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New Trader System Needed!! Yes or No?
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ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)Sorry, i am not willing to spend over 30 mins or even few hours to check all guild traders over the world for the items price.
I prefer a faster system, central bazzer, just 1 click to show all selling item by different categories, time is money, whichever in game or real life.1 -
Kidgangster101✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »GarnetFire17 wrote: »Androconium wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »
Fair and AH do not belong in the same sentence. Most games with central auction houses have a handful of people that dominate and fix the market. Think of how much gold is burned into the current system each week. Millions upon millions of gold leave the system on traders. Remove that, centralized all posts and all you get is a dozen people picking an item or two each and buy everything out and gouge the market. Remember buying wax for 2k? Welcome to 6k. Why? Some guy has tens of millions to spend and they are going to buy out every cheap post and make thousands gouging.
That happens now - the only difference is they and their accomplices have to run around buying up the target item - say BA motif pages or cornflower - then post at their gouge price.
You come up with a trading system - any trading system - and there will always be multiple people in game who can and will manipulate it to profit themselves- sad but true.
At least with an AH, there are no dues, no farming to make sales requirements and an extra guild slot.
You're being blackmailed. If you get an email asking to pay dues, leave. Weekend sees other guilds recruiting again, after they kicked the non-compliant players from their guilds. See how ludicrous the situation is?
If you don't want to pay dues, find a guild that doesn't charge any there are plenty of them out there. There is also always zone chat WTS. Or just find a friend to hook you up with stuff from time to time. OR go farm what you need yourself. There is tons of ways to get and sell stuff in the game. Guild stores is just one way. It's a convenience they didn't have to put in the game, but some people just like to complain and are never happy I guess. I'd rather they don't put in a central AH. I would't like to see ZOS reward people who don't want to put forth any effort.
Your so elitists with your last comment lol. So because someone doesn't want to be in the middle of no where because their items won't sell, or because they would rather play the game that shout in zone chat trying to sell items, or maybe they don't play enough to pay 10k a week for good traders, or possibly it is because they can't meet certain sales a month that some guilds have.
Again NOT ALL OF US PLAY ON PC WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ADD-ONS. Stop saying console doesn't need a global AH because you guys are not playing the game the way it was designed. You don't have a flawed system. I guarantee you if zos banned players for using these add-ons all the pc players would see how flawed this system truely is and actually support it.
PC players did the same thing years ago. A lot of PC players believed and kept telling console players we didn't need text chat that we had headphones and voice chat so use that except they didn't know how terrible it was, but yet kept telling us we didn't need text chat at all. We felt like cavemen trying to play a video game.......
Now here it is same thing all over again. We are in the year 2019 and most of us play video games because we enjoy them. The adults on this game already work to pay bills so again why should we have to work in the game to pay bills to traders through dues or reaching a certain sales limit. And please stop for the love of God about join a free trader in the middle of no where. Why doesn't a pc player come to console and join a trader guild in the middle of no where and see how often your stuff actually sells. I can tell you now that add-on IS THE SAME AS HAVING A GLOBAL AH.
Ignore him, hes obviously doing his best to pick fights so this topic gets shut down.
No I'm actually not lol. I play on console and I want to honestly know what the difference between a global auction house and a guild trader system with add-ons so you can see every item just like a global AH is?
Please someone answer me because as a console player I do not have an add-on feature like PC players.0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭No way, I like it the way it is.Kidgangster101 wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »We need a free , fair central trading system .
There is nothing bad to the players , to be or not to be .
Fair and AH do not belong in the same sentence. Most games with central auction houses have a handful of people that dominate and fix the market. Think of how much gold is burned into the current system each week. Millions upon millions of gold leave the system on traders. Remove that, centralized all posts and all you get is a dozen people picking an item or two each and buy everything out and gouge the market. Remember buying wax for 2k? Welcome to 6k. Why? Some guy has tens of millions to spend and they are going to buy out every cheap post and make thousands gouging.
