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Hardly anyone on after Racial Passives Patchnote release

  • Intextio
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    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.
  • Akrasjel
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    The end is nigh
    [PC][EU][Daggerfall Covenant]
    Akrasjel Lanate - Imperial Nightblade | 50 | CP900+
    Born: 2E 551

    Member of: | Traders of the Covenant | Hammerfell Trading | Imperial Trading Company |
    Houses: Strident Springs Demesne,


  • LightMaster7
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.
  • Intextio
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?
  • LightMaster7
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?
  • Intextio
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.
    Edited by Intextio on January 17, 2019 9:50PM
  • LightMaster7
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.
  • Lab3360
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    susmitds wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    If the game's population is truly declining, if you are of the opinion that not changing the balance to please the existing customer base will save the population, you are delusional. Statistics has shown over and over again that stagnancy in a state of affairs is worse than a temporary regression and anarchy.

    I didnt feel the game was stagnant. Im an existing customer. And I also have 2 accounts. Paid accounts at that.

    I have several builds obviously. They are all affected. And if temporary regression the answer for stagnency, then the game has bigger problems which need addressing.



    Edited by Lab3360 on January 17, 2019 9:54PM
  • Tannus15
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    Steam numbers indicate you're wrong.
  • DKMaestro
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    I went to several capitol zones this evening. There was hardly anyone on.

    I see discouragement making its way.
    My guild members will also be playing less.

    Is anyone else feeling discouraged?

    LOL. The overreaction is real here folks. I am sure even more people will be playing, and who cares for these MINOR adjustments. Yes they are MINOR.
    Gear, skills and playstyle dictates if you do well or not, not freaking racial passives.

    And please stop with the self loathing - it fools no one.
    Old man playing. Have a life, a job and only one character, which is grumpy (all the time)
  • Dojohoda
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    I haven't been on yet, but that has nothing to do with the announcement.

    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
    Might be joking in comments.
    -->(((Cyrodiil)))<--
  • Intextio
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.
    Edited by Intextio on January 17, 2019 9:55PM
  • LightMaster7
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
  • Lab3360
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    Another problem with this game which needs to be addressed. Im quite shocked over this ridiculous Global Nerf.

    The game is soo dps catering its sickning!
    Its like Healers and Tanks are 2nd class.
  • LightMaster7
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    DKMaestro wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    I went to several capitol zones this evening. There was hardly anyone on.

    I see discouragement making its way.
    My guild members will also be playing less.

    Is anyone else feeling discouraged?

    LOL. The overreaction is real here folks. I am sure even more people will be playing, and who cares for these MINOR adjustments. Yes they are MINOR.
    Gear, skills and playstyle dictates if you do well or not, not freaking racial passives.

    And please stop with the self loathing - it fools no one.

    Maybe thise might be "minor" adjustments to pre 160 or maybe even pre 300 cp characters but trust me these are HUGE adjustments to character who are at end game.
  • Arrodisia
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    Actually, he's somewhat right, but this has been going on for some time. multiple threads were raised over the last few weeks. Even though ZOS has increased their efforts to repopulate, the game has been on a decline. There are way less people online in the guilds. A lot less people are in PvP in total. not just in one campaign. way less lfg's going on as well.

    The player base isn't blind, and It will become even more obvious in the near future if these changes are pushed through in this manner.

    It's not so much the changes themselves but ZOS's greed behind the changes and passing the burden of their balancing mistakes onto the players.

    The player base isn't stupid either. You can read through the forum reactions about the attempts at repopulation without fixing the performance which is huge in the forums, and they're throwing free rewards in player's faces, (most of which are trash costing them nothing to give since they already existed) to try to get them just to log on.(examples calendar rewards, crates before that, twitch rewards,.....) The fan base reacted to many but not all changes negatively. This one is just over the top greedy and unjustified. The players have a right to speak their mind here. Please don't knock them or attack them for doing so.

    Do I believe it is that dire yet. NO. I do believe ZOS is heading in the wrong direction, but they could still fix it with more love and less greed.
    Edited by Arrodisia on January 17, 2019 10:08PM
  • Tannus15
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    DKMaestro wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    I went to several capitol zones this evening. There was hardly anyone on.

