I love the RP flavored threads. I vote for a dedicated RP server where everyone can finally sit eternally in stealth while one shotting Raid bosses. Stealth as it’s implemented in ESO shouldn’t even be a part of the game.
I’ll instead just play and enjoy the game .
I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
@Uryel and @Everstorm
I retract my comment and apologize. After seeing this https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/455172/a-visual-of-khajiits-new-stealth-capability-stacking-is-quite-extreme at least. It’s a bit absurd I must admit.
I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
the stealthy passive only effects players chance of noticing you, not NPC's (it was purely a pvp skill) neither does the medium armor skill improved sneak, as it modified the same mechanic.
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stealthy does not effect pve.
I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
Why not both?
Why can’t we sneak and roll? Why does it have to be all or nothing with you people?
It’s a two part passive, we are asking for a change to one part. Geebus
Cundu_Ertur wrote: »I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
Why not both?
Why can’t we sneak and roll? Why does it have to be all or nothing with you people?
It’s a two part passive, we are asking for a change to one part. Geebus
It was a two part passive before, hide better and get a damage bonus out of sneak; and it is a two part now for both races that had the original -- the khajiit hide even better than before and get a critical bonus all the time, the bosmer see hidden things better (which is new) and move faster after a roll-dodge.
We are ONLY talking about the one part of the bosmer passive, where the ability to hide better was replaced with a useless ability to see hidden things; because we don't care about the rest. The rest is fine.
Cundu_Ertur wrote: »I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
Why not both?
Why can’t we sneak and roll? Why does it have to be all or nothing with you people?
It’s a two part passive, we are asking for a change to one part. Geebus
It was a two part passive before, hide better and get a damage bonus out of sneak; and it is a two part now for both races that had the original -- the khajiit hide even better than before and get a critical bonus all the time, the bosmer see hidden things better (which is new) and move faster after a roll-dodge.
We are ONLY talking about the one part of the bosmer passive, where the ability to hide better was replaced with a useless ability to see hidden things; because we don't care about the rest. The rest is fine.
I know that... the person I was replying to made it seem like we were dumb to ask for stealth back because we got roll dodge boost. Why can’t we have both our current stealth passive AND the roll dodge passive?
Cundu_Ertur wrote: »Cundu_Ertur wrote: »I don't think people understand how much of a trolly buff bosmer just got. That movement speed is awesome, and you're an idiot if you want a stealth passive over it.
Why not both?
Why can’t we sneak and roll? Why does it have to be all or nothing with you people?
It’s a two part passive, we are asking for a change to one part. Geebus
It was a two part passive before, hide better and get a damage bonus out of sneak; and it is a two part now for both races that had the original -- the khajiit hide even better than before and get a critical bonus all the time, the bosmer see hidden things better (which is new) and move faster after a roll-dodge.
We are ONLY talking about the one part of the bosmer passive, where the ability to hide better was replaced with a useless ability to see hidden things; because we don't care about the rest. The rest is fine.
I know that... the person I was replying to made it seem like we were dumb to ask for stealth back because we got roll dodge boost. Why can’t we have both our current stealth passive AND the roll dodge passive?
Just bolstering your argument, we're in full agreement. Or near enough for government work.
StarOfElyon wrote: »You can still hide and snipe.
StarOfElyon wrote: »You can still hide and snipe.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend that there are a ton of players out there who do not care for PvP. I don't give a flying hoot about sniping. I just want my character to keep functioning the way it did when I made her, since the stealth passive was the very reason I picked this race.
StarOfElyon wrote: »You can still hide and snipe.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend that there are a ton of players out there who do not care for PvP. I don't give a flying hoot about sniping. I just want my character to keep functioning the way it did when I made her, since the stealth passive was the very reason I picked this race.
Except the game can not and should never be balanced by non PvP/high level PvE
The uses of stealth is completely useless in high level PvE, and only useful in PvP. Meaning that they needed to balance the stealth mechanic for it.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend how video games can't be balanced for people that aren't doing the end game content
StarOfElyon wrote: »You can still hide and snipe.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend that there are a ton of players out there who do not care for PvP. I don't give a flying hoot about sniping. I just want my character to keep functioning the way it did when I made her, since the stealth passive was the very reason I picked this race.