Remember how much everyone hates bots? They amplify that problem. ZoS will never stop bots no matter how hard they try (and let's be fair, they dont try that hard). Bots spam post cheap stuff and feed the fixers. The only defense we have about bots right now is that they cant really destroy our economy. The worst they can do right now is reduce prices by making mass sales for cheap in zone chat. Without a central AH we avoid the price fixing issue
You really don't, all not having a central AH is doing is making lowbie players get scammed by all the knowledgeable players seeing items for a cheap price and re selling it. If there was a central AH that player can look up said item and knows it is worth 150k and not to sell it to the guy trying to rip you off for 30k. (Yes i see this similar thing all the time in zone chat). The rich people get richer because they travel around the world buying everything cheap posted to guild traders and re selling them. One central AH solves that huge problem.
I can't tell you the last time I farmed for money. I travel the world let others farm my item I buy them for 800-2000 and sell them on my trader for 20-150k that isn't a fair system at all tbh.
Bots still exist and mess up the market no matter what system you use and price manipulation happens no matter what system you use except global AH makes everyone aware of a price.
Being scammed is called lacking common sense and ability to use resources.
As far as the rich getting richer? Its unbelievably easy on a central AH. I pointed that out. In the current system it is too difficult to truly dominate a market the same way an AH can.
Central AH doesn't let you know what something is worth, just what it is being fixed too.
So you benefit from people failing to research but seem to be against it? Or is it that you actually want your scamming to be easier?1 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭No way, I like it the way it is.notimetocare wrote: »
Fair and AH do not belong in the same sentence. Most games with central auction houses have a handful of people that dominate and fix the market. Think of how much gold is burned into the current system each week. Millions upon millions of gold leave the system on traders. Remove that, centralized all posts and all you get is a dozen people picking an item or two each and buy everything out and gouge the market. Remember buying wax for 2k? Welcome to 6k. Why? Some guy has tens of millions to spend and they are going to buy out every cheap post and make thousands gouging.
That happens now - the only difference is they and their accomplices have to run around buying up the target item - say BA motif pages or cornflower - then post at their gouge price.
You come up with a trading system - any trading system - and there will always be multiple people in game who can and will manipulate it to profit themselves- sad but true.
At least with an AH, there are no dues, no farming to make sales requirements and an extra guild slot.
To be honest. That is the point. It is difficult to gouge, but you also forget about posting limits that tend not to exist in central AH systems. The point it to make price fixing difficult.
Yea, instead you have easy price fixing and a massive bloat to gold in the system.0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭No way, I like it the way it is.Sorry, i am not willing to spend over 30 mins or even few hours to check all guild traders over the world for the items price.
I prefer a faster system, central bazzer, just 1 click to show all selling item by different categories, time is money, whichever in game or real life.
TCC. Problem solved. Next1 -
NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭Just keep a trader locked until next trader change if the guild that owns it disbands. Big guilds could still make dummy guilds, but selling traders wouldn't happen anymore.2
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Sylianwe✭✭✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)I have to admit, I voted for other.
Perhaps a global Auction House would be more beneficial than the current guild traders?Edited by Sylianwe on March 22, 2021 8:57PMThe mind is a walled garden, even death can not touch the flowers blooming there 🌹4 -
Kidgangster101✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)notimetocare wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »We need a free , fair central trading system .
There is nothing bad to the players , to be or not to be .
Fair and AH do not belong in the same sentence. Most games with central auction houses have a handful of people that dominate and fix the market. Think of how much gold is burned into the current system each week. Millions upon millions of gold leave the system on traders. Remove that, centralized all posts and all you get is a dozen people picking an item or two each and buy everything out and gouge the market. Remember buying wax for 2k? Welcome to 6k. Why? Some guy has tens of millions to spend and they are going to buy out every cheap post and make thousands gouging.
Remember how much everyone hates bots? They amplify that problem. ZoS will never stop bots no matter how hard they try (and let's be fair, they dont try that hard). Bots spam post cheap stuff and feed the fixers. The only defense we have about bots right now is that they cant really destroy our economy. The worst they can do right now is reduce prices by making mass sales for cheap in zone chat. Without a central AH we avoid the price fixing issue
You really don't, all not having a central AH is doing is making lowbie players get scammed by all the knowledgeable players seeing items for a cheap price and re selling it. If there was a central AH that player can look up said item and knows it is worth 150k and not to sell it to the guy trying to rip you off for 30k. (Yes i see this similar thing all the time in zone chat). The rich people get richer because they travel around the world buying everything cheap posted to guild traders and re selling them. One central AH solves that huge problem.
