LightMaster7 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.
It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...
Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).
And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.
welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.
Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.
People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.
LightMaster7 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.
It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...
Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).
And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.
welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.
Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.
People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.
I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.
Lots of people asked for racial changes for years.Bouldercleave wrote: »The funniest part of this whole thing is that this is something that WE asked for, begged for, and DEMANDED for months.
Well boys and girls - they listened and you got exactly what you all asked for.
We as a community are an absolute hilarious tragedy.
Logical fallacy. Not everybody in the community asks for the same things. I understand ZOS can't address everybody individually but what you're saying is just a tad silly. This guy may have never asked for or wanted racial passive changes.
I know I never asked for it (not that I care anyway.) We as a community aren't a communist society, we don't share one communal idea. Every choice made for the game is bound to be loved by many and equally hated by many.
I cringe when somebody makes this comment: "LOL WE ASKED FOR IT" .... no WE didn't.... you might have though, and others might have. We don't even have democracy here either, there's no proof of majority rule. There's nothing to substantiate your comment. We don't vote on game changes - and the forums and "dozens of posts" don't constitute the community as a whole and their wishes.
Sylvermynx wrote: »*shrug* If you don't provide actual data (as in where, and what the target group was, etc.) it's fair useless. I'm not saying I disagree with the graph you posted, but then again, ESO isn't honestly part of the TES "lineage". Leaving ESO out of your "posted results" - the rest is probably spot on.
Yeah, everyone was asking for changing something that was not needed <except little tweeks> and possibly destroying his build in the result. Meanwhile, nobody was asking for fixing connection issues, lags, launcher problems and bugs which has been here since ages. I think that game developers should stop to listen to some miniority and youtubers....Lots of people asked for racial changes for years.
Nobody's builds are destroyed, or rather Dunmer magdK still work fine.Yeah, everyone was asking for changing something that was not needed <except little tweeks> and possibly destroying his build in the result. Meanwhile, nobody was asking for fixing connection issues, lags, launcher problems and bugs which has been here since ages. I think that game developers should stop to listen to some miniority and youtubers....Lots of people asked for racial changes for years.
VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »I still cling to my Argonian NB tank that I've had since launch of this game. I'll generally just 'deal with' whatever happens.
However, I am concerned about one of my characters this time. My Magicka based, shield spamming Dunmer Sorcerer Tank that also uses the Twilight Matriarch for off healing, And Grothdarr or Infernal Guardian for more passive damage. With the changes being made, that is probably going to be my least effective combination during combat.
Gaining spell damage barely does anything for me as a Sorcerer Tank, nor my Twilight as it scales off of max magicka, like Shields do. It'll also no longer boost the damage of Monster sets, which the direct boost to Flame damage does. So assuming there are no adjustments to the Dunmer Race passives, I'm kind of sad about that particular character of mine.
Pet scale changed. Go read the notes again and it may help you feel better about it
Sylvermynx wrote: »*shrug* If you don't provide actual data (as in where, and what the target group was, etc.) it's fair useless. I'm not saying I disagree with the graph you posted, but then again, ESO isn't honestly part of the TES "lineage". Leaving ESO out of your "posted results" - the rest is probably spot on.
Sylvermynx wrote: »*shrug* If you don't provide actual data (as in where, and what the target group was, etc.) it's fair useless. I'm not saying I disagree with the graph you posted, but then again, ESO isn't honestly part of the TES "lineage". Leaving ESO out of your "posted results" - the rest is probably spot on.
This is the poll posted in the general MMO forum with like 90k+ people. I could post it in many other different ones but this was the easiest to find. Yes, I know I forgot to add a few more but oh well.
LightMaster7 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.
It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...
Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).
And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.
welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.
Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.
People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.
I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.
LightMaster7 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.
It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...
Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).
And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.
welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.
Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.
People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.
I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.
I'm not sure how this shows that the game is dying or how there is going to be a mass migration which is what the comment I responded to was saying.
Well they could always change eso racials to work like in Skyrim who is the most popular gameLightMaster7 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.
It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...
Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).
And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.
welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.
Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.
People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.
I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.
Its good for the game. Not that the racials was very important they was an 10% buff in best case.Just because you don't like the changes doesn't mean they aren't fundamentally good for the game. Personally, I'm excited about the changes. As always I highly recommend everyone gets on the PTS to test and provide feedback.
LightMaster7 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.
It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...
Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).
And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.
welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.
Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.
People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.
I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.
I'm not sure how this shows that the game is dying or how there is going to be a mass migration which is what the comment I responded to was saying.
Did I ever say it's dying? I said the game is living off confirmation bias and it's not really that good. I knew this forum was giving me a guilt trip for not liking ESO as much as I wish I did. So far Guild Wars 2 sounds way better but I'll also look into FF.
Sabbathius wrote: »I just wish they would let us have a week, or even just a weekend, of free race/name changes. I'm fine with the need to rebalance, but when they completely WRECK highly optimized, role-play-named characters with these changes, it's really hard to swallow. I'm sitting at 14 chars right now, and there's no way in HECK that I will pay them 3,500 x 14 = 50k crowns just to get them back to optimal. I know ZOS is a super-greedy bunch, but this is absurd. And facing the prospect of spending years playing sub-optimal characters, after spending many, many months making these characters individually as optimal, does not feel good.
In short, racial review is fine. But give us a week of free race/name changes so we can rebuild our WRECKED character lineup. Convenience store rules: you break it, you pay for it. You broke it, but now you want US to pay for it. Not cool, dudes, not cool.
Kalle_Demos wrote: »Sabbathius wrote: »I just wish they would let us have a week, or even just a weekend, of free race/name changes. I'm fine with the need to rebalance, but when they completely WRECK highly optimized, role-play-named characters with these changes, it's really hard to swallow. I'm sitting at 14 chars right now, and there's no way in HECK that I will pay them 3,500 x 14 = 50k crowns just to get them back to optimal. I know ZOS is a super-greedy bunch, but this is absurd. And facing the prospect of spending years playing sub-optimal characters, after spending many, many months making these characters individually as optimal, does not feel good.
In short, racial review is fine. But give us a week of free race/name changes so we can rebuild our WRECKED character lineup. Convenience store rules: you break it, you pay for it. You broke it, but now you want US to pay for it. Not cool, dudes, not cool.
Tone-deaf is the word on the street these days. Not only did Race Change Tokens go on sale right on time, I'm old enough to remember when Zos said they had 'heard' our feedback on heavy handed changes. Now this. With more nerfs as a bonus.
LightMaster7 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.
It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...
Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).
And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.
welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.
Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.
People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.
I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.
I'm not sure how this shows that the game is dying or how there is going to be a mass migration which is what the comment I responded to was saying.
Did I ever say it's dying? I said the game is living off confirmation bias and it's not really that good. I knew this forum was giving me a guilt trip for not liking ESO as much as I wish I did. So far Guild Wars 2 sounds way better but I'll also look into FF.
Kalle_Demos wrote: »Sabbathius wrote: »I just wish they would let us have a week, or even just a weekend, of free race/name changes. I'm fine with the need to rebalance, but when they completely WRECK highly optimized, role-play-named characters with these changes, it's really hard to swallow. I'm sitting at 14 chars right now, and there's no way in HECK that I will pay them 3,500 x 14 = 50k crowns just to get them back to optimal. I know ZOS is a super-greedy bunch, but this is absurd. And facing the prospect of spending years playing sub-optimal characters, after spending many, many months making these characters individually as optimal, does not feel good.
In short, racial review is fine. But give us a week of free race/name changes so we can rebuild our WRECKED character lineup. Convenience store rules: you break it, you pay for it. You broke it, but now you want US to pay for it. Not cool, dudes, not cool.
Tone-deaf is the word on the street these days. Not only did Race Change Tokens go on sale right on time, I'm old enough to remember when Zos said they had 'heard' our feedback on heavy handed changes. Now this. With more nerfs as a bonus.
Do you honestly think this was heavy handed? O.o damn, son... You need to learn a thing or two about life...