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Race change token is disappointing...
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FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »xxthir13enxx wrote: »As for people getting something for Free that You paid for...
You just paid for Early Access...
Just like everyone who bought Morrowind etc etc etc
I’ve always had access to All the races...it really is not necessary for there to be a lock.
Are they doing away with ARAA and incorporating it into the base game? No?
Well then, the token is just fine. It's not misleading and does exactly what it says it does.
No one is objecting to it becoming a non-paid feature, as you seem to be suggesting. We're objecting to the fact that people assumed this free item that they were given was going to allow them to circumvent the rules and are now making the false claim that the race change token is misleading because it doesn't give you the functionality of a, as of this moment, paid additional feature.
You may not be objecting...but Might help if you read all the posts about Entitlement and “getting something that I paid for” posts.
Okay, fine. I'm not objecting. That's cherry picking my argument though, and redirecting the conversation to a different topic. The point is, getting ARAA is not on the table as of this moment and the token is not misleading just because it doesn't offer ARAA.
If the OP wants ARAA for free, they should just say so instead of hiding behind this "misleading" bit about a free thing they received. We would be having a different conversation then and I would agree.
No. I just want to change race to another race other than the two I have choice of with the free misleadingly named Change Race Token without having to purchase anything else to use the free Change Race Token to do it. I don't care about other stuff.
You're literally describing ARAA.
That's the feature you want. Any race any alliance. That's what would allow you to change into another race outside of your current alliance. I'm not sure what you mean about "other stuff". There is no other stuff.
The token isn't limiting your choices. The fact you don't have any race any alliance is.
No I don't care about alliance. I just want to use Change Race token to change race with more than the 2 other options that I have. Any or no alliance is fine for me. Whatever works. Just want to change race.
I recommend reading through r/choosingbeggars on Reddit and then compare your posts to a lot of the stories in there. See if you can spot the difference.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!2 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭IndyWendieGo wrote: »xxthir13enxx wrote: »xxthir13enxx wrote: »As for people getting something for Free that You paid for...
You just paid for Early Access...
Just like everyone who bought Morrowind etc etc etc
I’ve always had access to All the races...it really is not necessary for there to be a lock.
Are they doing away with ARAA and incorporating it into the base game? No?
Well then, the token is just fine. It's not misleading and does exactly what it says it does.
No one is objecting to it becoming a non-paid feature, as you seem to be suggesting. We're objecting to the fact that people assumed this free item that they were given was going to allow them to circumvent the rules and are now making the false claim that the race change token is misleading because it doesn't give you the functionality of a, as of this moment, paid additional feature.
You may not be objecting...but Might help if you read all the posts about Entitlement and “getting something that I paid for” posts.
Okay, fine. I'm not objecting. That's cherry picking my argument though, and redirecting the conversation to a different topic. The point is, getting ARAA is not on the table as of this moment and the token is not misleading just because it doesn't offer ARAA.
If the OP wants ARAA for free, they should just say so instead of hiding behind this "misleading" bit about a free thing they received. We would be having a different conversation then and I would agree.
No. I just want to change race to another race other than the two I have choice of with the free misleadingly named Change Race Token without having to purchase anything else to use the free Change Race Token to do it. I don't care about other stuff.
You're literally describing ARAA.
That's the feature you want. Any race any alliance. That's what would allow you to change into another race outside of your current alliance. I'm not sure what you mean about "other stuff". There is no other stuff.
The token isn't limiting your choices. The fact you don't have any race any alliance is.
No I don't care about alliance. I just want to use Change Race token to change race with more than the 2 other options that I have. Any or no alliance is fine for me. Whatever works. Just want to change race.
I recommend reading through r/choosingbeggars on Reddit and then compare your posts to a lot of the stories in there. See if you can spot the difference.
I probably won't to be honest.1 -
Isteris✭✭✭I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.1 -
Khaleesi8688✭✭✭✭Can you imagine how many things OP is mislead about? Like what do they think baby powder is made out of? Do they think buffalos have wings?7
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FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭Khaleesi8688 wrote: »Can you imagine how many things OP is mislead about? Like what do they think baby powder is made out of? Do they think buffalos have wings?
