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Necromancer first glance, little overpowered? (PvP)
Agis
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Anyone else think necro might be a little overtuned?
Some examples:
Flesh Colossus: A cheap 150 ult cost and aoe major vulnerability, also the frost cc on top. Imagine if sorc atro was this useful.
Boneyard: a frost aoe skill (cc) that applies both major fracture and breach. Can subassault even compete?
A BoL and a purge.
Good ultimate gain.
On top of this they have a free heal that grants major protection/ultimate and an armor buff that pulls automatically.
Battlegrounds are going to be interesting.
Some examples:
Flesh Colossus: A cheap 150 ult cost and aoe major vulnerability, also the frost cc on top. Imagine if sorc atro was this useful.
Boneyard: a frost aoe skill (cc) that applies both major fracture and breach. Can subassault even compete?
A BoL and a purge.
Good ultimate gain.
On top of this they have a free heal that grants major protection/ultimate and an armor buff that pulls automatically.
Battlegrounds are going to be interesting.
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yooqi✭✭✭I knew this post was coming as soon as I looked through the skills.Gwen Benele - Breton Templar
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭other classes just became 2nd class citizens,better be some buffs for them in release.8 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭150 isnt cheap.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!3 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What did you honestly expect? They might have a new combat team but ZOS is still ZOS. Now Wardens will be nerfed and the next year will be full of OP Necro threads and most likely rightly so.5 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Damn and I wanted to be the first to call for a nerf on skills that we really have no clue about.10 -
efster✭✭✭✭✭NB tanks: Please ZoS can we get a hard-CC morph of Fear, since fear can also freeze and not just send enemies fleeing
ZOS: Yeah that sounds good we'll put it on the necromancer
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casparian✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm not in the "Necro will be OP" camp for various reasons, but I do think this point is a big takeaway from the Necro reveal.Imagine if sorc atro was this useful.
Everything in the Necro kit is exciting. It doesn't have a single passive that I feel like I could go without unlocking. It offers all kinds of class synergy across the board. It offers numerous options for both stamina and magicka builds. That is how every class should be. If Necro comes out and other classes still have passives that are only useful for specific magicka builds (Light Weaver, Rebate, etc.) and still have underwhelming skills hardly anyone uses (Radiant Aura, Arctic Blast, etc.), it will take out a lot of the confidence I have in this combat team.
Even if Necro isn't the best class in the game, it's the best constructed. The PTS had better have some great things in store for templar, DK, warden, and sorcerer.7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.9 -
VixxVexx✭✭✭✭✭It seems like a lot of these skills are what other classes have (but better) or should have.10 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm not in the "Necro will be OP" camp for various reasons, but I do think this point is a big takeaway from the Necro reveal.Imagine if sorc atro was this useful.
Everything in the Necro kit is exciting. It doesn't have a single passive that I feel like I could go without unlocking. It offers all kinds of class synergy across the board. It offers numerous options for both stamina and magicka builds. That is how every class should be. If Necro comes out and other classes still have passives that are only useful for specific magicka builds (Light Weaver, Rebate, etc.) and still have underwhelming skills hardly anyone uses (Radiant Aura, Arctic Blast, etc.), it will take out a lot of the confidence I have in this combat team.
Even if Necro isn't the best class in the game, it's the best constructed. The PTS had better have some great things in store for templar, DK, warden, and sorcerer.
You know that's going to be the case though. Why? Because the necro needs to sell. I would really doubt we will see other classes brought up to anywhere near its level.3 -
gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorc still without any debuffs, even necro's got them. Major fracture and breach on 1 skill like Warden upon release?Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭theyve eliminated the use of alot of sets as well with this class. baharas curse/swarm mother
still see necropotence/alkosh/anything ulti generation as BiS. hopefully better sets coming with the release.2 -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I a gonna build a spin-2-win defile stamina necro and dance around Cyrodill٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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Daedric_NB_187✭✭✭✭✭I knew it. The nerf warriors are already starting. The class will be dead on arrival because of these people.7
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✭✭You can add the targetable pets too. That will be a big mess in the BGsBecause I can!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This is going to make organized groups in Cyrodiil even more powerful. So much group synergy in a class. And then there's that AoE instarez. lolwut?Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭other classes just became 2nd class citizens,better be some buffs for them in release.
I'm sure even an OP Necromancer can still get ganked by a Nightblade.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I knew this post was coming as soon as I looked through the skills.
It happens no matter what. People were asking if Warden was OP before any of its skills had been announced
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭fear-like CC
major breach/fracture
conal bash
swarm mother ability
30k health ulti
instant rez ulti
disgusting and nefarious, well it is a necromancer.2 -
Aznarb✭✭✭✭✭
✭In every game I've played when a new char is introduce (or new armor) dev can't resist to put in some power creep to make it shine to player.
So I'm not very shocked if necro come as a the strongest class when release.
He'll probably get balance in the futur if really it's to much.
But for now we don't even know all skill they gonna have (or am I missing something ?) so it's probably a bit to early to complain about.[ PC EU ]
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Hati✭✭✭Did you see the size of that Flesh? just imagine on pvp 3 or 4 of that, ahaha lucky that we don't get lag on pvp right? right...The one who hates.1 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭In every game I've played when a new char is introduce (or new armor) dev can't resist to put in some power creep to make it shine to player.
So I'm not very shocked if necro come as a the strongest class when release.
He'll probably get balance in the futur if really it's to much.
But for now we don't even know all skill they gonna have (or am I missing something ?) so it's probably a bit to early to complain about.
Here are all the skills.
https://www.docdroid.net/GHn5d53/necromancer-skills-and-passives.pdf
Thanks to @MaselBecause I can!3 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭"Ruinous Scythe: Enemies damaged by you receive 2000 heal absorption for 2 seconds, negating healing they receive. New effect: Converts to a stamina ability and prevents healing done to your target. (2524 Stamina)"
Spammable heal absorbtion
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Aznarb✭✭✭✭✭
✭In every game I've played when a new char is introduce (or new armor) dev can't resist to put in some power creep to make it shine to player.
So I'm not very shocked if necro come as a the strongest class when release.
He'll probably get balance in the futur if really it's to much.
But for now we don't even know all skill they gonna have (or am I missing something ?) so it's probably a bit to early to complain about.
Here are all the skills.
https://www.docdroid.net/GHn5d53/necromancer-skills-and-passives.pdf
Thanks to @Masel
Thanks you ![ PC EU ]
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