Except the game can not and should never be balanced by non PvP/high level PvE
The uses of stealth is completely useless in high level PvE, and only useful in PvP. Meaning that they needed to balance the stealth mechanic for it.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend how video games can't be balanced for people that aren't doing the end game content
StarOfElyon wrote: »You can still hide and snipe.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend that there are a ton of players out there who do not care for PvP. I don't give a flying hoot about sniping. I just want my character to keep functioning the way it did when I made her, since the stealth passive was the very reason I picked this race.
Except the game can not and should never be balanced by non PvP/high level PvE
The uses of stealth is completely useless in high level PvE, and only useful in PvP. Meaning that they needed to balance the stealth mechanic for it.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend how video games can't be balanced for people that aren't doing the end game content
Neither better stealth nor better detection has any measurable effect on high end pve or pvp so it is completely irrelevant to your balancing mantra. It does absolutely no harm to your playstyle either way, yet letting the bosmer keep their stealth would make a lot of people happy. And most players do not participate in high end stuff but they are paying just as much or little for the game as you. Keeping them happy and paying will also benefit your prefered playstyle.
StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »You can still hide and snipe.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend that there are a ton of players out there who do not care for PvP. I don't give a flying hoot about sniping. I just want my character to keep functioning the way it did when I made her, since the stealth passive was the very reason I picked this race.
Except the game can not and should never be balanced by non PvP/high level PvE
The uses of stealth is completely useless in high level PvE, and only useful in PvP. Meaning that they needed to balance the stealth mechanic for it.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend how video games can't be balanced for people that aren't doing the end game content
Neither better stealth nor better detection has any measurable effect on high end pve or pvp so it is completely irrelevant to your balancing mantra. It does absolutely no harm to your playstyle either way, yet letting the bosmer keep their stealth would make a lot of people happy. And most players do not participate in high end stuff but they are paying just as much or little for the game as you. Keeping them happy and paying will also benefit your prefered playstyle.
To say that stealth has no measurable effect on pvp is nonsense. NBs are annoying as crap because of their invisibility and their damage from stealth makes their gank-play possible. Bosmers already have great bow use. They don't even have to put themselves in harms way. I've been killed from poison arrows so many times it's ridiculous, and I never saw who it was that shot me. Were they cloaked? I don't know. I was shot in the back or the side from a long distance while I was distracted. With that kind of ability, adding more stealth ability makes it redundant (in an op way).
StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »You can still hide and snipe.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend that there are a ton of players out there who do not care for PvP. I don't give a flying hoot about sniping. I just want my character to keep functioning the way it did when I made her, since the stealth passive was the very reason I picked this race.
Except the game can not and should never be balanced by non PvP/high level PvE
The uses of stealth is completely useless in high level PvE, and only useful in PvP. Meaning that they needed to balance the stealth mechanic for it.
It's bewildering how some people can't comprehend how video games can't be balanced for people that aren't doing the end game content
Neither better stealth nor better detection has any measurable effect on high end pve or pvp so it is completely irrelevant to your balancing mantra. It does absolutely no harm to your playstyle either way, yet letting the bosmer keep their stealth would make a lot of people happy. And most players do not participate in high end stuff but they are paying just as much or little for the game as you. Keeping them happy and paying will also benefit your prefered playstyle.
To say that stealth has no measurable effect on pvp is nonsense. NBs are annoying as crap because of their invisibility and their damage from stealth makes their gank-play possible. Bosmers already have great bow use.
Lord_Dexter wrote: »OP wants no balance but Bosmer to be an ultimate Race!
StarOfElyon wrote: »To say that stealth has no measurable effect on pvp is nonsense. NBs are annoying as crap because of their invisibility and their damage from stealth makes their gank-play possible. Bosmers already have great bow use.
Snipers already shoot from far away to get the damage bonus from the archery passive so for them those 3m stealth bonus is irrelevant. Bosmer only get a 15% bonus to learning the archery skills, also irrelevant for anything combat related.