Grelod the Kind approves of the baby powder.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!1 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »If you didn't have that to begin with, why would ZOS include it? Those of us who paid for it deserve the ability to pick any race, and with the ability to buy Crown items for gold, you can /EASILY/ pick it up and have the choice the rest of us paid for.
why you going off? it's a change race token. should be able to change races. not pick of two.
Sheezabeast is right.
Why would Zenimax give you a perk that people paid for...for free?
I’m not following the logic. None of these racial changes are game breaking anyway.1 -
jd24✭✭✭Hey ZOS could be like blizzard. Buff a racial (without the free tokens) so everyone has to pay for a race change. After the money slows down, they nerf said racial and people will pay to race change to something else.
Why not just buy a couple months of eso plus and use the crowns on the any race any alliance thing?1 -
FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭joedraper24b14_ESO wrote: »Hey ZOS could be like blizzard. Buff a racial (without the free tokens) so everyone has to pay for a race change. After the money slows down, they nerf said racial and people will pay to race change to something else.
Why not just buy a couple months of eso plus and use the crowns on the any race any alliance thing?
Because that would be logical. Or the OP is trolling.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nerf Khajiits again?Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!0 -
klowdy1✭✭✭✭✭This thread is still going? Come on.
I'll give you that if you only care about meta and they changed races around, then not being able to change into any race sucks. Should they give that option? Maybe.
Still, you cannot say that the description of the token is misleading since it literally says that you have to have this other upgrade to change into any race other than the ones from alliance. You not reading descriptions isn't really anybody's fault but yours.
Maybe try submitting a ticket and complain about it directly to ZOS support instead of salting it out with forum users here?
No. I'm just going to complain here.
Complain about what? You not reading descriptions?
The name of the Change Race Token being purposely misleading.
It's not misleading.
Again, it does exactly what it said it does. What you want is the added functionality of any race any alliance. Again added functionality. You're assuming the added functionality that it in no way claims to have. If you can't make a DC Altmer in the character creation screen, what makes you think you could do it with a race change token?
On top of that, if any race any alliance didn't exist at all, the functionality of the token would remain the same. It's not the token you're mad about. You're upset you're not getting the additional functionality of a paid feature.
No. I was annoyed that something called Change Race Token that I was given for free only gives option to change to two other races unless you purchase an upgrade. I find this business practice shady and I find the naming of the token misleading.
They could have just not given anything at all. Would that be better, or worse?
Neither better or worse.
Just looking a gifthorse in the mouth I see. You obviously don't understand reading comprehension. No one tricked you, you just expected them to change functionality for something that they didn't have to give you. These things are still a part of their money making system after the fact, they can't just get rid of them because people don't want to spend in game currency to buy a feature. I'm going to go ahead and walk away from this pointless arguement of people that didn't take two minutes to check out functionality. Continue arguing with yourself, though.0 -
Temeraire507✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »xxthir13enxx wrote: »As for people getting something for Free that You paid for...
You just paid for Early Access...
Just like everyone who bought Morrowind etc etc etc
I’ve always had access to All the races...it really is not necessary for there to be a lock.
Are they doing away with ARAA and incorporating it into the base game? No?
Well then, the token is just fine. It's not misleading and does exactly what it says it does.
No one is objecting to it becoming a non-paid feature, as you seem to be suggesting. We're objecting to the fact that people assumed this free item that they were given was going to allow them to circumvent the rules and are now making the false claim that the race change token is misleading because it doesn't give you the functionality of a, as of this moment, paid additional feature.
You may not be objecting...but Might help if you read all the posts about Entitlement and “getting something that I paid for” posts.
Okay, fine. I'm not objecting. That's cherry picking my argument though, and redirecting the conversation to a different topic. The point is, getting ARAA is not on the table as of this moment and the token is not misleading just because it doesn't offer ARAA.
If the OP wants ARAA for free, they should just say so instead of hiding behind this "misleading" bit about a free thing they received. We would be having a different conversation then and I would agree.
No. I just want to change race to another race other than the two I have choice of with the free misleadingly named Change Race Token without having to purchase anything else to use the free Change Race Token to do it. I don't care about other stuff.