I can't tell you the last time I farmed for money. I travel the world let others farm my item I buy them for 800-2000 and sell them on my trader for 20-150k that isn't a fair system at all tbh.
Bots still exist and mess up the market no matter what system you use and price manipulation happens no matter what system you use except global AH makes everyone aware of a price.
Being scammed is called lacking common sense and ability to use resources.
As far as the rich getting richer? Its unbelievably easy on a central AH. I pointed that out. In the current system it is too difficult to truly dominate a market the same way an AH can.
Central AH doesn't let you know what something is worth, just what it is being fixed too.
So you benefit from people failing to research but seem to be against it? Or is it that you actually want your scamming to be easier?
Okay I'll try this again I guess please listen to what I'm saying here on this one statement.
PC has an add-on that shows them every single item listed in every single trader in the world. This add-on shows the rate of sales of that item plus what they are listed at.
A global AH lists every single item for sale, shows what their prices currently are, and shows their rate of sales.
What is the difference here? Seriously why should consoles be held back just because we can't use add-ons?3 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.Kidgangster101 wrote: »
Okay I'll try this again I guess please listen to what I'm saying here on this one statement.
PC has an add-on that shows them every single item listed in every single trader in the world. This add-on shows the rate of sales of that item plus what they are listed at.
A global AH lists every single item for sale, shows what their prices currently are, and shows their rate of sales.
What is the difference here? Seriously why should consoles be held back just because we can't use add-ons?
They only show what people with the addon have encountered. By that basic fact, we can also know it can't possibly list every item nor every price except what users tell it. It's also not instantly updated when sales happen, it doesn't allow buying out from one location, and some people will place convenience of location over pricing while others do the opposite.
TTC will show every listing including outliers, which isn't reflective of market values. MM and ATT only show your own guild's info, which doesn't reflect prices across different locations. Neither constitute a global system in any way even if the opt-in's allow for a pointer in the right direction0 -
ghastley✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)Any system can be improved. I'd like that improvement to be evolution, not revolution.0 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.Kidgangster101 wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »Kidgangster101 wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »We need a free , fair central trading system .
There is nothing bad to the players , to be or not to be .
Fair and AH do not belong in the same sentence. Most games with central auction houses have a handful of people that dominate and fix the market. Think of how much gold is burned into the current system each week. Millions upon millions of gold leave the system on traders. Remove that, centralized all posts and all you get is a dozen people picking an item or two each and buy everything out and gouge the market. Remember buying wax for 2k? Welcome to 6k. Why? Some guy has tens of millions to spend and they are going to buy out every cheap post and make thousands gouging.
Remember how much everyone hates bots? They amplify that problem. ZoS will never stop bots no matter how hard they try (and let's be fair, they dont try that hard). Bots spam post cheap stuff and feed the fixers. The only defense we have about bots right now is that they cant really destroy our economy. The worst they can do right now is reduce prices by making mass sales for cheap in zone chat. Without a central AH we avoid the price fixing issue
You really don't, all not having a central AH is doing is making lowbie players get scammed by all the knowledgeable players seeing items for a cheap price and re selling it. If there was a central AH that player can look up said item and knows it is worth 150k and not to sell it to the guy trying to rip you off for 30k. (Yes i see this similar thing all the time in zone chat). The rich people get richer because they travel around the world buying everything cheap posted to guild traders and re selling them. One central AH solves that huge problem.
I can't tell you the last time I farmed for money. I travel the world let others farm my item I buy them for 800-2000 and sell them on my trader for 20-150k that isn't a fair system at all tbh.
Bots still exist and mess up the market no matter what system you use and price manipulation happens no matter what system you use except global AH makes everyone aware of a price.
Being scammed is called lacking common sense and ability to use resources.
