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They're actually going through with the racial changes...

  • Vhozek
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    Ogou wrote: »
    nsmurfer wrote: »

    Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.

    It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...

    Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).

    And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.

    welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.

    Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.

    People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.

    I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.

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    Edited by Vhozek on January 24, 2019 4:51AM
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • Sylvermynx
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    *shrug* If you don't provide actual data (as in where, and what the target group was, etc.) it's fair useless. I'm not saying I disagree with the graph you posted, but then again, ESO isn't honestly part of the TES "lineage". Leaving ESO out of your "posted results" - the rest is probably spot on.
  • Kalle_Demos
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    nsmurfer wrote: »

    Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.

    It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...

    Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).

    And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.

    welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.

    Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.

    People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.

    I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.

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    I think ESO is a pretty popular ES game. That's exactly why many players are here, because ESO is a continuation of a series they have enjoyed for years. And that's in part why we are upset with the racial update. If ESO continues to look and feel less and less like an ES game then people will leave.

    "If I am to be Queen, I must look fear in the face and conquer it. How can I ask my people to have faith in me if I don't have faith in myself?" - Queen Ayrenn
  • zaria
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    lagrue wrote: »
    The funniest part of this whole thing is that this is something that WE asked for, begged for, and DEMANDED for months.
    Well boys and girls - they listened and you got exactly what you all asked for.
    We as a community are an absolute hilarious tragedy.

    Logical fallacy. Not everybody in the community asks for the same things. I understand ZOS can't address everybody individually but what you're saying is just a tad silly. This guy may have never asked for or wanted racial passive changes.

    I know I never asked for it (not that I care anyway.) We as a community aren't a communist society, we don't share one communal idea. Every choice made for the game is bound to be loved by many and equally hated by many.

    I cringe when somebody makes this comment: "LOL WE ASKED FOR IT" .... no WE didn't.... you might have though, and others might have. We don't even have democracy here either, there's no proof of majority rule. There's nothing to substantiate your comment. We don't vote on game changes - and the forums and "dozens of posts" don't constitute the community as a whole and their wishes.
    Lots of people asked for racial changes for years.
    I expected current changes to be an hard nerf as that would balance races to.
    Ended up very happy.

    Then you have an group of e-pen wagers arguing about 300 damage on 50-60K parses.
    Or demand that their race should be 10% better than the others, yes that is so realistic.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Vhozek
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    *shrug* If you don't provide actual data (as in where, and what the target group was, etc.) it's fair useless. I'm not saying I disagree with the graph you posted, but then again, ESO isn't honestly part of the TES "lineage". Leaving ESO out of your "posted results" - the rest is probably spot on.

    I already said it was in a general TES forum. A big one. I'll do it again in a general MMO forum just as big if not bigger. General meaning they don't only talk about one.
    The only reason I don't mention which forum is because I don't want primarily ESO people to rig the balance of the poll. Otherwise I might as well just post the poll in this forum and keep going on about how this game is good from confirmation bias.
    I do want MMO people to also get to vote because ESO is not only a TES game, so I'll be making a different poll in a general MMO forum.
    Each one has 100k members on average.
    Edited by Vhozek on January 24, 2019 6:11AM
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • Commancho
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    zaria wrote: »
    Lots of people asked for racial changes for years.
    Yeah, everyone was asking for changing something that was not needed <except little tweeks> and possibly destroying his build in the result. Meanwhile, nobody was asking for fixing connection issues, lags, launcher problems and bugs which has been here since ages. I think that game developers should stop to listen to some miniority and youtubers....
    Edited by Commancho on January 24, 2019 6:15AM
  • zaria
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    Commancho wrote: »
    zaria wrote: »
    Lots of people asked for racial changes for years.
    Yeah, everyone was asking for changing something that was not needed <except little tweeks> and possibly destroying his build in the result. Meanwhile, nobody was asking for fixing connection issues, lags, launcher problems and bugs which has been here since ages. I think that game developers should stop to listen to some miniority and youtubers....
    Nobody's builds are destroyed, or rather Dunmer magdK still work fine.
    No they are not bis anymore but neither is stamblade because the DW changes.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Intextio
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    Even after we have a comprehensive post showing that none of the builds or races were ruined people are still bitching! Unreal!
  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    I still cling to my Argonian NB tank that I've had since launch of this game. I'll generally just 'deal with' whatever happens.

    However, I am concerned about one of my characters this time. My Magicka based, shield spamming Dunmer Sorcerer Tank that also uses the Twilight Matriarch for off healing, And Grothdarr or Infernal Guardian for more passive damage. With the changes being made, that is probably going to be my least effective combination during combat.