You're literally describing ARAA.
That's the feature you want. Any race any alliance. That's what would allow you to change into another race outside of your current alliance. I'm not sure what you mean about "other stuff". There is no other stuff.
The token isn't limiting your choices. The fact you don't have any race any alliance is.
No I don't care about alliance. I just want to use Change Race token to change race with more than the 2 other options that I have. Any or no alliance is fine for me. Whatever works. Just want to change race.
I will just quote what I already wroteTemeraire507 wrote: »I agree they should add a note that it is only working for your alliance.
However the token is not misspelled. It literally does what it says. Lets you change your race. The name you suggest is ridiculous, way too long and technically still does not tell what it does.
Others payed for the option to join any alliance with any race, giving you the option to do this for free is not debatable.
'Just' changing your alliance does not work. I won't explain the lore behind it but if you played the mainstory you should know why you can walk around in the other alliances areas without any punishment. Before the One Tamriel update your were not even able to go there if you didn't come that far in the story (which still makes more sense if you are not invested into the lore than being able to go anywhere you want just because it is in a time after the content you haven't played yet). There are achievements, quests, and ingame objects tied to the alliance you choose and taking them from you is hard to do without making you able to do the same content twice or locking you from completing it.
The alliances are a core mechanic of the game and there are reasons why players are unable to change their alliance.
And yes as I wrote already in another post I believe ARAA should be in the base game, but as long as it isn't you shouldn't get it without buying it like everyone else. The tokens are working as they shouldEdited by Temeraire507 on February 26, 2019 1:52PM1 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.
No. I just wanted to change race with the free token. Found it misleading by how it was named versus how it works . I would have same disappointment with marketed name of token whether it was free or had I purchased it. It's misleadingly named.0 -
haelene✭✭✭✭✭
✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »xxthir13enxx wrote: »As for people getting something for Free that You paid for...
You just paid for Early Access...
Just like everyone who bought Morrowind etc etc etc
I’ve always had access to All the races...it really is not necessary for there to be a lock.
Are they doing away with ARAA and incorporating it into the base game? No?
Well then, the token is just fine. It's not misleading and does exactly what it says it does.
No one is objecting to it becoming a non-paid feature, as you seem to be suggesting. We're objecting to the fact that people assumed this free item that they were given was going to allow them to circumvent the rules and are now making the false claim that the race change token is misleading because it doesn't give you the functionality of a, as of this moment, paid additional feature.
You may not be objecting...but Might help if you read all the posts about Entitlement and “getting something that I paid for” posts.
Okay, fine. I'm not objecting. That's cherry picking my argument though, and redirecting the conversation to a different topic. The point is, getting ARAA is not on the table as of this moment and the token is not misleading just because it doesn't offer ARAA.
If the OP wants ARAA for free, they should just say so instead of hiding behind this "misleading" bit about a free thing they received. We would be having a different conversation then and I would agree.
No. I just want to change race to another race other than the two I have choice of with the free misleadingly named Change Race Token without having to purchase anything else to use the free Change Race Token to do it. I don't care about other stuff.
You're literally describing ARAA.
That's the feature you want. Any race any alliance. That's what would allow you to change into another race outside of your current alliance. I'm not sure what you mean about "other stuff". There is no other stuff.
The token isn't limiting your choices. The fact you don't have any race any alliance is.
No I don't care about alliance. I just want to use Change Race token to change race with more than the 2 other options that I have. Any or no alliance is fine for me. Whatever works. Just want to change race.
Okay, I see the problem. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how this game works.
You have to care about alliance because it's literally the thing preventing you from switching to the other races.
The token isn't just choosing two other races you can pick from.
To be entirely clear, there are two main game mechanics you need to understand :
1 : This game has three alliances with three different races a peace (excluding Imperials). AD has khajiit, bosmer, and altmer. DC has Breton, Orc, and Redguard. ED has Dunmer, Nord, and Argonian. These three alliances are at war. The base game restricts you to playing within your alliance (so you can't make a Nord in AD or an Argonian in DC) because it is pretty un-lore friendly to have a bunch of people running around in what would be enemy territory.