    I see discouragement making its way.
    My guild members will also be playing less.

    Is anyone else feeling discouraged?

    LOL. The overreaction is real here folks. I am sure even more people will be playing, and who cares for these MINOR adjustments. Yes they are MINOR.
    Gear, skills and playstyle dictates if you do well or not, not freaking racial passives.

    And please stop with the self loathing - it fools no one.

    Maybe thise might be "minor" adjustments to pre 160 or maybe even pre 300 cp characters but trust me these are HUGE adjustments to character who are at end game.

    No end game player worth their salt is going to be freaking out until they get on PTS and see what the changes mean in real numbers. Then 99% of them will just race change to the appropriate race for their class & build.

    My mag sorc will probably go Breton. *shrug*
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    we all ragequit.

    or had to get some sleep.
  • LightMaster7
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    Tannus15 wrote: »
    DKMaestro wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    I went to several capitol zones this evening. There was hardly anyone on.

    I see discouragement making its way.
    My guild members will also be playing less.

    Is anyone else feeling discouraged?

    LOL. The overreaction is real here folks. I am sure even more people will be playing, and who cares for these MINOR adjustments. Yes they are MINOR.
    Gear, skills and playstyle dictates if you do well or not, not freaking racial passives.

    And please stop with the self loathing - it fools no one.

    Maybe thise might be "minor" adjustments to pre 160 or maybe even pre 300 cp characters but trust me these are HUGE adjustments to character who are at end game.

    No end game player worth their salt is going to be freaking out until they get on PTS and see what the changes mean in real numbers. Then 99% of them will just race change to the appropriate race for their class & build.

    My mag sorc will probably go Breton. *shrug*

    LOL yeah maybe your a little kid who doesn't go to school or playing hookie or even slacking off in college but some of us have real lives that work and take care of families who play this game.

    For us investing time can be a challenge and to force these people of the segment to redo their characters is a travesty to the whole genre of mmorpgs. I've played quite a few and I have to tell ya this is one of the most screwed up changes I've ever heard of, or OH I REMEMBER, I think they tried this on Lineage 2 at the END OF THEIR GAME CYCLE...so is ESO at the end of their game cycle to do something this drastic then hmm?

    People like you are toxic to the playerbase or maybe to your own lives since you would have to reinvest that time to reroll, redo and in some cases re-level your character to where used to be BEFORE a nerf.

    And the "wait and see" approach. LOL and you call yourself an end player that's been in this game awhile? Almost everytihng that makes it to the PTS goes live man. Never seen a case where something didnt in this game.
  • Lab3360
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    Actually, he's somewhat right, but this has been going on for some time. multiple threads were raised over the last few weeks. Even though ZOS has increased their efforts to repopulate, the game has been on a decline. There are way less people online in the guilds. A lot less people are in PvP in total. not just in one campaign. way less lfg's going on as well.

    The player base isn't blind. It will become more obvious in the near future if these changes are pushed through in this manner.

    It's not so much the changes themselves but ZOS's greed behind the changes and passing the burden of their balancing mistakes onto the players.

    The player base isn't stupid. You can read through the forum reactions to the attempts at repopulation without fixing the performance and throwing free rewards in player's faces, (most of which are trash costing them nothing to give since they already existed) to try to get them just to log on.(examples calendar rewards, crates before that, twitch rewards,.....) The fan base reacted to many but not all changes negatively. This one is just over the top greedy and unjustified. The players have a right to speak their mind here. Please don't knock them or attack them for doing so.

    Ikr. Its like if someone has a different opinion, these guys want to call people all kinds of names and the like. But what is telling is they cant even intelligently express or articulate there thoughts.
    Thus, reverting to name calling out of frustration from failure to express the thought.

    This is the same things babies do because its all they have to communicate, but adds to further frustration because they cannot effectively communicate.
    Edited by Lab3360 on January 17, 2019 10:13PM
  • Intextio
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    Edit: nvm made a mistake
    Edited by Intextio on January 17, 2019 10:18PM
  • LightMaster7
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Actually, he's somewhat right, but this has been going on for some time. multiple threads were raised over the last few weeks. Even though ZOS has increased their efforts to repopulate, the game has been on a decline. There are way less people online in the guilds. A lot less people are in PvP in total. not just in one campaign. way less lfg's going on as well.