    Gaining spell damage barely does anything for me as a Sorcerer Tank, nor my Twilight as it scales off of max magicka, like Shields do. It'll also no longer boost the damage of Monster sets, which the direct boost to Flame damage does. So assuming there are no adjustments to the Dunmer Race passives, I'm kind of sad about that particular character of mine.
    || AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
    || DC - Ja'Kiro Feral-Heart Lv50 Khajiit Dragonknight (Damage) || EP - VaxtinTheWolf Lv50 Redguard Templar (Tank) || AD - Velik Iranis Lv50 Dark Elf Sorcerer (Tank ) ||
    || EP - Einvarg The Frozen Lv50 Nord Warden (Tank/Healer) || EP - Keem-Ja Lv4 Argonian Necromancer (Healer/Tank) ||
    PC - North American Server (Champion 1300+)
  • ZonasArch
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    I still cling to my Argonian NB tank that I've had since launch of this game. I'll generally just 'deal with' whatever happens.

    However, I am concerned about one of my characters this time. My Magicka based, shield spamming Dunmer Sorcerer Tank that also uses the Twilight Matriarch for off healing, And Grothdarr or Infernal Guardian for more passive damage. With the changes being made, that is probably going to be my least effective combination during combat.

    Gaining spell damage barely does anything for me as a Sorcerer Tank, nor my Twilight as it scales off of max magicka, like Shields do. It'll also no longer boost the damage of Monster sets, which the direct boost to Flame damage does. So assuming there are no adjustments to the Dunmer Race passives, I'm kind of sad about that particular character of mine.

    Pet scale changed. Go read the notes again and it may help you feel better about it :)
    Edited by ZonasArch on January 24, 2019 7:46AM
  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Pet scale changed. Go read the notes again and it may help you feel better about it :)

    It does not specifically state that spell damage will bring them any benefit, just that % based bonuses will. I also use Necropotence to further boost my Magicka on that build, which gave be around a 38-40k maximum for boosting the matriarch heal to an 8k tooltip.
    || AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
    || DC - Ja'Kiro Feral-Heart Lv50 Khajiit Dragonknight (Damage) || EP - VaxtinTheWolf Lv50 Redguard Templar (Tank) || AD - Velik Iranis Lv50 Dark Elf Sorcerer (Tank ) ||
    || EP - Einvarg The Frozen Lv50 Nord Warden (Tank/Healer) || EP - Keem-Ja Lv4 Argonian Necromancer (Healer/Tank) ||
    PC - North American Server (Champion 1300+)
  • Vhozek
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    *shrug* If you don't provide actual data (as in where, and what the target group was, etc.) it's fair useless. I'm not saying I disagree with the graph you posted, but then again, ESO isn't honestly part of the TES "lineage". Leaving ESO out of your "posted results" - the rest is probably spot on.

    This is the poll posted in the general MMO forum with like 90k+ people. I could post it in many other different ones but this was the easiest to find. Yes, I know I forgot to add a few more but oh well.

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    Edited by Vhozek on January 24, 2019 6:39PM
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • Flipityflu
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    a poll with 104 responses, and another with 194 responses

    whatever you are trying to prove with these i have no idea. Unless you are trying to prove that these polls are statistically meaningless of course.

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  • ZonasArch
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    *shrug* If you don't provide actual data (as in where, and what the target group was, etc.) it's fair useless. I'm not saying I disagree with the graph you posted, but then again, ESO isn't honestly part of the TES "lineage". Leaving ESO out of your "posted results" - the rest is probably spot on.

    This is the poll posted in the general MMO forum with like 90k+ people. I could post it in many other different ones but this was the easiest to find. Yes, I know I forgot to add a few more but oh well.

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    Doesn't matter that the forum has 90k+ people. You only have 150 or so votes. 150 people, as an audience, is 100% irrelevant. As a reference, in 5 yeaos if ESO, an average of 6 THOUSAND people bought the game every day. You're polling with 150.... Notice just how out if scale your data is? "Data", even. Irrelevant data isn't data, is just noise. Technical term.
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    nsmurfer wrote: »

    Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.

    It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...

    Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).

    And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.

    welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.

    Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.

    People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.

    I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.

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    I'm not sure how this shows that the game is dying or how there is going to be a mass migration which is what the comment I responded to was saying.
  • Vhozek
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    This poll actually made me look into Guild Wars 2 since the minute I posted it and now I'm hooked. ESO is my first MMO and I only play it cause it's a TES game but I'm really really liking Guild Wars 2 skill lines and mounts right now.
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • Vhozek
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    Ogou wrote: »
    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    nsmurfer wrote: »

    Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.

    It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...

    Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).

    And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.

    welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.

    Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.

    People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.

    I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.

