I just said it on a different thread

OP is anything that can be placed on any build and be effective

This is that, by a lot

Waffennacht wrote: »

Want it to be a healer set?

Make it work only on other players and not yourself - healer set

To make it not OP, up the cool down (here is where math would be important i.e. does 4 sec cool down gut it or balance it?)

As is, way too good

Making it on other's only would make it still problematic by your argument due to allies stacking it.

Upping the CD will gut it. As is, if you're trying to use this set as a healer set it's already pretty bad because purging 2 effects every 2 seconds while another 20 are cast on your allies is bad.

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

And again. Everyone screaming it's OP without actually testing it.

So here's your challenge, same as the other thread for PvP, write down your burst combo and your enchants/poisons. Then let us count the number of debuffs/snares/dots and let us see where we stand. And be honest.
If you come back telling me you run a hardening enchant and a mag drain with no siphoner cp etc then everyone here will know you're lying or not in a position to advise on PvP.

And to the magblade going to stop running cloak for this set please do. Makes you an easy target when you realise most specs can apply around 8 negative effects in a second 😂.

We're talking skill procs, ground dots, snares, poisons and status effects. If it takes 4 players procs to purge you for a second and the effects can just reapply them then unless we're 1v4 then eventually they'll proc on another and you'll get melted.

Plenty of magblades run ranged without cloak, slotting shields instead. So it isn't that crazy of a thing to do. This set just makes that easier by purging dots.

mb10 wrote: »

lmao healers?

The problem is any normal DPS will be purging themselves every 2 seconds in PVP
The issue here isnt healers lol

With the amount of snares and *** that is all around only 2 purges isn't a lot. Also everyone uses 1 point in siphoner so if you were to nerf it by making it only purge 1 effect it would be largely negated because of siphoner so I largely suggest against this. Perhaps make the amount of magicka restored 125 if you have to nerf it.

Why do people want to make this set unviable for solo play, magicka solo builds are already bad open world, can't they get a bone thrown at them for once? There was a ton of good group sets added this patch lol.

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

kojou wrote: »

I say nerf it to the ground so the PvP'ers will have something else to whine about. I don't want to see 10 posts a day about how powerful this set is...

As to the OP, Sorry, it probably seemed like a good idea to the developer at the time.

PvP'ers will whine about anything and everything anyway. Every update there is a "THE SKY IS FALLING OMG" scenario. sometimes warranted (Soldier of Anguish) and sometimes not.

I'll always remember someone in my guild, a big PvP'er when they introduced Vicious Death telling me they had to nerf it as there would be "zergs of vamp sorcs using it with Proxy Det and Devouring Swarm"..... safe to say that in that patch i found a grand total of 4 sorcs trying that setup, and most died before the det went off.

So all we do is provide evidence one way or the other for the sets in question and hope it's all sorted either way.

I mean a lot of people were using it when it first came out. Mag nb more so than other mag classes.

Scarpion wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQ0KP91NW8

Who needs cc break when a set does it for you

All I need to say about this set

lmfaoooo. What is this nonsense!?

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

Scarpion wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQ0KP91NW8

Who needs cc break when a set does it for you

All I need to say about this set

Ok, now have that DK apply proper dots and repeat. and make it longer. a 3 second video does not show anything of use. a dk applying only fossilize is HIGHLY unlikely. If this was 20 seconds and scrubbing off all DK dots and breaking you free then we may have grounds for concern.

that in that 3 second clip there was literally no dots on you shows you were simply testing 1 effect of it.

I don't think you understand just how overpowered instant free cc break is, as well as purging delayed burst like Curse and Backlash. You don't even need to have every little effect purged, just messing with those two at any point during a build-up is going to ruin the entire combo.

It would still be a very strong set if it worked on just direct heals with a cooldown of ~5 seconds. As it is, it's a no brainer to use on any magicka build.

