Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Tbh even if the new guild store ui is missing "known" / "unknown" motifes button searching is still faster than with AGS addon. AGS would still show you empty pages that you need to click and go through, untill on the 10th page you would finally see the motif you don't know yet. The new default UI shows it all on 1 page which makes the search much faster. And btw. You can still hover mouse coursor over a motif page and see if it sasy "known motif style". New base game ui is better than AGS imho (unless of course we will have new version of AGS addon that will be able to display all search results on one page).

I don't think anyone is arguing that they'd like to give up the new search feature.
There's conveniences in the AGS UI that people will still like.
The filters do have their uses, especially for searches where the item name doesn't matter or isn't known.

Regarding the comments lamenting that ZOS hasn't implemented more features: I asked the creator of AGS this question a while back. Perhaps their insightful reply will shed some light on things:

It's mostly due to time constraints. Unlike addon authors they cannot just make something and release it. They have many separate teams involved. Designers to plan how it is supposed to look like, management to approve, UI programmers to implement, server programmers to provide the backend APIs, artists to create the assets, QA to test everything. In addition they have to create, update and fix many more UI elements than just the guild store. There is simply not enough time for them to catch up with the extensive feature set of a big addon.

To conclude, ZOS is now providing the basics, while AGS will provide more sophisticated functions for those who need them, once it's updated. I think that's fair.

Does the Awesome Guild Store add on also come with a "Known / Unknown" toggle?

Gosh, that feature alone makes it 1000x worth it to have.

I'm glad I won't need it any more, it was always a hassle to use with a controller and the new official UI is many times faster. I don't miss any functionality, quite the opposite.

Commancho wrote: »

Awesome Guildstore is a terrible addon. It just doesn't work properly when using search function. It has been confirmed by me and tens of my friends who had similiar issues. I'm glad that we have this fuction by default. As for the other functions there are better addons like Group Loot Notifier or FCO Item Saver.

I don’t say this lightly, but you’re doing it wrong. AGS is a fantastic addon, and it work so beautifully when you use it right. Anyone who says it flatly doesn’t work (prior to U21) is either user error or a conflicting addon.

Make sure your search terms and filters are logical. If in doubt clear all criteria and start over. And never abruptly exit the guild store while a search is in process, that can corrupt the search process and nothing will be found in any store until you reload UI.

When used right it is one of the most seamlessly perfect addons. After going without it for 2 days I feel it’s notably better than the improved base UI. Zeni’s improvements are good and will be more than adequate for people who didn’t use AGS, and will be a life changer on console. But those of us who’ve been using AGS for years will remain underwhelmed by the vanilla functionality and will be eagerly awaiting the updated addon.

The guild store interface is more than a little annoying on the PS4.

I dont understand why they dont talk to the modders and implement their addons in the game. Awesome guild store is one that should be in the base game

The biggest reason that they do not implement existing mods has to do with copyright issues. There have been many long-running and expensive battles fought over copyright of code. It is very unfortunate, but true. It would be nice, however, if they could utilize some of the ideas, even if they can't use the mod's own code.

I am very much looking forward to an updated and compatible version of AGS. I am struggling without it:

- the "known" filter
- the easy access to your different guilds
- use of the craft bag
- not having to split items as you can easily select how many exactly you want to sell in a given transaction


AGS is such a great add on.

CantFixIr wrote: »

Just wondering - will someone post here when the add-on is adequately updated? :O

There is already a 'beta' version but you need to get it of dropbox (for now) and my limited testing has shown it to work with no obvious bugs

silvermistktralasub17_ESO wrote: »

The biggest reason that they do not implement existing mods has to do with copyright issues. There have been many long-running and expensive battles fought over copyright of code. It is very unfortunate, but true. It would be nice, however, if they could utilize some of the ideas, even if they can't use the mod's own code.

I would not be surprised if ZOS owns any addons for this game no matter who made them. That would be noted in the TOS and I have not read that fully no matter how many times I have agreed to it.

They for sure technically own the mods made using the editors for their stand alone games. The fact that addons for ESO are made with script editors should not change that legal claim. And, addons are client side where ZOS can do this server side. Which is why ZOS new UI is faster as it just sends the filtered data, not applies filters to the full list locally.

In other words, if ZOS wants to, they could incorporate any addon ideas they want to into the game with not much more than a thank you.

silvermistktralasub17_ESO wrote: »

The biggest reason that they do not implement existing mods has to do with copyright issues. There have been many long-running and expensive battles fought over copyright of code. It is very unfortunate, but true. It would be nice, however, if they could utilize some of the ideas, even if they can't use the mod's own code.

The modders aren't making any money at this, certainly not significant amounts. It should be easy to reach an arrangement with them in most cases.

That said, there's little reason to assume ZoS would WANT to use mod code in their base product.

By the way -- the worst thing about AGS has long been that it relied on base search pages from the guild store, and hence could serve up empty results pages. (Second-worst thing -- those pages seemed to render more slowly when they were completely empty.)

If a new version of the mod can work though ZoS own new filtering capabilities, then it will offer the best of both worlds. If not, I may turn AGS on for some characters but off for others for a while. I'll still be delighted to have AGS overall.

Ui downloaded the beta version of AGS last night. Wow, just wow. While stock UI changes are awesome, they make AGS even better than was before. Fast. Heck yea. Other QOL changes in AGS are nice too

So, yes, AGS is still desired. Needed? Each person has to decide