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    I'm not sure how this shows that the game is dying or how there is going to be a mass migration which is what the comment I responded to was saying.

    Did I ever say it's dying? I said the game is living off confirmation bias and it's not really that good. I knew this forum was giving me a guilt trip for not liking ESO as much as I wish I did. So far Guild Wars 2 sounds way better but I'll also look into FF.
    Edited by Vhozek on January 24, 2019 7:26PM
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • zaria
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    nsmurfer wrote: »

    Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.

    It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...

    Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).

    And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.

    welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.

    Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.

    People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.

    I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.

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    Well they could always change eso racials to work like in Skyrim who is the most popular game :)
    You start with some values in some skill lines and have some resistance.
    And a racial skill who did not scale with your level.
    Racial balance solved.


    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    Just because you don't like the changes doesn't mean they aren't fundamentally good for the game. Personally, I'm excited about the changes. As always I highly recommend everyone gets on the PTS to test and provide feedback.
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    I just wish they would let us have a week, or even just a weekend, of free race/name changes. I'm fine with the need to rebalance, but when they completely WRECK highly optimized, role-play-named characters with these changes, it's really hard to swallow. I'm sitting at 14 chars right now, and there's no way in HECK that I will pay them 3,500 x 14 = 50k crowns just to get them back to optimal. I know ZOS is a super-greedy bunch, but this is absurd. And facing the prospect of spending years playing sub-optimal characters, after spending many, many months making these characters individually as optimal, does not feel good.

    In short, racial review is fine. But give us a week of free race/name changes so we can rebuild our WRECKED character lineup. Convenience store rules: you break it, you pay for it. You broke it, but now you want US to pay for it. Not cool, dudes, not cool.
  • Shantu
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    Get used to it and adapt. After Nerfmire, it's pretty clear these developers know SO much more about the game than we do.
  • zaria
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    PathwayM wrote: »
    Just because you don't like the changes doesn't mean they aren't fundamentally good for the game. Personally, I'm excited about the changes. As always I highly recommend everyone gets on the PTS to test and provide feedback.
    Its good for the game. Not that the racials was very important they was an 10% buff in best case.
    However the player base has blown this out of scale by an order of magnitude.
    Then idiots start kicking players from dungeons for having selected the wrong race then they started the game.
    Well that will start to impacting the bottomline over time.
    I expected and morrowind style nerf and racials ending up more like in Skyrim
    Instead I was very pleased.
    Yes mostly because Khajiit ended up as an hybrid race :smiley:

    Overall statistic for the new racials
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5761597/#Comment_5761597
    Balanced down to 1.3% for relevant builds, note that Khajiit and Dunmer will suffer more in more unorganized groups. But this will change with new sets. It look like armor sets are racial now and not the style. They can also jump between magic and stamina so major nerf resistance is an racial pasive.

    However note how off meta races end up, an bosmer magpblade does 4.5% less an Breton and out dps him if he is magDK.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Sevn
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    nsmurfer wrote: »

    Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.

    It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...

    Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).

    And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.

    welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.

    Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.

    People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.

    I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.

    ekEBl1w.png

    I'm not sure how this shows that the game is dying or how there is going to be a mass migration which is what the comment I responded to was saying.

    Did I ever say it's dying? I said the game is living off confirmation bias and it's not really that good. I knew this forum was giving me a guilt trip for not liking ESO as much as I wish I did. So far Guild Wars 2 sounds way better but I'll also look into FF.


    Hope you have fun playing those games. I'm sure everyone here will somehow carry on without your presence though. Bye felicia.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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  • Kalle_Demos
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    Sabbathius wrote: »
    I just wish they would let us have a week, or even just a weekend, of free race/name changes. I'm fine with the need to rebalance, but when they completely WRECK highly optimized, role-play-named characters with these changes, it's really hard to swallow. I'm sitting at 14 chars right now, and there's no way in HECK that I will pay them 3,500 x 14 = 50k crowns just to get them back to optimal. I know ZOS is a super-greedy bunch, but this is absurd. And facing the prospect of spending years playing sub-optimal characters, after spending many, many months making these characters individually as optimal, does not feel good.

    In short, racial review is fine. But give us a week of free race/name changes so we can rebuild our WRECKED character lineup. Convenience store rules: you break it, you pay for it. You broke it, but now you want US to pay for it. Not cool, dudes, not cool.

    Tone-deaf is the word on the street these days. Not only did Race Change Tokens go on sale right on time, I'm old enough to remember when Zos said they had 'heard' our feedback on heavy handed changes. Now this. With more nerfs as a bonus.