Pelican wrote: »

https://streamable.com/lr4lu
Just so you guys know what curse eater does.

omegalul

Pelican wrote: »

https://streamable.com/lr4lu
Just so you guys know what curse eater does.
It auto breaks almost ALL CCs for you, without you having to spend any stamina and giving you cc immunity.
2 abilities purged every 2 seconds is way too much, the cooldown needs to be nerfed to 6 or 8 seconds at least

Again, all you are doing is simply applying the cc on its own or with 1 burning. Now as a mag sorc you may not have more.

This is like me hitting only embers on a magplar and claiming ritual of retribution is broken because it cleanses it and the snare.

When it's breaking people free of fossilize instantly when a mag or stam DK has loaded them up with with dots, snares etc. Then i'll consider it broken.

As it stands if you're applying one or 2 negative effects and crying it's removing those negative effects you're either not reading it AT ALL or you're wilfully trying to get something nerfed.

So that is what i'll say to the community. If we want something balanced it's not crying on the forums to be done, provide actual balanced evidence.

Show us it doing this when their debuff screen is covered with snares, poisons, dots, burning/bleeds and then breaking people out of stuns. Show me this and i'll back it with a new thread linking then all stating "ZOS REWORK THIS."

Literally every clip shown so far is casting a single ability and crying it's broken.

*And yes i'm saying DK's because we're the "DOT CLASS"

Tasear wrote: »

With all the threads curse eater is OP. I wanted one to say it will be great set for healers in pvp and pve. So if changes must be made please consider application that this set has on healers.

Are you a Zergling by any chance?

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

As it stands if you're applying one or 2 negative effects and crying it's removing those negative effects you're either not reading it AT ALL or you're wilfully trying to get something nerfed.

Well, yes... we are willfully trying to get something nerfed.

So that is what i'll say to the community. If we want something balanced it's not crying on the forums to be done, provide actual balanced evidence.

Show us it doing this when their debuff screen is covered with snares, poisons, dots, burning/bleeds and then breaking people out of stuns. Show me this and i'll back it with a new thread linking then all stating "ZOS REWORK THIS."

Literally every clip shown so far is casting a single ability and crying it's broken.

*And yes i'm saying DK's because we're the "DOT CLASS"

There isn't more to show because you don't get random Cyrodiil encounters on PTS. We can compare it to other sets and using Purge on Live, which is what we do. And Curse Eater comes out so far ahead it's not even funny.

Galarthor wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

With all the threads curse eater is OP. I wanted one to say it will be great set for healers in pvp and pve. So if changes must be made please consider application that this set has on healers.

Are you a Zergling by any chance?

Apparently someone here doesn't know it's weaker in bigger groups #FacePalm

ToRelax wrote: »

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

As it stands if you're applying one or 2 negative effects and crying it's removing those negative effects you're either not reading it AT ALL or you're wilfully trying to get something nerfed.

Well, yes... we are willfully trying to get something nerfed.

So that is what i'll say to the community. If we want something balanced it's not crying on the forums to be done, provide actual balanced evidence.

Show us it doing this when their debuff screen is covered with snares, poisons, dots, burning/bleeds and then breaking people out of stuns. Show me this and i'll back it with a new thread linking then all stating "ZOS REWORK THIS."

Literally every clip shown so far is casting a single ability and crying it's broken.

*And yes i'm saying DK's because we're the "DOT CLASS"

There isn't more to show because you don't get random Cyrodiil encounters on PTS. We can compare it to other sets and using Purge on Live, which is what we do. And Curse Eater comes out so far ahead it's not even funny.

So it's apparent that none of you have thought "hmmmm..... a stam Dk throwing down caltrops and dotting up a player wearing it might ACTUALLY be a better test than spamming a single stun" lol.

How many times in cyro is the only debuff on your bar a stun? You have ground based dots that reapply every second with snares (ritual, caltrops, eruption etc), you have bleeds, you have poisons, burning, defiles and other dots.

Showing a single cast negative effect being removed means literally zero, and if that is your Cyro tactic then you're either a potato or a zerger. Show us something REAL. not single stuns and OMG LUL IT'S BROKE THEM FREE MEGA LUL BROKEN