Even so, the fact it shows an increase would say that more people are playing now than in the past.Steam is not a reliable indicator for checking how large the ESO player base is, far from it.
Most ESO players don't use Steam to play ESO.
LiquidPony wrote: »
No, really? It's almost like I addressed that exact point in my comment.
Show me some data that says that the ESO playerbase is declining.
I'll wait.
There is no proof.
The population numbers are not disclosed by ZOS, we can only assume based on what we see.
right now PVP is literally dead - Still not a single address from ZOS related to this game breaking issues.
eso is doing great in both PvP and PvE, right now we have more people playing eso than ever in its history and there really is no problems, other than as small group that keeps making threads asking for changes that only "they" want, and when the devs dont do those changes then there are complaints that eso is dead, broken, and flooded with problems and breaking issues, when none of those things are happening.
eso PvP is not dead, it is better now than ever before, and with MORE people now than ever in eso history.
there is no "breaking issues" in eso as you mentioned, all it is, is that devs simply dont agree with some of the views people currently have.
and I myself along with 90% of eso community agree with the devs.
nafensoriel wrote: »There is no proof.
The population numbers are not disclosed by ZOS, we can only assume based on what we see.
In an interview in 2017, the president of ZOS point blank stated there were 2.5 million unique monthly logins. Commentary outside of interviews since then has suggested this has grown to at least 3 million unique monthly logins.
So yeah. Plenty of proof. Just people who like to pretend MMOs powered by studios with hundreds of employees can survive on "just 100k players". (Fun fact.. they can't.)
Please share a link or two to the "commentary" if you have it available.
As far as I know there is no recent official statement about the population numbers.
I never said there are 100k players.
In fact it is reasonable to assume there are many...more than 100k players.
Though all we can do is to assume since there is no recent official statement.
LiquidPony wrote: »right now PVP is literally dead - Still not a single address from ZOS related to this game breaking issues.
eso is doing great in both PvP and PvE, right now we have more people playing eso than ever in its history and there really is no problems, other than as small group that keeps making threads asking for changes that only "they" want, and when the devs dont do those changes then there are complaints that eso is dead, broken, and flooded with problems and breaking issues, when none of those things are happening.
eso PvP is not dead, it is better now than ever before, and with MORE people now than ever in eso history.
there is no "breaking issues" in eso as you mentioned, all it is, is that devs simply dont agree with some of the views people currently have.
and I myself along with 90% of eso community agree with the devs.
Can't tell if this is sarcasm, paid promotion, or you are just playing a completely different game then the rest of us.
Copies sold does not mean more players. Pvp and major pve areas have no where near the population that they used to have and there's plenty of videos and threads showing all of the performance problems.
We complain because we care about the game and just want the basic mechanics to work. White knighting and ignoring these issues does nothing to help the population and longevity of the game.
The trend-line is obviously going up. That's just Steam. If you look more closely at the stats, you tend to see jumps when big updates release (particularly the Chapters), and then a decline shortly thereafter, but the trend-line keeps pointing up.
Have you considered that the population density of certain zones/instances has gone down because there are more zones/instances now? Yeah, sure, maybe there aren't as many people in Rawk'kha or Elden Root as there used to be, but what about all of the people in Alinor or Lilmoth or Vivec City or the Brass Fortress? And perhaps there aren't as many people in Cyrodiil because a lot of them are playing BGs (a much easier way to get the PvP fix in, IMO).
Obviously there's no way to know how many people are playing on XB1/PS4/non-Steam PC. But as a proxy for game popularity, look at /r/elderscrollsonline:
Who knows. I certainly haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that the population is *decreasing*.
Also, as far as content creators go, here's some info on the two most popular (Fengrush and Alcast, as far as I know):
Fengrush Twitch livestream views over time:
Alcast Twitch livestream views over time:
Alcast YouTube subs over time:
It just looks to me like all of the stats are trending up.
Steam is not a reliable indicator for checking how large the ESO player base is, far from it.
Most ESO players don't use Steam to play ESO.
I don't care? I never watch streamers, they annoy me frankly. The only ESO youtuber i watch is Kevduit.
Why should any content creator stick to ESO?
No1 wants to watch a streamer doing the same PVE content over and over again,
Pepole likes to watch PVP, and right now PVP is literally dead - Still not a single address from ZOS related to this game breaking issues.
So what option does ESO's content creators has? Stream a fashion content? A guide "how to design your char"?
Shoutout to Kristofer_ESO for this awsome video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivbmaAwVqs
Well, a lot of them seem to be doing okay.
I don't see many of their dedicated content creators struggling to get views or have things to talk about. They have new content to explore/talk about every three months.
I don't think lack of support for content creators is a great argument for why PvP needs love or should be improved.
The term 'content creator' sounds like ad-speak birthed by YouTube execs, and overly generous in most cases. That said, if they can't make ends meet with eso they should try other games or get real jobs.
Why would anyone sit down and watch other people playing a game when I would sooner be playing it myself...?
ooph, sorry guess I messed up when deleting a lot of the other quoted information.LiquidPony wrote: »
No, really? It's almost like I addressed that exact point in my comment.
Show me some data that says that the ESO playerbase is declining.
I'll wait.
There is no proof.
The population numbers are not disclosed by ZOS, we can only assume based on what we see.
Steam sales and current players playing states are too narrow for making any assumptions.
It is true for the popularity of ESO on Steam, but not outside of it.
Note: Your quote has the wrong name in it, the mentioned forum user didn't post this, I did.
I don't get the whole streaming thing.
I must be old school because I'd rather play the game over watching someone play the game.
I really don't get it. Not even trying to be sarcastic.
What am I missing about this?
I don't get the whole streaming thing.
I must be old school because I'd rather play the game over watching someone play the game.
I really don't get it. Not even trying to be sarcastic.
What am I missing about this?