As far as the rich getting richer? Its unbelievably easy on a central AH. I pointed that out. In the current system it is too difficult to truly dominate a market the same way an AH can.
Central AH doesn't let you know what something is worth, just what it is being fixed too.
So you benefit from people failing to research but seem to be against it? Or is it that you actually want your scamming to be easier?
Okay I'll try this again I guess please listen to what I'm saying here on this one statement.
PC has an add-on that shows them every single item listed in every single trader in the world. This add-on shows the rate of sales of that item plus what they are listed at.
A global AH lists every single item for sale, shows what their prices currently are, and shows their rate of sales.
What is the difference here? Seriously why should consoles be held back just because we can't use add-ons?
You do not understand TTC at all.
1. TTC is easily manipulted and it happens all the time, TTC has actually caused pricing to increase.
2. Ask some people more in the know just how hard it is to find that low priced item in TTC, hint it is never there.
3. I see bulk items highballed then pulled all the time causing the average TTC price to go up.
4. Also seen lowballing to cheat a player on motifs in TTC
5. Some have even speculated TTC delays item reports to allow orhers with access to grab those items early.
All this and more would be 10 times worse with an AHEdited by Skwor on March 18, 2019 6:35PM1 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.notimetocare wrote: »
Fair and AH do not belong in the same sentence. Most games with central auction houses have a handful of people that dominate and fix the market. Think of how much gold is burned into the current system each week. Millions upon millions of gold leave the system on traders. Remove that, centralized all posts and all you get is a dozen people picking an item or two each and buy everything out and gouge the market. Remember buying wax for 2k? Welcome to 6k. Why? Some guy has tens of millions to spend and they are going to buy out every cheap post and make thousands gouging.
That happens now - the only difference is they and their accomplices have to run around buying up the target item - say BA motif pages or cornflower - then post at their gouge price.
You come up with a trading system - any trading system - and there will always be multiple people in game who can and will manipulate it to profit themselves- sad but true.
At least with an AH, there are no dues, no farming to make sales requirements and an extra guild slot.
Who says that there will be no dues or sales requirements in a global Auction House environment? You have to consider the gold sink here. ZOS will have to replace that some how. And they can do so several ways. Everything from charging players to use the AH, to increased repair costs to the point where you have to retemper your gear.
Like I said before, for a change like this to work ZOS would need to wipe the servers and restart everyone.0 -
todokete✭✭✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.Another thing that you want to fix and isn't broken0 -
DTStormfox✭✭✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.The current system works fine. It is one of the few systems that actually is controlled by us, the players.
As a buyer, you are in control mostly, because you look for the best price for items. As a seller, you have to compete within your own guild, but also with sellers from other guilds. You could compare the entire trading guild system as a franchise kind of construction. The more you (the seller) sell to the buyers, the better the position of your guild will be(come). It is a fair system. If you do not like large guilds owning the best positions, you should buy from smaller guilds in other locations. In that way, you (the buyer) can fund small guilds to grow.
Edited by DTStormfox on March 18, 2019 8:58PM0 -
Huyen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)We need a free , fair central trading system .
There is nothing bad to the players , to be or not to be .
What he said.Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
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wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.Androconium wrote: »wtlonewolf20 wrote: »UntilValhalla13 wrote: »Just have it like a general auction house at designated npcs. Take guilds out of the equation entirely. It's a pain having to run to each individual trader, in each individual zone, looking for one specific item, that can take hours. Give it a search bar and/or categories, and have the results show all of said item that anyone has listed, and the ability to filter them by price, etc.
There is not a single item in the traders that cannot be obtained by farming said item in game at some point. Since you still run around to each store you apparently are saying that it's still faster to do that than to farm said items.
Someone, somewhere, wants what you have for sale.
If they don't buy it, it's because you asked too much.
When selling items forget MM and TTC and ask yourself: "how much did I pay for this"?
if you find something and sell it for whatever; in a guild you don't pay any dues in; in a crappy location; you're still in front? Yes?