    The player base isn't blind. It will become more obvious in the near future if these changes are pushed through in this manner.

    It's not so much the changes themselves but ZOS's greed behind the changes and passing the burden of their balancing mistakes onto the players.

    The player base isn't stupid. You can read through the forum reactions to the attempts at repopulation without fixing the performance and throwing free rewards in player's faces, (most of which are trash costing them nothing to give since they already existed) to try to get them just to log on.(examples calendar rewards, crates before that, twitch rewards,.....) The fan base reacted to many but not all changes negatively. This one is just over the top greedy and unjustified. The players have a right to speak their mind here. Please don't knock them or attack them for doing so.

    Ikr. Its like if someone has a different opinion, these guys want to call people all kinds of names and the like. But what is telling is they cant even intelligently express or articulate there thoughts.
    Thus, reverting to name calling out of frustration from failure to express the thought.

    This is the same things babies do because its all they have to communicate, but adds to further frustration because they cannot effectively communicate.

    ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!!? You constantly misuse words you don't understand and talk down to people. You of all people have no right to claim the high ground.

    Wow lol I guess you have nothing more to say huh? I guess your more pathetic than serious at this point.
  • Intextio
    Intextio
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Actually, he's somewhat right, but this has been going on for some time. multiple threads were raised over the last few weeks. Even though ZOS has increased their efforts to repopulate, the game has been on a decline. There are way less people online in the guilds. A lot less people are in PvP in total. not just in one campaign. way less lfg's going on as well.

    The player base isn't blind. It will become more obvious in the near future if these changes are pushed through in this manner.

    It's not so much the changes themselves but ZOS's greed behind the changes and passing the burden of their balancing mistakes onto the players.

    The player base isn't stupid. You can read through the forum reactions to the attempts at repopulation without fixing the performance and throwing free rewards in player's faces, (most of which are trash costing them nothing to give since they already existed) to try to get them just to log on.(examples calendar rewards, crates before that, twitch rewards,.....) The fan base reacted to many but not all changes negatively. This one is just over the top greedy and unjustified. The players have a right to speak their mind here. Please don't knock them or attack them for doing so.

    Ikr. Its like if someone has a different opinion, these guys want to call people all kinds of names and the like. But what is telling is they cant even intelligently express or articulate there thoughts.
    Thus, reverting to name calling out of frustration from failure to express the thought.

    This is the same things babies do because its all they have to communicate, but adds to further frustration because they cannot effectively communicate.

    ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!!? You constantly misuse words you don't understand and talk down to people. You of all people have no right to claim the high ground.

    Wow lol I guess you have nothing more to say huh? I guess your more pathetic than serious at this point.

    you're*

    The only one here that is pathetic is you since you are more concerned about throwing a ***-fit in the comments then actually discussing anything.

    Stop crying! It is so unbecoming, especially since this is all subject to change.
    Edited by Intextio on January 17, 2019 10:20PM
  • LightMaster7
    LightMaster7
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Actually, he's somewhat right, but this has been going on for some time. multiple threads were raised over the last few weeks. Even though ZOS has increased their efforts to repopulate, the game has been on a decline. There are way less people online in the guilds. A lot less people are in PvP in total. not just in one campaign. way less lfg's going on as well.

    The player base isn't blind. It will become more obvious in the near future if these changes are pushed through in this manner.

    It's not so much the changes themselves but ZOS's greed behind the changes and passing the burden of their balancing mistakes onto the players.

    The player base isn't stupid. You can read through the forum reactions to the attempts at repopulation without fixing the performance and throwing free rewards in player's faces, (most of which are trash costing them nothing to give since they already existed) to try to get them just to log on.(examples calendar rewards, crates before that, twitch rewards,.....) The fan base reacted to many but not all changes negatively. This one is just over the top greedy and unjustified. The players have a right to speak their mind here. Please don't knock them or attack them for doing so.

