Race change token is disappointing...
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »AbysmalGhul wrote: »Not really misleading. You can techinically change into another race...just not the one you were hoping for.
lol, not misleading because technically...
It's true regardless how you feel about it. I don't see it named " Change into any race"
I don't see it named change into a choice of two other races unless you buy upgrade token.1 -
AbysmalGhul✭✭✭✭✭
✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »AbysmalGhul wrote: »Not really misleading. You can techinically change into another race...just not the one you were hoping for.
lol, not misleading because technically...
It's true regardless how you feel about it. I don't see it named " Change into any race"
I don't see it named change into a choice of two other races unless you buy upgrade token.
True true, but in the end, take it or leave it. Reroll or just stick with what you got.1 -
haelene✭✭✭✭✭
✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »Not really misleading. You can techinically change into another race...just not the one you were hoping for.
lol, not misleading because technically...
Not usually one to defend ZOS over something like this, but...
It doesn't "technically" do what it says, it literally does what it says.
That doesn't mean it has to override conditions that apply to your account - those conditions being that you can't have a race that doesn't match the alliance because you haven't paid to unlock that. People who paid for that ability can indeed change their race to one from another alliance. You don't get the perks others have paid for just because.
Any race any alliance has been a thing for ... well, forever. It's not some new thing they introduced without telling anyone. It's literally a part of the character creation. If you missed that, well, then I'm genuinely sorry - but that's on you, not ZOS.
On top of that, this token is free. You paid nothing for it and have therefore lost nothing.12 -
klowdy1✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Um.... you need to read up on the Three Banners War so you have a basic idea how the game works....
Now, I don't go all faction crap myself - but then, I don't expect to change a Bosmer to an Orc or Redguard either. There are things about the game that are actually set in stone - unless you want to pay to "remove that stone".
Good luck with everything.
I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.
Well good luck with that. If you ever read what the race change token does, at any point in its existence, you would realize it isn't misleading at all. You get a race change token, not some new thing they just made up. We all understand you are asking for a bigger handout than what you got, there is no need to explain further. You just need to understand reality, and expectations dont always match up. The only person at fault is the person with unreal expectations. Did you think they were going to change the functionality of the race change tokens?
I'm curious, why even play this game if you dont take in any of the stories in any way?5 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Um.... you need to read up on the Three Banners War so you have a basic idea how the game works....
Now, I don't go all faction crap myself - but then, I don't expect to change a Bosmer to an Orc or Redguard either. There are things about the game that are actually set in stone - unless you want to pay to "remove that stone".
Good luck with everything.
I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.
Well good luck with that. If you ever read what the race change token does, at any point in its existence, you would realize it isn't misleading at all. You get a race change token, not some new thing they just made up. We all understand you are asking for a bigger handout than what you got, there is no need to explain further. You just need to understand reality, and expectations dont always match up. The only person at fault is the person with unreal expectations. Did you think they were going to change the functionality of the race change tokens?
I'm curious, why even play this game if you dont take in any of the stories in any way?
Yes I agree with you. It is misleading to call it a Change Race Token. Thank you for your support1 -
Michae✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?Edited by Michae on February 26, 2019 12:07PM"I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
―Sotha Sil
@Michae PC/EU1 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.1 -
FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes it is going to address it. That is exactly what it does do.
This game launched with the Three Banners War as the backdrop. As such, the design decision to limit players to the three races in each alliance (except for pre-orders at that time) was specifically made because of that narrative reason. That is why there are an equal number of races in each faction.
You don't care about the story? Your choice.
Your claim that it doesn't inform your current complaint? Factually incorrect.
Your argument that some make believe story justifies having to buy an expensive cash grab upgrade is ridiculous to me.
You are in a make believe game... why would you think for a moment that the make believe story wouldn't apply?
Because it doesn't support their cause of getting their way. That or they're trolling. I'm inclined to think the latter because it's literally turned into "I don't read the lore, I don't care about it, but I like the 'game'."