2 : The game won't let you change your characters alliance either because that would mean people would hop to which ever side is winning in PVP (which is where the three alliances are pitted against each other).
That means if you go to change your characters race, you are going to be stuck to the races that are also in your alliance..
The only way to change this is to pay for the added feature to have a character whose race does not match their alliance. That feature is called Any Race Any Alliance, or ARAA.
The race change token itself does nothing other than take you to your character creation screen. Whether or not the other races are unlocked depends entirely upon whether or not you have ARAA.2 -
Michae✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.
No. I just wanted to change race with the free token. Found it misleading by how it was named versus how it works . I would have same disappointment with marketed name of token whether it was free or had I purchased it. It's misleadingly named.
It's. In. Description. You're just arguing silly here. And you lost nothing, you didn't buy a token."I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »xxthir13enxx wrote: »As for people getting something for Free that You paid for...
You just paid for Early Access...
Just like everyone who bought Morrowind etc etc etc
I’ve always had access to All the races...it really is not necessary for there to be a lock.
Are they doing away with ARAA and incorporating it into the base game? No?
Well then, the token is just fine. It's not misleading and does exactly what it says it does.
No one is objecting to it becoming a non-paid feature, as you seem to be suggesting. We're objecting to the fact that people assumed this free item that they were given was going to allow them to circumvent the rules and are now making the false claim that the race change token is misleading because it doesn't give you the functionality of a, as of this moment, paid additional feature.
You may not be objecting...but Might help if you read all the posts about Entitlement and “getting something that I paid for” posts.
Okay, fine. I'm not objecting. That's cherry picking my argument though, and redirecting the conversation to a different topic. The point is, getting ARAA is not on the table as of this moment and the token is not misleading just because it doesn't offer ARAA.
If the OP wants ARAA for free, they should just say so instead of hiding behind this "misleading" bit about a free thing they received. We would be having a different conversation then and I would agree.
No. I just want to change race to another race other than the two I have choice of with the free misleadingly named Change Race Token without having to purchase anything else to use the free Change Race Token to do it. I don't care about other stuff.
You're literally describing ARAA.
That's the feature you want. Any race any alliance. That's what would allow you to change into another race outside of your current alliance. I'm not sure what you mean about "other stuff". There is no other stuff.
The token isn't limiting your choices. The fact you don't have any race any alliance is.
No I don't care about alliance. I just want to use Change Race token to change race with more than the 2 other options that I have. Any or no alliance is fine for me. Whatever works. Just want to change race.
Okay, I see the problem. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how this game works.
You have to care about alliance because it's literally the thing preventing you from switching to the other races.
The token isn't just choosing two other races you can pick from.
To be entirely clear, there are two main game mechanics you need to understand :
1 : This game has three alliances with three different races a peace (excluding Imperials). AD has khajiit, bosmer, and altmer. DC has Breton, Orc, and Redguard. ED has Dunmer, Nord, and Argonian. These three alliances are at war. The base game restricts you to playing within your alliance (so you can't make a Nord in AD or an Argonian in DC) because it is pretty un-lore friendly to have a bunch of people running around in what would be enemy territory.
2 : The game won't let you change your characters alliance either because that would mean people would hop to which ever side is winning in PVP (which is where the three alliances are pitted against each other).
That means if you go to change your characters race, you are going to be stuck to the races that are also in your alliance..
The only way to change this is to pay for the added feature to have a character whose race does not match their alliance. That feature is called Any Race Any Alliance, or ARAA.
The race change token itself does nothing other than take you to your character creation screen. Whether or not the other races are unlocked depends entirely upon whether or not you have ARAA.
No. Buying an upgrade to use the free Change Race Token how I would want to use it is the only thing stopping me.0 -
MrRudiculous✭✭✭I'm curious as to wonder if you've heard or played any of the other Elder scrolls games and how you manage to find out about this game in the first place? But to be honest once you said you don't care about anything this game has to offer but you love it anyway got me thinking... Yeah typical troll right there.PC EU Daggerfall Covenant Sotha CP810
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Temeraire507✭✭✭2 : The game won't let you change your characters alliance either because that would mean people would hop to which ever side is winning in PVP (which is where the three alliances are pitted against each other).
