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Experiencing cheat engine for the 1st time
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.0 -
damtotb16_ESO✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I will not read trough all the comments, just because I already know some smart people will try to rationalize how there is no such a thing as script/macro usage etc. However I wholeheartedly agree with you
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I have never seen anyone this blatant, 5 frag in 12 second is cheat.
The chance to get five procced Frags in a row *once* is about 1/200. That's not unlikely to happen within a few hours of combat.
Not how that works...
That's exactly how it works. A chance of 1:200, or 0.5%, to get a Frag proc from using a magica skill five times in a row, given you fire the frag every time of course. Btw, the chance to get no proc five times in a row is 11%.
I stopped using that skill when it lost its stun, but I well remember such streaks of good and bad luck happening.
On top of that, ZOS' (pseudo-)RNG seems to somehow cluster events. I see this a lot when refining materials or opening loot boxes in quick succession. As an extreme example, I got five gold pieces of Marksman's jewellery from one campaign end reward a few years ago.
Yeah, that's the issue: Something about how the Random Number Generator works is streaky as hell.
It often feels as if the RNG call has a cooldown and if you manage to make a second call in this time window, it just returns the same draw again. From the hundreds of RotW Geodes I opened, I never got the max amount of 25 crystals. Until last week, where I got 25 twice in a row. Well, not really, since the larger part of the second bunch was eaten by the inventory limit.
If there is such a RNG cooldown, it's probably once again latency screwing things up.
Yeah, cooldown is a theory I've never found particularly compelling. It's just, so weird, and then if it was a rule, it doesn't seem to apply consistently, leading to the idea that it's not real.
There are some hidden cooldowns, like boss drops having a 3 or 4m cooldown. That was implemented to counter the bots that swarmed delves at launch. But, the idea that you can only get one page from a certain motif every 45 minutes, or something similar just doesn't track.0 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Man frag has nearly 100% uptime for every rotation. It’s silly. The auto break stuff... idk some folks are just on point with their mechanics.
No it really doesnt.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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reprosal✭✭✭✭✭People would be shocked at what can be done with packet injection. Whether or not ZoS monitors it is another issue altogether.2
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Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭People would be shocked at what can be done with packet injection. Whether or not ZoS monitors it is another issue altogether.
Which is why running the executable is all that is needed at many gamesites for a lifetime ban.
Just about any aspect of game mechanics can be changed with it.Edited by Skwor on April 30, 2019 1:55PM2 -
Imperial_Voice✭✭✭✭✭
✭This post and posts like it are why nobody takes actual cheating seriously. OP was killed by a legitimate build that uses high uptime frags and decides that without any proof whatsoever it was cheat engine.2 -
Karm1cOne✭✭✭✭✭This game has a history with cheaters. Whether ZOS has fixed this is up in the air. They won't say and cheaters won't either. So now there is this air of suspicion. We know it happened at one time, does it still? I think we've all seen odd things. But is that a cheat? Only ZOS knows for sure, and they aren't talking.4 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.
5^5 = 3125, more like 1 in 3125 chance, do ur math2 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭Imperial_Voice wrote: »This post and posts like it are why nobody takes actual cheating seriously. OP was killed by a legitimate build that uses high uptime frags and decides that without any proof whatsoever it was cheat engine.
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Imperial_Voice✭✭✭✭✭
✭LeagueTroll wrote: »Imperial_Voice wrote: »This post and posts like it are why nobody takes actual cheating seriously. OP was killed by a legitimate build that uses high uptime frags and decides that without any proof whatsoever it was cheat engine.
nothing legit about frag always proc
Except that it has a high uptime and getting it to proc repeatedly in a single fight is pretty common. But yeah, totally it was cheat engine. No way you couldve died to anything legit.Edited by Imperial_Voice on April 30, 2019 3:59PM1 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.
5^5 = 3125, more like 1 in 3125 chance, do ur math
It's 35% to proc not 20% so maybe before doing math You should check Your data. 20% is bonus damage ability gets when it procs. Seriously You start a thread without even knowing basics and then You lecture people ?...Edited by Juhasow on April 30, 2019 4:16PM4 -
Imperial_Voice✭✭✭✭✭
✭LeagueTroll wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.
5^5 = 3125, more like 1 in 3125 chance, do ur math
It's 35% to proc so maybe before doing math You should check Your data.
