MipMip wrote: »

Now faction lock is here and it's so off-putting to have these non-sensical locks that it really spoils the excitement there could be with the new class, new area, etc

I hope ZOS will remove them soon again!

And I hope, and will advocate for, faction locks in all campaigns. It doesn't make sense to allow cheaters to earn the same rewards as legitimate players.

Elong wrote: »

This is getting stale af. Honestly just close these faction lock threads, the decision has been made, it's pointless arguing with brick walls.

A decision has been made, but this isn't the final development... once faction locks are shown to be beneficial, we can argue that they should be in place for all campaigns.

One thing that would fix some of PVP, would just give every month to all CP160, 50 Transmute Crystals per Toon, it would made a lot of people stop going on Cyrodiil on all character just for that, or put it in another place like every 28-day of Daily Rewards Calendar

Faction locks is great

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

Glad we finally have the faction locks back, we really should push for alliances back to revert one tamriel so we can enjoy the game the way it was intended to be played when it was first released

It will be some time alot of people still level their necros, and do they new content... but im hopfull, iwe even seen some old old people comming back...

The_Shadowborn wrote: »

LMAO come on the people that have made chars on other alliances have mainly done it to find better fights.

Make it so faction lock works so its leaderboard based, so if I lock to EP I can't be on the AD/DC leaderboards and hell even slash AP gain on those factions too if you haven't locked to it, 50%+ decrease in AP gains. Most players that are decent enough to be moving around looking for fights already have millions and millions of AP.

No !

If people want to play with friends, wouldn't an unlocked campaign suffice? Locking campaigns should make it more competitive. I believe one should stick to their team/alliance, without flipping for any reason.

ZoS needs to add a 7 day noCP campaign for the population that wants an unlocked noCP campaign.

MipMip wrote: »

BlackMadara wrote: »

If people want to play with friends, wouldn't an unlocked campaign suffice? Locking campaigns should make it more competitive. I believe one should stick to their team/alliance, without flipping for any reason.

ZoS needs to add a 7 day noCP campaign for the population that wants an unlocked noCP campaign.

@BlackMadara an alliance is not a team by any definition that I know - it is a large mass of players most of whom do not know each other. Locking the factions doesn't make PvP more competitive but rather the contrary as it prevents groups / raids from going where the best fights can be had (usually on the underdog side)

An alliance is greater than a team. It is a collection of teams all fighting for a common goal under one banner. Some of these teams will never see or know each other as you point out, and yet they still fight for the same thing. Their actions impact each other even if they are never side by side on the battlefield. This is what makes AvAvA so much more grand than small scale team based pvp. It overarches it.

Yes this is only a game, but it is a game about a war, the 3 banner war. Faction hopping allows individuals, and small groups of individuals to throw that whole concept of the war under the bus so that they can pursue their own small skirmishes wherever and whenever they want. Cyrodiil is not small scale pvp it is large scale pvp across all time zones. It allows for small scale pvp but should not cater to it. The more it caters to it the more it undermines its large scale tenets. Faction locking is the first great step to making Cyrodiil a meaningful large scale AvAvA experience.

I'm casual PVP and I like what they've done with faction locks. But I wonder if maybe they should have faction locked the 7 day campaigns instead. That way if you want to jump around a little you could do that each time there's a reset and it wouldn't be for a whole month.

What I think we're going to see on locked 30 day campaigns is that over time the strongest faction will only get stronger. People are going to see the pop bars and bring in whatever matches the strongest team. So lots of action the first week and then whoever can establish themselves as the strongest will just run the map and everyone else will just quit trying.

Elong wrote: »

Miriel wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Miriel wrote: »

Thats not my problem, again alot of people DONT want to play with faction hopping... ZOS fixes this... and no your not forced to do anything, you can play with likeminded on the servers that dosent have faction locks...

To give you a example this is your reasoning, i want to pvp, but i have no peopel to pvp with, so lets force all pve peopel to pvp also ?... do you understand that people have difren preference off play ?

wut?

If I read the above correctly, my problem is I am spoilt for choice for people to play with.

Miriel wrote: »

I hav a preference, like alot of other people, we dont wat to play with faction hoppers, now what you do, is entirly up to you, you will have campaigns where you can faction hop inside, and what you do there i dont care...

Don't hate me because I have friends in different factions. Blame god for making me so damn lovable.

Given the lack of population (and this applies to off peak only, so large chunks of the world), I ask this hypothetical. When critical mass happens, and the map is painted, at that point you're either gating or gated, it doesn't matter, what are you going to do for PvP?

Again, don't suggest Shor. Or Sotha. They're PvDoor.

Thats still not my problem... you have a preference of play, deal with it, dont force others...

Why don't you take a dose of your own advice.

The hypocrisy is so real

Ranger209 wrote: »

MipMip wrote: »

BlackMadara wrote: »

If people want to play with friends, wouldn't an unlocked campaign suffice? Locking campaigns should make it more competitive. I believe one should stick to their team/alliance, without flipping for any reason.

ZoS needs to add a 7 day noCP campaign for the population that wants an unlocked noCP campaign.