This is wrong imo as it would cost money for every change. Also your alliance is tied to more than just PvP. The main quests and Cadwells Gold/Silver for example.
Edited by Temeraire507 on February 26, 2019 2:01PM4 -
Isteris✭✭✭I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.
*Just a note to clear up any misunderstanding. The adventures pack will not allow you to change alliance but it will allow you to change to any race and have them as part of your existing alliance.3 -
FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭Temeraire507 wrote: »2 : The game won't let you change your characters alliance either because that would mean people would hop to which ever side is winning in PVP (which is where the three alliances are pitted against each other).
This is wrong imo as it would cost money for every change. Also your alliance is tied to more than just PvP. The main quests and Cadwells Gold/Silver for example.
I completely forgot about that. Yeeeeeah, I don't see Alliance changes would be easy with how the questing system is designed. I mean it's bad enough when you use the race token that it still remembers your old race in certain situations. It'd be an even bigger mess when you add ARAA into that. Yiiiiiiikes.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!2 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭MrRudiculous wrote: »I'm curious as to wonder if you've heard or played any of the other Elder scrolls games and how you manage to find out about this game in the first place? But to be honest once you said you don't care about anything this game has to offer but you love it anyway got me thinking... Yeah typical troll right there.
Yes because I find the outside of game marketing suspect it must be a troll.0 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.
No. I just wanted to change race with the free token. Found it misleading by how it was named versus how it works . I would have same disappointment with marketed name of token whether it was free or had I purchased it. It's misleadingly named.
It's. In. Description. You're just arguing silly here. And you lost nothing, you didn't buy a token.
Please explain where in the description it says you’re locked to alliance-only races
All it says is you can change the race an appearance of a character and that you need to be on the character select screen to use the token
It doesn’t mention anything about the restrictions0 -
jd24✭✭✭IndyWendieGo wrote: »joedraper24b14_ESO wrote: »Hey ZOS could be like blizzard. Buff a racial (without the free tokens) so everyone has to pay for a race change. After the money slows down, they nerf said racial and people will pay to race change to something else.
Why not just buy a couple months of eso plus and use the crowns on the any race any alliance thing?
Because that would be logical. Or the OP is trolling.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nerf Khajiits again?
I feel like this is borderline equal to the flat earth argument...0 -
FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭MrRudiculous wrote: »I'm curious as to wonder if you've heard or played any of the other Elder scrolls games and how you manage to find out about this game in the first place? But to be honest once you said you don't care about anything this game has to offer but you love it anyway got me thinking... Yeah typical troll right there.
Yes because I find the outside of game marketing suspect it must be a troll.
It's how you're responding. You don't care to educate yourself, you obviously don't care, so people aren't going to bother to help you win your internet argument.
If you're not a troll, perhaps understanding how the game mechanics work with the lore is a starting place. Else it's only a matter of time until you get this thread closed too. Sooooooo... Good luck with that!Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!1 -
FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭joedraper24b14_ESO wrote: »IndyWendieGo wrote: »joedraper24b14_ESO wrote: »Hey ZOS could be like blizzard. Buff a racial (without the free tokens) so everyone has to pay for a race change. After the money slows down, they nerf said racial and people will pay to race change to something else.
Why not just buy a couple months of eso plus and use the crowns on the any race any alliance thing?
Because that would be logical. Or the OP is trolling.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nerf Khajiits again?
I feel like this is borderline equal to the flat earth argument...
It's the last part that's logical. ESO+ to use crowns for the ARAA upgrade. That's the logical side. The rest, not so much. Or it could be. If ZoS actually catered toward actual balance, but hey! Gotta get that ninja nerf reeeee-action in.Edited by FleetwoodSmack on February 26, 2019 2:10PMTell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!0 -
haelene✭✭✭✭✭
✭No. Buying an upgrade to use the free Change Race Token how I would want to use it is the only thing stopping me.
FFS.
how I would want to use
how I would want
how I
The crux of the problem, right there. You want it to do something it doesn't do. That's your fault, not the fault of ZOS, the game, or anyone else.