    Ikr. Its like if someone has a different opinion, these guys want to call people all kinds of names and the like. But what is telling is they cant even intelligently express or articulate there thoughts.
    Thus, reverting to name calling out of frustration from failure to express the thought.

    This is the same things babies do because its all they have to communicate, but adds to further frustration because they cannot effectively communicate.

    ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!!? You constantly misuse words you don't understand and talk down to people. You of all people have no right to claim the high ground.

    Wow lol I guess you have nothing more to say huh? I guess your more pathetic than serious at this point.

    you're*

    The only one here that is pathetic is you since you are more concerned about throwing a ***-fit in the comments then actually discussing anything.

    Stop crying! It is so unbecoming, especially since this is all subject to change.

    Don't you automatically know than when someone starts turning into a spell ***, it means they've all but given up on their point of view and become degenerate. Your wasting my time bud.
  • Intextio
    Intextio
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    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    Intextio wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    Slow decline my ass. You are just making *** up and trying to stir up trouble. Knock it off.

    I've been playing awhile...trust me this game took a huge hit after the sorcerer nerfs. It hasn't really recovered after that.

    Really? Numbers disagree with you since on the stream two days ago ESO added more players last year then when the game launched for consoles.

    Oh really did they release any of their official numbers?

    Its funny how western company hardly ever do this but the often criticized Asian MMO companies are waaay more transparent.

    Even WoW doesn't release that information.

    And yet you are spouting *** without any numbers. See the problem?

    Wait I'm the one that is giving personal testimony of what I've seen in the game as a long time player before and after the Sorcerer nerfs and the slow decline in population. Hell just queuing for dungeons should give you a fair idea how much population loss this game has incurred as it used to be almost instant or definitely within 5 mins for even DPS classes to get a group. Now it averaged to almost 30 mins or more.

    Keep living in your dream world man. The blind never see the truth that's right in front of them, because they choose to live the lie and be in darkness.

    I've given my testimony of what I've actually seen in game. Now since your "spouting off" about numbers increasing lets see those official numbers eh? Maybe a press release or some kind of official document showing actual concorrent player numbers count?

    I've been here since 2014. Every year the population has increased. You are just posting nonsense.

    LOL now your going by heresay and trying to use my own logic? That means you have absolutely no argument but only heresay.

    I've given you a metric, the group finder. Now tell me yours? How do you prove that the population hasn't suffered? The group finder tells me a whole different story.

    The group finder has to do with an oversaturation of DPS you dunce. There are too many DPS and not enough tank/healers.

    As for population, if you've been around since the beginning you would know the population has grown considerably and is continuing to grow.

    Lastly, you don't know what hearsay is. Hearsay is when you hear something from another, not what you yourself have observed. Stop using words you don't understand.

    LOL wow are you unbelieveably ignorant. So your saying there were more people in the past making tanks and healers then now who are almost all dps? Yes? Do you really believe that *** your mouthing off?

    Wow end of discussion. You just proved yourself a "dunce".
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Actually, he's somewhat right, but this has been going on for some time. multiple threads were raised over the last few weeks. Even though ZOS has increased their efforts to repopulate, the game has been on a decline. There are way less people online in the guilds. A lot less people are in PvP in total. not just in one campaign. way less lfg's going on as well.

    The player base isn't blind. It will become more obvious in the near future if these changes are pushed through in this manner.

    It's not so much the changes themselves but ZOS's greed behind the changes and passing the burden of their balancing mistakes onto the players.

    The player base isn't stupid. You can read through the forum reactions to the attempts at repopulation without fixing the performance and throwing free rewards in player's faces, (most of which are trash costing them nothing to give since they already existed) to try to get them just to log on.(examples calendar rewards, crates before that, twitch rewards,.....) The fan base reacted to many but not all changes negatively. This one is just over the top greedy and unjustified. The players have a right to speak their mind here. Please don't knock them or attack them for doing so.

    Ikr. Its like if someone has a different opinion, these guys want to call people all kinds of names and the like. But what is telling is they cant even intelligently express or articulate there thoughts.
    Thus, reverting to name calling out of frustration from failure to express the thought.

