Iskiab wrote: »

stpdmonkey wrote: »

I go into bgs on occasion on my pve toon. Ww are my target when I see them being played as it commonly is a kill for me. Yeah they get me sometimes. But in an overall average I'd say I'm 2 to 1 kill ratio on them.

Yea, I saw this thread with new posts and thought it might be a complaint thread.

Were WWs nerfed? They seem nowhere as effective and on the weaker side now. If WWs are happy then all good, but that was my impression.

Pack leader was extra nerfed, berserker was sort of buffed

Qbiken wrote: »

jediodyn_ESO wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

stpdmonkey wrote: »

I go into bgs on occasion on my pve toon. Ww are my target when I see them being played as it commonly is a kill for me. Yeah they get me sometimes. But in an overall average I'd say I'm 2 to 1 kill ratio on them.

Yea, I saw this thread with new posts and thought it might be a complaint thread.

Were WWs nerfed? They seem nowhere as effective and on the weaker side now. If WWs are happy then all good, but that was my impression.

Pack leader was extra nerfed, berserker was sort of buffed

Berserker was significantly buffed......

Only players that I still see using Pack Leader in PvP are console players, and afaik that's because targeting on console is more clunky than on PC.

Maybe it shouldn't be reduced to a buff. (but i agree that for "us", it is one)

I think the big picture is that that the bleed change :
- Made the ceiling higher, with a higher possible output if you can maintain bleed up-time along skills and heavy attacks
- Made the floor lower, with a lower guaranteed output from light attack spam
- Changed werewolf gameplay/rotations according to the two previous points