The race change token doesn't give you the ability to change your alliance, and it doesn't claim to. Without the ability to change your alliance, or the ability to have a character whose race doesn't match your alliance, you're going to be limited. That's how the game works. I don't know how we could be any more clear that the race change token isn't magic and doesn't grant you powers outside of changing your race. At this point I think you're being willfully ignorant, and that's on you too.
The sad thing is, I would totally support you getting access to ARAA if you would just admit that's what you want - I think many of us would. Ah well. I certainly tried! Can't win 'em all.5 -
MrRudiculous✭✭✭I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.
No. I just wanted to change race with the free token. Found it misleading by how it was named versus how it works . I would have same disappointment with marketed name of token whether it was free or had I purchased it. It's misleadingly named.
It's. In. Description. You're just arguing silly here. And you lost nothing, you didn't buy a token.
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ErMurazor✭✭✭✭✭The Young generation is full of spoiled kids that think they can get anything if they just cry loud enough. Welcome to the real world.1
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✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Um.... you need to read up on the Three Banners War so you have a basic idea how the game works....
Now, I don't go all faction crap myself - but then, I don't expect to change a Bosmer to an Orc or Redguard either. There are things about the game that are actually set in stone - unless you want to pay to "remove that stone".
Good luck with everything.
I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.
Um. You're playing this game WHY?
Nev'mind. I don't want to know.
I love the game.
You know, there are a LOT of games out where you can pvp/kill other players. If you aren't going to read anything, no background or story in the game is important to you, and you care about nothing other than your one narrow aspect of the game, you probably should find another game where the setting is very, very simple and doesn't require paying any attention whatsoever. If it isn't on your team, kill it; nice and basic. Unfortunately for you, this game isn't like that.
This game started as a 3 way pvp war. Red, Yellow, and Blue. You had three choices of race for each color; being as this original concept of the game was a *war*, there was a restriction on which races could be which color. The factions still exist; the restrictions still exist. The fact you pay attention to nothing really doesn't change that.2 -
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✭No. Buying an upgrade to use the free Change Race Token how I would want to use it is the only thing stopping me.
FFS.
how I would want to use
how I would want
how I
The crux of the problem, right there. You want it to do something it doesn't do. That's your fault, not the fault of ZOS, the game, or anyone else.
The race change token doesn't give you the ability to change your alliance, and it doesn't claim to. Without the ability to change your alliance, or the ability to have a character whose race doesn't match your alliance, you're going to be limited. That's how the game works. I don't know how we could be any more clear that the race change token isn't magic and doesn't grant you powers outside of changing your race. At this point I think you're being willfully ignorant, and that's on you too.
The sad thing is, I would totally support you getting access to ARAA if you would just admit that's what you want - I think many of us would. Ah well. I certainly tried! Can't win 'em all.
I think most of us tried. Either way, how many times have we brought back this dead horse? 10? 20 times?Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!0 -
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✭✭✭✭MrRudiculous wrote: »I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.
No. I just wanted to change race with the free token. Found it misleading by how it was named versus how it works . I would have same disappointment with marketed name of token whether it was free or had I purchased it. It's misleadingly named.
It's. In. Description. You're just arguing silly here. And you lost nothing, you didn't buy a token.
OP - 'no its misleading, i don't read descriptions'
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✭MrRudiculous wrote: »I have to admit I was a bit miffed when I paid for a race change token 6 months ago and then found
I would also have to pay for the adventurer pack to get the race I wanted. However that's on me, the information was out there I just didn't bother to check it first. Its a bit rich to be jumping up and down when you are given something for free, if what you want is to change to a race outside of your alliance then its the adventurer pack you need but you have still saved 2400 crowns on the race change token.
No. I just wanted to change race with the free token. Found it misleading by how it was named versus how it works . I would have same disappointment with marketed name of token whether it was free or had I purchased it. It's misleadingly named.
It's. In. Description. You're just arguing silly here. And you lost nothing, you didn't buy a token.
OP - 'no its misleading, i don't read descriptions'
But there actually is no clarification in the description, you can read it yourself
Can you make an Altmer a DC while creating a character? No?
"Can change the race of a character to another" doesn't mean "Can change the race of a character to ANY other".
Words have meaning, y'know.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!1
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