It's almost like they think this is Skyrim 2 or something.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!6 -
Temeraire507✭✭✭I agree they should add a note that it is only working for your alliance.
However the token is not misspelled. It literally does what it says. Lets you change your race. The name you suggest is ridiculous, way too long and technically still does not tell what it does.
Others payed for the option to join any alliance with any race, giving you the option to do this for free is not debatable.
'Just' changing your alliance does not work. I won't explain the lore behind it but if you played the mainstory you should know why you can walk around in the other alliances areas without any punishment. Before the One Tamriel update your were not even able to go there if you didn't come that far in the story (which still makes more sense if you are not invested into the lore than being able to go anywhere you want just because it is in a time after the content you haven't played yet). There are achievements, quests, and ingame objects tied to the alliance you choose and taking them from you is hard to do without making you able to do the same content twice or locking you from completing it.Edited by Temeraire507 on February 26, 2019 12:13PM3 -
Michae✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
"I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
―Sotha Sil
@Michae PC/EU6 -
keevil111✭✭✭✭So far I've bought - 3 character slots, any race any alliance, Horns of the Reach, Dragon Bones, and Wolfhunter all for in-game gold, so, for free.
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
The name of the Change Race Token being purposely misleading.1 -
haelene✭✭✭✭✭
✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
The name of the Change Race Token being purposely misleading.
It's not misleading.
Again, it does exactly what it said it does. What you want is the added functionality of any race any alliance. Again added functionality. You're assuming the added functionality that it in no way claims to have. If you can't make a DC Altmer in the character creation screen, what makes you think you could do it with a race change token?
On top of that, if any race any alliance didn't exist at all, the functionality of the token would remain the same. It's not the token you're mad about. You're upset you're not getting the additional functionality of a paid feature.7 -
JWillCHS✭✭✭Yes it is going to address it. That is exactly what it does do.
This game launched with the Three Banners War as the backdrop. As such, the design decision to limit players to the three races in each alliance (except for pre-orders at that time) was specifically made because of that narrative reason. That is why there are an equal number of races in each faction.
You don't care about the story? Your choice.
Your claim that it doesn't inform your current complaint? Factually incorrect.
Your argument that some make believe story justifies having to buy an expensive cash grab upgrade is ridiculous to me.
You are in a make believe game... why would you think for a moment that the make believe story wouldn't apply?
I kind of agree with you. At the same time remember the launch of ESO? Considering the narrative, traditional fans of TES were not happy with the options ZoS was giving players since the Elder Scrolls never gave us restrictions like this before.
So people voiced their opinion and ZoS replied with a no over and over.
But instead of giving people the Imperial race or just making all races available regardless of the faction at not cost to us, we were told that it required additional purchases. And the Imperial race was locked behind a special edition SKU too.
For ZoS it wasn't "damned if we do and damned if we don't" when it came to pleasing their customers. They sought to make a profit whether it was planned from the start or a couple months before April 2014.
I appreciate the tokens but come on y'all...
Just think about it. The CEO of EA and Activision both make roughly $30 million a year; a salary approved by board members.
You're telling me Zenimax and/or a subsidiary can't afford to have these digital assets come with the game at no additional cost?
I'm a lore nut when it comes to TES. But there are too many examples in ESO today where race doesn't and shouldn't matter. Even at launch there were Imperials in Cyrodiil wanting to reclaim their land from Molag Bal.
Once ZoS monetized it then the racial choices became an issue. They should have just stuck to their guns if Alliance loyalty and personality was that important.Edited by JWillCHS on February 26, 2019 12:36PM2 -
klowdy1✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Um.... you need to read up on the Three Banners War so you have a basic idea how the game works....
Now, I don't go all faction crap myself - but then, I don't expect to change a Bosmer to an Orc or Redguard either. There are things about the game that are actually set in stone - unless you want to pay to "remove that stone".
Good luck with everything.
I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.
