in 1v1 so I honestly mention more likely 1v2 situations when you are fighting with sorc and somebody comes to help you and sorc withdraws or you came to help somebody and sorc withdraws).

Tbh, I even tempted to try hybrid sorc now, it may be fun with onslaught, frags, wrath and streak spam.

MashmalloMan · August 2019

I would of preferred a lower cost with +50% stacking than a higher cost with +33% stacking, but I'll take a win anywhere I can get it, will still be difficult to justify on a Stam Sorc using Dark Deal and Crit Surge.

Aedaryl · August 2019

This is a l2Build issue.

If you want to chase a sorc, slot a gap closer.

Sorc use a slot for escaping, you need to use a slot to chase.

Simple.

KingExecration · August 2019

Aedaryl wrote: »

This is a l2Build issue.

If you want to chase a sorc, slot a gap closer.

Sorc use a slot for escaping, you need to use a slot to chase.

Simple.

Cries for sorc cheese when spamming Frost reach root. I’d run away too getting blasted by clench spammer zergs

Derra · August 2019

KingExecration wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

This is a l2Build issue.

If you want to chase a sorc, slot a gap closer.

Sorc use a slot for escaping, you need to use a slot to chase.

Simple.

Cries for sorc cheese when spamming Frost reach root. I’d run away too getting blasted by clench spammer zergs

It be fair - Magica warden and necro lack the tools to ever catch a sorc - which is a major flaw in their design not the sorcs.
I get why ppl would get angry at that though.

enzoisadog · August 2019

Xv1er getting mad because a sorc got away LUL

Zevrro · August 2019

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS just needs to allow mounting in combat. Idk why they are so strongly against that.

Probably because that would be terrible. Everyone would just mount up and run from combat.

ebix_ · August 2019

thanks god someone mentioned it too ... just for the ppl to understand this , go make a sorc then put streak and Dark Exchange in your bar . and use x3 streaks then x2 Dark Exchange (cost penalty is gone by end of your second cast and your mag is back to full again.. ) then streak 3 times and your stam is back to full and repeat . this is stupid , what does cost penalty means if they have a way for infinite sustain . instead of penalty cost they should nerf travel distance by 3-4 meters for each stack ..

J18696 · August 2019

If a sorc wants to streak away like that just let them they can sit in a field alone like a sad person

MartiniDaniels · August 2019

Zevrro wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS just needs to allow mounting in combat. Idk why they are so strongly against that.

Probably because that would be terrible. Everyone would just mount up and run from combat.

So fact that now 2 classes can do this at will and other 4 can't is ok?

By some strange coincidence those 2 classes fight between each other calling for 2nd place in PVP (claiming that other class is always 1st place and should be nerfed).

This is really cool. Everybody should have some kind of detection to fight nightblades and some kind of gap closer to have any chance to kill cautious sorc but slotting anti-wings abilities was considered burden and nonsence and led to the fact that we now have only 2 unique classes left and others are just re-colored versions of same with ton of dots but different passives.

Zevrro · August 2019

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Zevrro wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS just needs to allow mounting in combat. Idk why they are so strongly against that.

Probably because that would be terrible. Everyone would just mount up and run from combat.

So fact that now 2 classes can do this at will and other 4 can't is ok?
By some strange coincidence those 2 classes fight between each other calling for 2nd place in PVP (claiming that other class is always 1st place and should be nerfed).

This is really cool. Everybody should have some kind of detection to fight nightblades and some kind of gap closer to have any chance to kill cautious sorc but slotting anti-wings abilities was considered burden and nonsence and led to the fact that we now have only 2 unique classes left and others are just re-colored versions of same with ton of dots but different passives.

Big difference between nightblades and sorcerers being able to occasionally escape from fights and every single class running around on horses during combat. Unless mount based combat is introduced then I seriously can't understand why you think that would be a good idea.

MartiniDaniels · August 2019

J18696 wrote: »

If a sorc wants to streak away like that just let them they can sit in a field alone like a sad person

Cool story bro. And now imagine group of 3 sad lonely sorcs who just came to your little PvDoor or fun at Alessia's and start farming kills and streak away back to their sad loneliness luring small group of potatoes in a lil trap and in case of getting some shield melting attention just mist/streak away into horizon, turning back just to focus down any fool with gap closer who will try to slow down.

MartiniDaniels · August 2019

Zevrro wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Zevrro wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS just needs to allow mounting in combat. Idk why they are so strongly against that.

Probably because that would be terrible. Everyone would just mount up and run from combat.