Neeeeeerrrrrrrd fiiiiiiiiiiigght4 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
* Perfect weave - Practice. Its not rocket science.
* Frag is always ready - It has a high uptime, try playing the class sometime. Except for that one freaking time you need it.
* Auto break-free - You can bind it to a button. . .
* Auto Dodge - You can bind it to a button as well. . .
Course the username. . .
This is why I have told OP it is best to report to Zos and let them figure it out. It is easy on PC to grab a video of the last 5 minutes to show to Zos.
Many players are just plain good players.
Yes, I have seen clear signs of macro use. LOL. Gankers that do a set attack and if it does not kill the player they just hide. That happens so much of the time when someone tries to gank me near a keep under attack. I laugh knowing it is an unskilled player that needs the PC to play the game for them.
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Imperial_Voice wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.
5^5 = 3125, more like 1 in 3125 chance, do ur math
It's 35% to proc so maybe before doing math You should check Your data.
Neeeeeerrrrrrrd fiiiiiiiiiiigght
There is nothing nerdy in ground school math or in reading tooltip of ability before making thread about it. It's just something everybody should know before starting thread like this. OP definietly have missed tooltip part. And then because of people like him nobody takes exploiting seriously when it happens.Edited by Juhasow on April 30, 2019 4:26PM2 -
Imperial_Voice✭✭✭✭✭
✭Imperial_Voice wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.
5^5 = 3125, more like 1 in 3125 chance, do ur math
It's 35% to proc so maybe before doing math You should check Your data.
Neeeeeerrrrrrrd fiiiiiiiiiiigght
There is nothing nerdy in ground school math or in reading tooltip of ability before making thread about it. It's just something everybody should know before starting thread like this. OP definietly have missed tooltip part. And then because of people like him nobody takes exploiting seriously when it happens.
*inhales deeply* NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRDD
okay im done, seriously though.Edited by Imperial_Voice on April 30, 2019 5:03PM0 -
Chicharron✭✭✭✭✭
✭Imperial_Voice wrote: »Imperial_Voice wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.
5^5 = 3125, more like 1 in 3125 chance, do ur math
It's 35% to proc so maybe before doing math You should check Your data.
Neeeeeerrrrrrrd fiiiiiiiiiiigght
There is nothing nerdy in ground school math or in reading tooltip of ability before making thread about it. It's just something everybody should know before starting thread like this. OP definietly have missed tooltip part. And then because of people like him nobody takes exploiting seriously when it happens.
*inhales deeply* NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRDD
okay im done, seriously though.
No ofense bro... BUUUT... someone who buys virtual doll houses can not call someone else nerd.Edited by Chicharron on May 1, 2019 12:35AM2 -
Goregrinder✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You're innocent until proven guilty. What evidence have you presented to prove this person guilty?0 -
Imperial_Voice✭✭✭✭✭
✭Chicharron wrote: »Imperial_Voice wrote: »Imperial_Voice wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »BloodMagicLord wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »I know macro is very common, met less than a dozen scripters (auto break free, auto dodge) in the last 2 year.
But today i encountered a guy cheating so blatantly I've never seen b4, guy just curse and frag is always ready after every curse.
This has to be a result of modify game files. On top of perfect weave, instant break free ofc.
Zos deal with these cheaters, actually ban them, also the no name and shame policy is stupid AF.
It is protecting the criminals.
I used to duel a lot on magicka nightblade, and I was accused of cheating or using macros very often because I nailed the weaving, rotation and was fast at reacting to my opponents.
I have never done either of these things however. People are often very quick to shout "cheat" when they lose and get salty. Nothing that you've said here indicates cheating necessarily and honestly the way its worded reminds me of a salty pvp rant.
What you said is 'perfect weave', there is nothing blatant about it, macro is very common.
What i saw is frag up after casting every other skills, 5 frags in 12 second is cheat.
Or just luck. There is ~0,5% chance to get 5 frag procs in a row but until chance is higher then 0 it's still possible. After all people are winning lotteries with way lower chances for succes.
5^5 = 3125, more like 1 in 3125 chance, do ur math
It's 35% to proc so maybe before doing math You should check Your data.
Neeeeeerrrrrrrd fiiiiiiiiiiigght
There is nothing nerdy in ground school math or in reading tooltip of ability before making thread about it. It's just something everybody should know before starting thread like this. OP definietly have missed tooltip part. And then because of people like him nobody takes exploiting seriously when it happens.