Well good luck with that. If you ever read what the race change token does, at any point in its existence, you would realize it isn't misleading at all. You get a race change token, not some new thing they just made up. We all understand you are asking for a bigger handout than what you got, there is no need to explain further. You just need to understand reality, and expectations dont always match up. The only person at fault is the person with unreal expectations. Did you think they were going to change the functionality of the race change tokens?
I'm curious, why even play this game if you dont take in any of the stories in any way?
Yes I agree with you. It is misleading to call it a Change Race Token. Thank you for your support
Lol, you are really just looking for validation in any place you can find it. My second sentence literally says not misleading.4 -
witchdoctor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Um.... you need to read up on the Three Banners War so you have a basic idea how the game works....
Now, I don't go all faction crap myself - but then, I don't expect to change a Bosmer to an Orc or Redguard either. There are things about the game that are actually set in stone - unless you want to pay to "remove that stone".
Good luck with everything.
I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.
Doesn't want to read.
Complains he is misled when he doesn't read.11 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
The name of the Change Race Token being purposely misleading.
It's not misleading.
Again, it does exactly what it said it does. What you want is the added functionality of any race any alliance. Again added functionality. You're assuming the added functionality that it in no way claims to have. If you can't make a DC Altmer in the character creation screen, what makes you think you could do it with a race change token?
On top of that, if any race any alliance didn't exist at all, the functionality of the token would remain the same. It's not the token you're mad about. You're upset you're not getting the additional functionality of a paid feature.
No. I was annoyed that something called Change Race Token that I was given for free only gives option to change to two other races unless you purchase an upgrade. I find this business practice shady and I find the naming of the token misleading.1 -
Michae✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
The name of the Change Race Token being purposely misleading.
You must get mislead a lot since you're not reading decriptions. And what were you mislead into? You didn't pay for anything. You didn't have to do anything. You got the item, the item has a particular description, you didn't read it. That's all.Edited by Michae on February 26, 2019 12:35PM"I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
―Sotha Sil
@Michae PC/EU4 -
xxthir13enxx✭✭✭✭✭
✭KommandantViy wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »wsmith97ub17_ESO wrote: »entitled brats
Complaining about anti-consumer behaviour doesn't make you an entitled brat.
Please stop with your anti-consumer BS. It's getting old.
Anti - entitlement maybe, but this is in no way anti-consumerism.
I didn't need to spend $20 on this game yesterday. I do today.
The $20 isn't going towards adding new content. It's not going towards fixing a mistake I made (I chose the races I did for a reason, a reason that is now invalidated). The $20 is going towards correcting a dissonance created by a developer change to the race I had picked when I made my character.
I'm confused, was there some kind of hidden $20 surcharge for the race changes and name changes or something? Because unless there was, if you didn't *need* to spend $20 yesterday, then you don't *need* to spend $20 today. This would be like someone gifting me a high end game if I have a middling computer then saying "well now I need to buy a new graphics card, gee thanks." rather than just being grateful that you were gifted something.
Actually it is more like if...
Someone has given you a new car
And delivered it right to your driveway
Right behind your old car...
Only the New car has no gas...
Now....you have access to both...
But neither are beneficial unless
You spend $20 on gas...
The Race Alliance lock should of left with One Tamriel...
It’s silly...0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just think about it. The CEO of EA and Activision both make roughly $30 million a year; a salary approved by board members.
You're telling me Zenimax and/or a subsidiary can't afford to have these digital assets come with game at no additional cost?
It’s their business to run and their choices to make. Of course they could afford it. But why would they go beyond the generosity they already have shown? People often call ZOS predatory, shady, or worse. In reality that’s all a self-inflicted feeling of wanting something so badly you feel it’s a must have. It’s not objective.Edited by Feanor on February 26, 2019 12:39PMMain characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.5 -
haelene✭✭✭✭✭
✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
The name of the Change Race Token being purposely misleading.
It's not misleading.
