Although I like the idea of blue tier master writs being introduced, I have a feeling the blue tier grains and platings are going to go up in price.
mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Although I like the idea of blue tier master writs being introduced, I have a feeling the blue tier grains and platings are going to go up in price.
I feel like the blue platings are already super expensive now. Sigh. Zos please just get rid of grains and give us straight platings. That would help.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »[*] Do you feel these writs are worth completing?
So, I lied... I decided to quickly do some JC writs... Got this.
This is probably the maximum that a blue jewelry master writ would be worth. 9-trait to craft, rare trait (swift and infused are the highest on LIVE).
The Gilding wax to make a swift ring costs 20 vouchers.
So, a net of 10 vouchers... at a cost of still over 10k to complete (at PC/NA prices)... so this one is a definite "NO" (This is like doing Epic Prismatic or Legendary Provisioning... not worth it)
Now, if Infused or some of the other "rare" traits are also 30 vouchers for this.. then those (at a cost of about 12k for the 30 vouchers), those would be plausible to do.
Although I would expect the prices of the green/blue/purple materials to actually go up in cost since there will now be more usage of them, without any increase in drops, since there is no jewelry hireling like there is for the other crafts.
Dusk_Coven wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »[*] Do you feel these writs are worth completing?
The main reason they were not worth completing was the cost of the tempers on the PLAYER-CONTROLLED market.
IF the drop rate on tempers continues to force player to buy from the Guild Stores to complete any reasonable amount of writs,
AND if the PLAYERS continue to increase the price of the tempers (maybe because now the Writs are more rewarding),
THEN Jewelry writs will in the long term become not-profitable again, once prices of tempers go up.
However, the drop rates from refining are IDENTICAL to the other crafts.
Dusk_Coven wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »[*] Do you feel these writs are worth completing?
The main reason they were not worth completing was the cost of the tempers on the PLAYER-CONTROLLED market.
IF the drop rate on tempers continues to force player to buy from the Guild Stores to complete any reasonable amount of writs,
AND if the PLAYERS continue to increase the price of the tempers (maybe because now the Writs are more rewarding),
THEN Jewelry writs will in the long term become not-profitable again, once prices of tempers go up.
All the other materials are in the same market as well. Yes, jewelry doesn't have a hireling, that hurts. However, the drop rates from refining are IDENTICAL to the other crafts. They are lower for completing writs 20% vs 30% for the other crafts. Let's focus on the relative value compared to the current prices, rather than rehashing this same old argument over and over.. please.
Dusk_Coven wrote: »However, the drop rates from refining are IDENTICAL to the other crafts.
Let me change that to "availability of full unit".
For jewelry plating I have less than 10% of the gold tempers in the other crafts. AND in those crafts I even give away some or trade away some or use to craft multiple master writs or upgrade my gear. I have never bought any gold tempers. Period.
To date I have done only 1 Legendary Jewelry Writ and my count is still stupidly low.
By "drop rate" I don't mean any particular source. I mean ability to procure full units.
Dusk_Coven wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »[*] Do you feel these writs are worth completing?
The main reason they were not worth completing was the cost of the tempers on the PLAYER-CONTROLLED market.
IF the drop rate on tempers continues to force player to buy from the Guild Stores to complete any reasonable amount of writs,
AND if the PLAYERS continue to increase the price of the tempers (maybe because now the Writs are more rewarding),
THEN Jewelry writs will in the long term become not-profitable again, once prices of tempers go up.
All the other materials are in the same market as well. Yes, jewelry doesn't have a hireling, that hurts. However, the drop rates from refining are IDENTICAL to the other crafts. They are lower for completing writs 20% vs 30% for the other crafts. Let's focus on the relative value compared to the current prices, rather than rehashing this same old argument over and over.. please.
Identical to other crafts? There's an extra refining process with jewelry so the plating is 10x as rare. When you also consider the cost/drops of trait stones they will never be cost effective to do unless they get rid of the extra refining process or increase the drop rate.
mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Although I like the idea of blue tier master writs being introduced, I have a feeling the blue tier grains and platings are going to go up in price.
I feel like the blue platings are already super expensive now. Sigh. Zos please just get rid of grains and give us straight platings. That would help.
Dusk_Coven wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »[*] Do you feel these writs are worth completing?
The main reason they were not worth completing was the cost of the tempers on the PLAYER-CONTROLLED market.
IF the drop rate on tempers continues to force player to buy from the Guild Stores to complete any reasonable amount of writs,
AND if the PLAYERS continue to increase the price of the tempers (maybe because now the Writs are more rewarding),
THEN Jewelry writs will in the long term become not-profitable again, once prices of tempers go up.
All the other materials are in the same market as well. Yes, jewelry doesn't have a hireling, that hurts. However, the drop rates from refining are IDENTICAL to the other crafts. They are lower for completing writs 20% vs 30% for the other crafts. Let's focus on the relative value compared to the current prices, rather than rehashing this same old argument over and over.. please.
Identical to other crafts? There's an extra refining process with jewelry so the plating is 10x as rare. When you also consider the cost/drops of trait stones they will never be cost effective to do unless they get rid of the extra refining process or increase the drop rate.
see above post. not typing it out again.
Although I like the idea of blue tier master writs being introduced, I have a feeling the blue tier grains and platings are going to go up in price.
mustangmorgan31 wrote: »
I feel like the blue platings are already super expensive now.
Now... supply is still an issue, prices will go up as people use them.