So fact that now 2 classes can do this at will and other 4 can't is ok?
By some strange coincidence those 2 classes fight between each other calling for 2nd place in PVP (claiming that other class is always 1st place and should be nerfed).

This is really cool. Everybody should have some kind of detection to fight nightblades and some kind of gap closer to have any chance to kill cautious sorc but slotting anti-wings abilities was considered burden and nonsence and led to the fact that we now have only 2 unique classes left and others are just re-colored versions of same with ton of dots but different passives.

Big difference between nightblades and sorcerers being able to occasionally escape from fights and every single class running around on horses during combat. Unless mount based combat is introduced then I seriously can't understand why you think that would be a good idea.

I just don't want streak and cloak to be nerfed or removed like it happened with wings. Classes should be unique otherwise game will be boring as hell.

josh.lackey_ESO · August 2019

You know the "malus" only lasts 4 seconds. The sorc was waiting between streaks, 2 streaks and wait, 2 streaks and wait.

A change to 33% would not have affected the scenario in your video at all.

Cathexis · August 2019

What I see is that sorcs will now be 34% more fun.

The nerf hammer was way too hard on bolt, and there are going to be a ton of players who will be happy about this. Mobility on the sorc is in some ways its distinguishing identity.

Lyar09 · August 2019

Imagine complaining about not being able to Xv1 another player.

Hashtag_ · August 2019

Could you imagine complaining about not being able to Xv1 another player.

olsborg · August 2019

Yea, but the OP @Sarousse is also one of the more tryharding ppl on EU server. Groups of 5-6+ ppl should be ashamed of themselves when they tryhard soloers for 5+ minutes. bleh

ThePedge · August 2019

I use Ambush and most of the time still can't catch sorcs.

Gap closers are way too buggy.

Significantly reduce the cost and up the re-cast penalty.

And if anyone compares streak to a Stam char rolling 2m, don't.

MincVinyl · August 2019

Magden
~10k stam
~relying on frost clench spamming
~I'm going to assume little/no sprint cp
~cyrodil pots
~no netch
~not regen sprinting

Man I don't see any reason anyone would ever get away from you. Surely every opponent should just stand still when they fight you, why is there still mechanics for any sort of mobility in this game?

Aliyavana · August 2019

Complaining about an escape tool while xv1ing?

universal_wrath · August 2019

ebix_ wrote: »

thanks god someone mentioned it too ... just for the ppl to understand this , go make a sorc then put streak and Dark Exchange in your bar . and use x3 streaks then x2 Dark Exchange (cost penalty is gone by end of your second cast and your mag is back to full again.. ) then streak 3 times and your stam is back to full and repeat . this is stupid , what does cost penalty means if they have a way for infinite sustain . instead of penalty cost they should nerf travel distance by 3-4 meters for each stack ..

What if sorcs use it offensivily? After third streak they would be rooted by streak most likely. This skills is used both offensively and defensively. Nerfing it's distance would only make it useless as it's currently 15m and gap closers 22m. You don't use gap closers, that is on you. No gap general skill to gap close, start complaing about that one. Also, if you 1v1, most people won't run away, but 1vx is different matter. If you choose to gank solo with your group, make sure someone has a gap closer.

If you want to make the skill useless, i can ask for shimmer shields, as it nulify any range attack, not including the effect though, and it give major heroism. Cheap and no penalty. Stronger than former wings imo.

Rikumaru · August 2019

hahahahahhahahaha

Sarousse · August 2019

Don't miss the point of my post by attacking my video with pointless arguments (tank character, no gap closer, l2p, etc...).

I could provide a video with gap closers, 45k stamina, 2k regen, warrior's guild crossbow and still not be able to catch a smart chain streaking sorc thanks to bad game mechanics, LoS problems and netcode.

The point is that it's too easy right now in TESO to withdraw totally from a fight with literally no effort for a sorcerer or nightblade.

By lowering the cost of streak malus, they're just encouraging people to flee even more instead of fightning, while other classes can't do nothing beside hiding behind rocks or in towers.

Does anyone remember when devs stated that they wanted streak to be a fighting tool rather than an escape tool, thus they did put in the malus ? Too bad we're going far away from this right now due to their decisions.

Qbiken · August 2019

The day sorc (stam and mag) lose their mobility is the day the class will be truly dead.......

olsborg · August 2019

Sarousse wrote: »

The point is that it's too easy right now in TESO to withdraw totally from a fight with literally no effort for a sorcerer or nightblade.

It just sounds like you want it to be easier to Xv1 ppl, wich is what your group mostly does. 🤮