Again, it does exactly what it said it does. What you want is the added functionality of any race any alliance. Again added functionality. You're assuming the added functionality that it in no way claims to have. If you can't make a DC Altmer in the character creation screen, what makes you think you could do it with a race change token?
On top of that, if any race any alliance didn't exist at all, the functionality of the token would remain the same. It's not the token you're mad about. You're upset you're not getting the additional functionality of a paid feature.
No. I was annoyed that something called Change Race Token that I was given for free only gives option to change to two other races unless you purchase an upgrade. I find this business practice shady and I find the naming of the token misleading.
No. It would be misleading if it didn't allow you to change your race at all. It does.
Changing to a race outside of your alliance is not a feature of the game unless you buy it.
That's like being angry it won't let you change to an Imperial if you didn't pay for the imperial. It's an added feature. Additional. Separate. Not included.6 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am grateful because they didn't have to do it at all. So got to appreciate them willing to do this for us. We were only going to get one, but because of the response on forums response, we managed to get three. Even though it isn't much a win for those that need to change so many characters races. It was a nice gesture they didn't even have to do it at all but they did. So for that I am grateful to them for at least giving players something. So I thank you Zenimax and hopefully others are thankful too for at least working with the player base in giving us more race change tokens. Three is better then nothing and thank you for the Name Changes
Edited by Thevampirenight on February 26, 2019 12:42PMPC NA
Please add Fangs to Vampires.6 -
FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes it is going to address it. That is exactly what it does do.
This game launched with the Three Banners War as the backdrop. As such, the design decision to limit players to the three races in each alliance (except for pre-orders at that time) was specifically made because of that narrative reason. That is why there are an equal number of races in each faction.
You don't care about the story? Your choice.
Your claim that it doesn't inform your current complaint? Factually incorrect.
Your argument that some make believe story justifies having to buy an expensive cash grab upgrade is ridiculous to me.
You are in a make believe game... why would you think for a moment that the make believe story wouldn't apply?
I kind of agree with you. At the same time remember the launch of ESO? Considering the narrative, traditional fans of TES were not happy with the options ZoS was giving players since the Elder Scrolls never gave us restrictions like this before.
So people voiced their opinion with ZoS replying with a no over and over.
But instead of giving people the Imperial race or just making all races available regardless of the faction at not cost to us, we were told that it required additional purchases. And the Imperial race was locked behind a special edition SKU too.
For ZoS it wasn't "damned if we do and damned if we don't". They sought to make a profit whether it was planned from the start or a couple months before April 2014.
I appreciate the tokens but come on y'all...
Just think about it. The CEO of EA and Activision both make roughly $30 million a year; a salary approved by board members.
You're telling me Zenimax and/or a subsidiary can't afford to have these digital assets come with game at no additional cost?
I'm a lore nut when it comes to TES. But there are too many examples in ESO today where race doesn't and shouldn't matter. Even at launch there were Imperials in Cyrodiil wanting to reclaim their land from Molag Bal.
Once ZoS monetized it then the racial choices became an issue. They should have just stuck to their guns if Alliance loyalty and personality was that important.
But Zenimax had no control over what Bethesda did lore-wise. The other stuff happens with many MMOs. So there's not much of an issue. Either purchase the unlock or get stuck with your alliance races. It's not a big deal. The world isn't going to come to an end. You can even pay for it with in game gold.This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
The name of the Change Race Token being purposely misleading.
You must get mislead a lot since you're not reading decriptions. And what were you mislead into? You didn't pay for anything. You didn't have to do anything. You got the item, the item has a particular description, you didn't read it. That's all.
This is the part that's absolutely makes no sense. He got them for free, yet it doesn't do what HE wants it to do. So it's obviously shady business.
I'm seriously hoping Nerf Sorc threads come back. At least those arguments made half-sense.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!1 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »KommandantViy wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »wsmith97ub17_ESO wrote: »entitled brats
Complaining about anti-consumer behaviour doesn't make you an entitled brat.
Please stop with your anti-consumer BS. It's getting old.
