I believe c0da is referenced in clockwork city. People like Bruccius are finite players. There’s an A and B. He’s literally a NPC. He holds onto his sense of self and time. He hasn’t shed his sleeve yet. Eyes half closed watching shadows on a cave wall. He points to his history books and says “look it says so right here”, even as those books become dust in his palms, even as his palms become dust in the stars. The tower must be viewed on his own. Lore is a papery cicada shell in the mouth of a cat. A finite insect in the maw of a greater creature.
@bruccius did someone steal your sweetroll friend? We are merely whispers in a shouting match.
Where you enjoy concrete lore, others enjoy the potential of lore. Especially in a fictional world. Even in the real world, narrative is fraught with error and the same stench of romanticism you detest.
I for one enjoy Kirkbride. And your attempt to try and shame me for liking someone you dislike is laughable. There is so much brilliant fanfic out there spawning things such as ‘the wheels of lull’ as well as other user created stuff.
Reality is far more flexible than all your seeming may suggest.
Also I am excited to see what else ZoS as well as future loremasters do with Kirkbride’s material. It’s inescapable whether you like it or not.
@Bruccius nobody said it was divine mandate — it’s ok to not like something, it’s ok to be rubbed the wrong way or to feel like something is rubbish. And no, it’s not just Kirkbride I put on a pedestal, but the whole community who’ve created so much content outside of ‘official lore’. There’s so much out there that surpasses some of the stuff that is official. I agree with the loremasters who have pretty much echoed each other, the lore is ours.
Your Nerevarine might have gone to Akavir, but mine is definitely unlocking the mysteries of the Aurbis.
Please don’t dictate what my Nerevarine is doing. Next you’ll be saying you’re the only Vestige. The only Dragomborn ect.
But that’s not what Schick was saying at all. He was actually part of (and still is) in a Facebook group I belong to. And although he would never get too specific about lore related things (precisely because so much of it is in the air), he has iterated numerous times the lore belongs to the community. Kirkbride also said the same. Even Tuttle too when he was first introduced as the new loremaster, although acknowledging the idea of ‘lore proper’ states that lore especially in elder scrolls, is not as constrictive as you make it out to be.
All that exists is my Nerevarine. “The”, means little when my experience is the only experience that is valid when it comes to ‘canon’. As it should be for everyone.
But please continue with your inability to understand TES lore. It’s humorous. All lore -masters even Tuttle in his introduction to the community stated the lore should always be debatable, if they get too objective then they fail at their story telling. But you probably wouldn’t know that because you’re too busy talking to the mirror and trying to create objective truths out of a fictional world. The lore community strives because it’s built on debate and potentiality. Bethesda definitely encourages modding and storytelling. We have the people over at the imperial library creating awesome fanfic. I can appreciate your need to have ‘lore-proper’, but again it is counter intuitive to what the community is about and has been about since it’s inception.
I like to think the Nerevarine was turned into a werewolf on Solstheim, after the fall of the Tribunal. In his or her shame, the Nerevarine left Tamriel, not wanting to spoil the hortator name or the deeds recently performed.
The Nerevarine is Indoril Nerevar; whatever mind and body existed in those times.
The (false) Incarnate is a Hero led to become The Nerevarine but is NOT Indoril Nerevar.
You may find a painting or picture of Indoril Nerevar being impaled in the spine by Vivec, and his Wife, Almalexia, removing his feet with a blade, by the ankles as Lord Vivec holds him high with his greatsword. Sotha Sil holds the mask of Dagoth Ur who has fallen in this picture.
Indoril Nerevar was banished. Not murdered.