    This is the same things babies do because its all they have to communicate, but adds to further frustration because they cannot effectively communicate.

    ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!!? You constantly misuse words you don't understand and talk down to people. You of all people have no right to claim the high ground.

    Wow lol I guess you have nothing more to say huh? I guess your more pathetic than serious at this point.

    you're*

    The only one here that is pathetic is you since you are more concerned about throwing a ***-fit in the comments then actually discussing anything.

    Stop crying! It is so unbecoming, especially since this is all subject to change.

    Don't you automatically know than when someone starts turning into a spell ***, it means they've all but given up on their point of view and become degenerate. Your wasting my time bud.

    LMAO you really need to see a councilor or something. it is not normal for someone to be so angry all the time. Get some help please.
    Edited by Intextio on January 17, 2019 10:23PM
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    I actually heard this on Rush Limbaugh today, it's old news now.
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    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    I started playing May 2017 and if anything I find the game more populated then when I started.

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    Juju_beans wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    I started playing May 2017 and if anything I find the game more populated then when I started.

    Like I said, the metric I use, the groupfinder tells me a completely different story.
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    Tannus15 wrote: »
    DKMaestro wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    I went to several capitol zones this evening. There was hardly anyone on.

    I see discouragement making its way.
    My guild members will also be playing less.

    Is anyone else feeling discouraged?

    LOL. The overreaction is real here folks. I am sure even more people will be playing, and who cares for these MINOR adjustments. Yes they are MINOR.
    Gear, skills and playstyle dictates if you do well or not, not freaking racial passives.

    And please stop with the self loathing - it fools no one.

    Maybe thise might be "minor" adjustments to pre 160 or maybe even pre 300 cp characters but trust me these are HUGE adjustments to character who are at end game.

    No end game player worth their salt is going to be freaking out until they get on PTS and see what the changes mean in real numbers. Then 99% of them will just race change to the appropriate race for their class & build.

    My mag sorc will probably go Breton. *shrug*

    LOL yeah maybe your a little kid who doesn't go to school or playing hookie or even slacking off in college but some of us have real lives that work and take care of families who play this game.

    For us investing time can be a challenge and to force these people of the segment to redo their characters is a travesty to the whole genre of mmorpgs. I've played quite a few and I have to tell ya this is one of the most screwed up changes I've ever heard of, or OH I REMEMBER, I think they tried this on Lineage 2 at the END OF THEIR GAME CYCLE...so is ESO at the end of their game cycle to do something this drastic then hmm?

    People like you are toxic to the playerbase or maybe to your own lives since you would have to reinvest that time to reroll, redo and in some cases re-level your character to where used to be BEFORE a nerf.

    And the "wait and see" approach. LOL and you call yourself an end player that's been in this game awhile? Almost everytihng that makes it to the PTS goes live man. Never seen a case where something didnt in this game.

    I race changed my mag sorc FROM breton to altmer, because end game. I'll use the free race change token to change him back most likely.

    Remember shields having a 1 second cast time? It didn't go live. Plenty of things change or are adjusted in PTS.

    These are not drastic changes. 99% of the end game community are not freaking out, they are crunching the numbers and looking at the options and waiting for the PTS so they can get some real data.

    I find it ironic that you're calling ME toxic when you're the one panicking on the forums and claiming the game is dead because you logged in and thought there seemed to be less people around than you expected even though it was off peak time, the middle of the week and an event had just ended.
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    Juju_beans wrote: »
    LOL don't buy the bull some of these guys are saying where "cities are packed", etc...

    They like to live in their own little world and seeing one other person in their vicinity is like a whole "city" to them. Idiots.

    The fact of the matter is, the game's population has been on a slow decline.

    Its even MORE emphasized with this news with their game lead leaving or however he exited.

    They know their numbers and they better do something soon to restore it to what it was because if any part of those so called racial passive changes makes it live, its the end game for this game.

    I started playing May 2017 and if anything I find the game more populated then when I started.

    This guy is saying he uses the group finder to determine whether or not the game is dead. That right there means you should ignore him.
    Edited by Intextio on January 17, 2019 10:31PM
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