Yes exactly. To be honest if you really want to get a head in trading start a trade gold based around a core of highly dedicated farmers and traders. Then take over one of those remote spots and price competitively. Then send people out to advertise. If your consistent and keep the supply up then you can make millions. That's how most of the high roller trade guilds started and how they continue0 -
KatzMainTank✭✭✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)Androconium wrote: »UntilValhalla13 wrote: »Just have it like a general auction house at designated npcs. Take guilds out of the equation entirely. It's a pain having to run to each individual trader, in each individual zone, looking for one specific item, that can take hours. Give it a search bar and/or categories, and have the results show all of said item that anyone has listed, and the ability to filter them by price, etc.It's a pain having to run to each individual trader, in each individual zone, looking for one specific item, that can take hours.
Why on earth, would ZOS want to save you any time?
Their whole strategy is to keep you in-game for as long as possible
Exactly this.
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✭✭✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.I am surprised this thread has risen from the dead. The proposed idea was slammed and slammed hard.0 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No way, I like it the way it is.Kidgangster101 wrote: »GarnetFire17 wrote: »Androconium wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »
Fair and AH do not belong in the same sentence. Most games with central auction houses have a handful of people that dominate and fix the market. Think of how much gold is burned into the current system each week. Millions upon millions of gold leave the system on traders. Remove that, centralized all posts and all you get is a dozen people picking an item or two each and buy everything out and gouge the market. Remember buying wax for 2k? Welcome to 6k. Why? Some guy has tens of millions to spend and they are going to buy out every cheap post and make thousands gouging.
That happens now - the only difference is they and their accomplices have to run around buying up the target item - say BA motif pages or cornflower - then post at their gouge price.
You come up with a trading system - any trading system - and there will always be multiple people in game who can and will manipulate it to profit themselves- sad but true.
At least with an AH, there are no dues, no farming to make sales requirements and an extra guild slot.
You're being blackmailed. If you get an email asking to pay dues, leave. Weekend sees other guilds recruiting again, after they kicked the non-compliant players from their guilds. See how ludicrous the situation is?
If you don't want to pay dues, find a guild that doesn't charge any there are plenty of them out there. There is also always zone chat WTS. Or just find a friend to hook you up with stuff from time to time. OR go farm what you need yourself. There is tons of ways to get and sell stuff in the game. Guild stores is just one way. It's a convenience they didn't have to put in the game, but some people just like to complain and are never happy I guess. I'd rather they don't put in a central AH. I would't like to see ZOS reward people who don't want to put forth any effort.
Your so elitists with your last comment lol. So because someone doesn't want to be in the middle of no where because their items won't sell, or because they would rather play the game that shout in zone chat trying to sell items, or maybe they don't play enough to pay 10k a week for good traders, or possibly it is because they can't meet certain sales a month that some guilds have.
Again NOT ALL OF US PLAY ON PC WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ADD-ONS. Stop saying console doesn't need a global AH because you guys are not playing the game the way it was designed. You don't have a flawed system. I guarantee you if zos banned players for using these add-ons all the pc players would see how flawed this system truely is and actually support it.
PC players did the same thing years ago. A lot of PC players believed and kept telling console players we didn't need text chat that we had headphones and voice chat so use that except they didn't know how terrible it was, but yet kept telling us we didn't need text chat at all. We felt like cavemen trying to play a video game.......
Now here it is same thing all over again. We are in the year 2019 and most of us play video games because we enjoy them. The adults on this game already work to pay bills so again why should we have to work in the game to pay bills to traders through dues or reaching a certain sales limit. And please stop for the love of God about join a free trader in the middle of no where. Why doesn't a pc player come to console and join a trader guild in the middle of no where and see how often your stuff actually sells. I can tell you now that add-on IS THE SAME AS HAVING A GLOBAL AH.
I am in 5 guild traders. 1 in rawl. The other 4 in decent spots some in spots that dont see as much traffic as they used too due to chapters. But people come back and they buy. Why? We have good prices, good supply, and we have always been there. Oh and none of them have weekly dues. I'm sorry that it stinks on console, and maybe it would work better for you. But unfortunately ZOS insists that all servers be similar and mirror PC environment0 -
MrGarlic✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd like to see public access to ALL guild traders where anyone can list items on a trader owned (rented) by a trading guild.