*inhales deeply* NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRDD
okay im done, seriously though.
No ofense bro... BUUUT... someone who buys virtual doll houses can not call someone else nerd.
Someone has a terrific sense of humor and isnt at all overly sensitive0 -
Cortimi✭✭✭✭✭I'm just over here on my Xbox One X enjoying great graphics and zero hackers.Xbox NA: Soviet Messiah
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Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭My frags lie to me. They tell me we have a proc so I push the button and my character starts hard casting frags. I tell him STOP! You are embarrassing us!
Like someone else said it is best to take a video and report it. Nothing will get accomplished on the forums.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault1 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Macro (script) can give you perfect rotation, it does not work in PvP outside of stuff like bombing as you are locked into the macro.
Now using it for LA weave don't have many downsides except then you need to block cast.
LA cancel weave macro is pretty common for PvE on pc, if some do an LA out to nowhere then doing an self buff while tank goes in.
That is an LA cancel animation in work.
I actually sometimes do that, and i don't have macros
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ShellaSunshine✭✭✭People are cheating in PvP and it seems to be even more common in BGs now than it ever has been in the last year.
Literally ran into a guy, Let's call him "T" (not his real name) and this guy was wearing absolutely no armor, had zero weapons, and was only using class skills.
He was completely unkillable. No matter what my team and I threw at him, he took no damage.
Could not be stunned.
Could not be knocked back.
And one shotted every single person on my team including me.
At the end of the match, he had 57 kills and 0 deaths.
I reported him every single time he did this because there is literally no way this is possible.
Not a single thing happened. I still see him during Daily BGs in Deathmatch. He only plays Deathmatch.
I even somehow ended up on HIS team and realized very quickly I wasn't taking any damage and neither was anyone else in the group. I literally stood still while people were attacking me and I wasn't dying.
I asked in group chat why I'm not taking damage and he replied, "just accept the win scrub."
I left immediately.
I now leave every time I see his @ name because I do not condone cheating or other players cheating.
Zenimax needs to wake up and add an anti-cheat to the game or at least just to PvP parts of the game.Edited by ShellaSunshine on May 1, 2019 4:48AM6 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm always amazed that, despite the regular videos of people undoubtedly, unequivocally cheating, there's a constant stream of people who deny every single accusation. Every single one. So they can manipulate every thing else bar the topic of conversation? Do some of you still believe in the Easter Bunny?
Every single game with any PvP attracts cheats.4 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm always amazed that, despite the regular videos of people undoubtedly, unequivocally cheating, there's a constant stream of people who deny every single accusation. Every single one. So they can manipulate every thing else bar the topic of conversation? Do some of you still believe in the Easter Bunny?
Every single game with any PvP attracts cheats.
Context matters. Most of the people here is not saying cheating not exists but that in this particular example it was not cheating and that You can get lucky crystal frag procs one by one. Also there is no video or any other proff in this case and and it would be kinda silly to judge this particular example based on other videos that are not even connected to this subject dont You think ? Yes cheating exist but so does vivid imagination and calling everything a cheating. Once again context matters.Edited by Juhasow on May 1, 2019 3:09PM1 -
laksikus✭✭✭✭✭
✭ShellaSunshine wrote: »People are cheating in PvP and it seems to be even more common in BGs now than it ever has been in the last year.
Literally ran into a guy, Let's call him "T" (not his real name) and this guy was wearing absolutely no armor, had zero weapons, and was only using class skills.
He was completely unkillable. No matter what my team and I threw at him, he took no damage.
Could not be stunned.
Could not be knocked back.
And one shotted every single person on my team including me.
At the end of the match, he had 57 kills and 0 deaths.
I reported him every single time he did this because there is literally no way this is possible.
Not a single thing happened. I still see him during Daily BGs in Deathmatch. He only plays Deathmatch.
I even somehow ended up on HIS team and realized very quickly I wasn't taking any damage and neither was anyone else in the group. I literally stood still while people were attacking me and I wasn't dying.
I asked in group chat why I'm not taking damage and he replied, "just accept the win scrub."
I left immediately.
I now leave every time I see his @ name because I do not condone cheating or other players cheating.
Zenimax needs to wake up and add an anti-cheat to the game or at least just to PvP parts of the game.
how can he have 57 kills in a deathmatch?2
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