Anti - entitlement maybe, but this is in no way anti-consumerism.
I didn't need to spend $20 on this game yesterday. I do today.
The $20 isn't going towards adding new content. It's not going towards fixing a mistake I made (I chose the races I did for a reason, a reason that is now invalidated). The $20 is going towards correcting a dissonance created by a developer change to the race I had picked when I made my character.
I'm confused, was there some kind of hidden $20 surcharge for the race changes and name changes or something? Because unless there was, if you didn't *need* to spend $20 yesterday, then you don't *need* to spend $20 today. This would be like someone gifting me a high end game if I have a middling computer then saying "well now I need to buy a new graphics card, gee thanks." rather than just being grateful that you were gifted something.
Actually it is more like if...
Someone has given you a new car
And delivered it right to your driveway
Right behind your old car...
Only the New car has no gas...
Now....you have access to both...
But neither are beneficial unless
You spend $20 on gas...
The Race Alliance lock should of left with One Tamriel...
It’s silly...
The old car runs well enough though still.
Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.2 -
haelene✭✭✭✭✭
✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »KommandantViy wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »wsmith97ub17_ESO wrote: »entitled brats
Complaining about anti-consumer behaviour doesn't make you an entitled brat.
Please stop with your anti-consumer BS. It's getting old.
Anti - entitlement maybe, but this is in no way anti-consumerism.
I didn't need to spend $20 on this game yesterday. I do today.
The $20 isn't going towards adding new content. It's not going towards fixing a mistake I made (I chose the races I did for a reason, a reason that is now invalidated). The $20 is going towards correcting a dissonance created by a developer change to the race I had picked when I made my character.
I'm confused, was there some kind of hidden $20 surcharge for the race changes and name changes or something? Because unless there was, if you didn't *need* to spend $20 yesterday, then you don't *need* to spend $20 today. This would be like someone gifting me a high end game if I have a middling computer then saying "well now I need to buy a new graphics card, gee thanks." rather than just being grateful that you were gifted something.
Actually it is more like if...
Someone has given you a new car
And delivered it right to your driveway
Right behind your old car...
Only the New car has no gas...
Now....you have access to both...
But neither are beneficial unless
You spend $20 on gas...
The Race Alliance lock should of left with One Tamriel...
It’s silly...
Nope. Not the same at all because the token has use. You just can't use it the way you want.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »AbysmalGhul wrote: »Not really misleading. You can techinically change into another race...just not the one you were hoping for.
lol, not misleading because technically...
It's true regardless how you feel about it. I don't see it named " Change into any race"
Rekt! Shortest and yet best answer IMHO.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.5 -
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✭As for people getting something for Free that You paid for...
You just paid for Early Access...
Just like everyone who bought Morrowind etc etc etc
I’ve always had access to All the races...it really is not necessary for there to be a lock.1 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭Yes. Thank you ZOS for this free gift I can use to change the race of my character. And in return ZOS here is some money for your generous free gift so I change into a race of my choice instead of just the two I have an option of. Even though your naming of the Change Race Token is misleading and easily could have been called 'Change Race From Choice of Two Other Races Or Stay Same Race And Just Change Some Stuff Up If You Like Unless You Purchase Upgrade/s' I still appreciate the generous free gift so I can buy an upgrade to use it.
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haelene✭✭✭✭✭
✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »As for people getting something for Free that You paid for...
You just paid for Early Access...
Just like everyone who bought Morrowind etc etc etc
I’ve always had access to All the races...it really is not necessary for there to be a lock.
Are they doing away with ARAA and incorporating it into the base game? No?
Well then, the token is just fine. It's not misleading and does exactly what it says it does.
No one is objecting to it becoming a non-paid feature, as you seem to be suggesting. We're objecting to the fact that people assumed this free item that they were given was going to allow them to circumvent the rules and are now making the false claim that the race change token is misleading because it doesn't give you the functionality of a, as of this moment, paid additional feature.5
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