@BlackMadara an alliance is not a team by any definition that I know - it is a large mass of players most of whom do not know each other. Locking the factions doesn't make PvP more competitive but rather the contrary as it prevents groups / raids from going where the best fights can be had (usually on the underdog side)

An alliance is greater than a team. It is a collection of teams all fighting for a common goal under one banner. Some of these teams will never see or know each other as you point out, and yet they still fight for the same thing. Their actions impact each other even if they are never side by side on the battlefield. This is what makes AvAvA so much more grand than small scale team based pvp. It overarches it.

Yes this is only a game, but it is a game about a war, the 3 banner war. Faction hopping allows individuals, and small groups of individuals to throw that whole concept of the war under the bus so that they can pursue their own small skirmishes wherever and whenever they want. Cyrodiil is not small scale pvp it is large scale pvp across all time zones. It allows for small scale pvp but should not cater to it. The more it caters to it the more it undermines its large scale tenets. Faction locking is the first great step to making Cyrodiil a meaningful large scale AvAvA experience.

Meanwhile in PC NA: EP, on the most the most popular server that is the 30 day CP, now has all 6 scrolls and there's nothing any balance players can do since most of us home EP.

Faction lock has started with a bang. GG guys!

Sarcasm aside, hopefully balance can be made but I don't see that happening easy with month locks. Maybe if flexibility presents itself which most us old players agreed would be best if we would actually be heard...

***Edited to remove confusion. Before you ask, (and it was in the post before), we couldn't find it in any of us to leave EP.

Giraffon wrote: »

What I think we're going to see on locked 30 day campaigns is that over time the strongest faction will only get stronger. People are going to see the pop bars and bring in whatever matches the strongest team. So lots of action the first week and then whoever can establish themselves as the strongest will just run the map and everyone else will just quit trying.

Exactly - boring.

ellahellabella wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Miriel wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Miriel wrote: »

Thats not my problem, again alot of people DONT want to play with faction hopping... ZOS fixes this... and no your not forced to do anything, you can play with likeminded on the servers that dosent have faction locks...

To give you a example this is your reasoning, i want to pvp, but i have no peopel to pvp with, so lets force all pve peopel to pvp also ?... do you understand that people have difren preference off play ?

wut?

If I read the above correctly, my problem is I am spoilt for choice for people to play with.

Miriel wrote: »

I hav a preference, like alot of other people, we dont wat to play with faction hoppers, now what you do, is entirly up to you, you will have campaigns where you can faction hop inside, and what you do there i dont care...

Don't hate me because I have friends in different factions. Blame god for making me so damn lovable.

Given the lack of population (and this applies to off peak only, so large chunks of the world), I ask this hypothetical. When critical mass happens, and the map is painted, at that point you're either gating or gated, it doesn't matter, what are you going to do for PvP?

Again, don't suggest Shor. Or Sotha. They're PvDoor.

Thats still not my problem... you have a preference of play, deal with it, dont force others...

Why don't you take a dose of your own advice.

The hypocrisy is so real

Ranger209 wrote: »

MipMip wrote: »

BlackMadara wrote: »

If people want to play with friends, wouldn't an unlocked campaign suffice? Locking campaigns should make it more competitive. I believe one should stick to their team/alliance, without flipping for any reason.

ZoS needs to add a 7 day noCP campaign for the population that wants an unlocked noCP campaign.

@BlackMadara an alliance is not a team by any definition that I know - it is a large mass of players most of whom do not know each other. Locking the factions doesn't make PvP more competitive but rather the contrary as it prevents groups / raids from going where the best fights can be had (usually on the underdog side)

An alliance is greater than a team. It is a collection of teams all fighting for a common goal under one banner. Some of these teams will never see or know each other as you point out, and yet they still fight for the same thing. Their actions impact each other even if they are never side by side on the battlefield. This is what makes AvAvA so much more grand than small scale team based pvp. It overarches it.

Yes this is only a game, but it is a game about a war, the 3 banner war. Faction hopping allows individuals, and small groups of individuals to throw that whole concept of the war under the bus so that they can pursue their own small skirmishes wherever and whenever they want. Cyrodiil is not small scale pvp it is large scale pvp across all time zones. It allows for small scale pvp but should not cater to it. The more it caters to it the more it undermines its large scale tenets. Faction locking is the first great step to making Cyrodiil a meaningful large scale AvAvA experience.

Meanwhile in PC NA: EP, on the most the most popular server that is the 30 day CP, now has all 6 scrolls and there's nothing any balance players can do since most of us home EP.

Faction lock has started with a bang. GG guys!

Sarcasm aside, hopefully balance can be made but I don't see that happening easy with month locks. Maybe if flexibility presents itself which most us old players agreed would be best if we would actually be heard...

***Edited to remove confusion. Before you ask, (and it was in the post before), we couldn't find it in any of us to leave EP.

The best way to show that a policy is bad is to adhere to it.

Seeing the main 30 day campaign fall flat on its face as a one sided mess is something I would be happy to see, as it would be proof of what's been said over the past several weeks.

i love the faction locks. i hope it stays.
i hated seeing one side win everything, then they all logg out and logg back into the other side and win everything back in one HUGE zerg.

Haashhtaag wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

i love the faction locks. i hope it stays.
i hated seeing one side win everything, then they all logg out and logg back into the other side and win everything back in one HUGE zerg.

You hate seeing pvp?

Don't bring logic into this....