A variable tax rate for guild members set to lower than public tax rate for listings could encourage guilds to rent the trader.
Set the limit to public listings to 10 or some other arbitrary number and to encourage membership of trading guilds, increase guild member listings to 50.
Also, make non-DLC group dungeon gear tradable again to encourage more people to venture into dungeons and hopefully make group finder waits shorter. That might also encourage veteran players to revisit old content.
Just my thoughts.
I've been playing this game for years and I am still dismayed at the fact that I HAVE to be a member of a trading guild to sell stuff to others.'Sharp Arrows'Mr.GarlicHidden by darkness, a shadow in the night,A sped arrow dissecting the gloom,Finding it's target, such delight.0 -
AndrewQ84✭✭✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)Central or Global Auction house.Sa'hira of the Shadows, DC Nightblade and ruins explorer extraordinaire.
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sethman75✭✭Love the game but the trading system is by far the worst part of the game.
You should not have to beg to join a guild just so you can sell your items on the market.
Searching for an item you are after is a major pain since it is broken up into hundreds of guilds.
I suggest they can keep the guilds for specialty items but introduce a common market where anybody can just show up to buy and sell items.
It really holds the game back
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✭RavenSworn wrote: »Im satisfied with the current system actually but I want something else to be added. A bazaar type of trading system where the 'group' allows free trading, for a limited time in a set city with any players being able to list out a limited number of items.
Perhaps the bazaar could start during the weekends only. This allows regular non trading guild players to list items while not affecting the main trading system. Once the bazaar ends, all items are Returned to owner via mail. And don't put this in each faction city, make them go round tamriel, even towards coldharbor or clockwork city.
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✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)I’d actually like to see them add a small Zone of a Mass Marketplace with 20-30 new traders at it as a primary trading hub0 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I love the guild trader system personally. I spend very little time farming but I still acquire items to sell from just playing the game. I’m in two trading guilds and have no trouble meeting the sales requirements, it’s usually no more than a few dreugh wax a week.0 -
majulook✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)Guild Vendor locations assigned by RNG randomizing each guild traders location.
Increase the number of guilds you can be a member of, so it is 5 Trader Guilds An additional 2 NONE Trader Guilds.
Increase the number of members each Guild can have.
Edited by majulook on March 19, 2019 10:34PMSi vis pacem, para bellum0 -
Loves_guars✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)The whole trader guild system needs to go. It's getting too difficult to find guilds without weekly requirements and it's tiresome to have to worry about these for the others.
Just go with an global auction house, for the love of Vivec. Save us all a lot of time too.2 -
Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)Bad enough we have to join guilds we're not interested in just for access to more traders, and in many/most cases pay dearly for the privilege. If it was a random chance to even get one--which sometimes it SEEMS to be already--there would be no reason to stay with any guild that one is not personally emotionally invested in, which would mean most people would only have one, maybe two or three tops because there's only so much of one player to go around. I am in at least one guild I'm in ONLY for the trader, and if I had my druthers I would swap it out for a traderless guild I'm actually interested in, but I can't afford to do that because I need to sell things and if my main guild loses their trader I HAVE to have a backup. I resent this system, it's annoying af.
Also, the RNG absolutely loathes some people. I know, I know, "random". But I always put "random" in quotes for a reason. I swear that thing has a malevolent sentience in this game. It knows the scent of need and it revels in the misery of those it denies repeatedly. Some guilds would never win just because, and that would be ridiculous too.
The whole guild trader setup is a neverending source of aggravation. Out of all the games I've played, this is the only system that makes it an absolute lack of pleasure to do business in. Being different and special isn't a plus if you're doing it in a way that's inconvenient and regularly causes people to be deprived.2 -
deadsheepb14_ESO✭✭✭Other....I am dissatisfied with the current system. (State what you would like to see done.)I just want to buy what I want at the lowest listed price available (NA server-wide); and sell what I want without having to be in a guild. It should just be a free market to buy and sell what you want for everyone.2