    "If I am to be Queen, I must look fear in the face and conquer it. How can I ask my people to have faith in me if I don't have faith in myself?" - Queen Ayrenn
  • ZonasArch
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    Sabbathius wrote: »
    I just wish they would let us have a week, or even just a weekend, of free race/name changes. I'm fine with the need to rebalance, but when they completely WRECK highly optimized, role-play-named characters with these changes, it's really hard to swallow. I'm sitting at 14 chars right now, and there's no way in HECK that I will pay them 3,500 x 14 = 50k crowns just to get them back to optimal. I know ZOS is a super-greedy bunch, but this is absurd. And facing the prospect of spending years playing sub-optimal characters, after spending many, many months making these characters individually as optimal, does not feel good.

    In short, racial review is fine. But give us a week of free race/name changes so we can rebuild our WRECKED character lineup. Convenience store rules: you break it, you pay for it. You broke it, but now you want US to pay for it. Not cool, dudes, not cool.

    Tone-deaf is the word on the street these days. Not only did Race Change Tokens go on sale right on time, I'm old enough to remember when Zos said they had 'heard' our feedback on heavy handed changes. Now this. With more nerfs as a bonus.

    Do you honestly think this was heavy handed? O.o damn, son... You need to learn a thing or two about life...
  • Oberstein
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    Those changes feels fine except imperial one because people paid money for imperial race now they going to change that.
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  • witchdoctor
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    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    Vhozek wrote: »
    Ogou wrote: »
    nsmurfer wrote: »

    Where is the comparison with Altmer or a Breton there? just a Khajiit magicka build DPS test. It is not self-buffed either. And, it is not multiple tests either to find the mean either. Statistics does not work that way.

    It helps to read the comments section of a video sometimes...

    Other tests are all there. The DPS range is given for each set of tests (they ran a series for every race, not just one test).

    And you never test self-buffed if you want to compare different things. You want to see what your DPS will be like in a group setting since all endgame content is done in groups.

    welp if they go through with these changes it will literally be the last day I log in.

    Stupidity will kill this game as its been going through that path. And trust me, I aint the only one thats going to be leaving. There will be a mass migration, you can count on it.

    People have said that multiple times before. Yet, here we are.

    I don't know but it is actually a fact that this game is living off confirmation bias. The polls only say people like the game when the poll is made in these forums. This poll was made in a general TES forum. I won't post where because all the ESO people will just break the balance. I plan to make another one in a general MMO forum.

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    I'm not sure how this shows that the game is dying or how there is going to be a mass migration which is what the comment I responded to was saying.

    Did I ever say it's dying? I said the game is living off confirmation bias and it's not really that good. I knew this forum was giving me a guilt trip for not liking ESO as much as I wish I did. So far Guild Wars 2 sounds way better but I'll also look into FF.

    The only confirmation bias I see is from you posting clearly statistically meaningless 'polls' and citing them as, anything.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    For the first time in a long while, my Khajiit stamina nightblade might actually be near the top in performance for a month or so, until it's gets nerfed back into ground. I plan on enjoying that month before going back to the usual grind B) .
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  • madeeh91rwb17_ESO
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    Just give
    Storm damage and magicka exclusivity to Altmer.
    Magicka-heavy Hybridity and flame damage to the Dunmer

    And for the love of Hunding replace the Redguard weapons ability reduction to stamina only ability reduction, like Bretons.
    How come redguard get better at using staves than elves? (also it restricts them from using class abilities)
    Edited by madeeh91rwb17_ESO on January 25, 2019 2:29PM
  • Kalle_Demos
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Sabbathius wrote: »
    I just wish they would let us have a week, or even just a weekend, of free race/name changes. I'm fine with the need to rebalance, but when they completely WRECK highly optimized, role-play-named characters with these changes, it's really hard to swallow. I'm sitting at 14 chars right now, and there's no way in HECK that I will pay them 3,500 x 14 = 50k crowns just to get them back to optimal. I know ZOS is a super-greedy bunch, but this is absurd. And facing the prospect of spending years playing sub-optimal characters, after spending many, many months making these characters individually as optimal, does not feel good.

    In short, racial review is fine. But give us a week of free race/name changes so we can rebuild our WRECKED character lineup. Convenience store rules: you break it, you pay for it. You broke it, but now you want US to pay for it. Not cool, dudes, not cool.

    Tone-deaf is the word on the street these days. Not only did Race Change Tokens go on sale right on time, I'm old enough to remember when Zos said they had 'heard' our feedback on heavy handed changes. Now this. With more nerfs as a bonus.

    Do you honestly think this was heavy handed? O.o damn, son... You need to learn a thing or two about life...

    Zos knows they are heavy handed. Why would they give Race Change Tokens for free if they didn't think their changes would warrant one?

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