make CP character bound

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  • Odovacar
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    I actually enjoy leveling my new characters. I have my favorite spots in Tamriel to grind and usually can casually (3-4 hrs. a night) have a new character to 50 in 5 days. This of course is with a few 150xp pops B).
    Edited by Odovacar on December 7, 2018 3:25PM
  • Jimmy
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    No thank you. I'd probably quit if this happened.
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  • Luigi_Vampa
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    Wouldn't bother me as I only really play one character anymore. This is a terrible idea however.
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  • Salvas_Aren
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    Abigail wrote: »
    I can conceive a worse idea -- perma death, but I concede it's a close call.

    Is this an idea if it was a feature in Diablo 2? B)
  • Aisle9
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    Edziu wrote: »

    I think this 1st option ;p
    if you could look at page 2 :P

    and still cant belive how people are get trolled by this and thanks this thread I see how many people are here on forum who even dont try to look at thread in overall how it went but instead they only look at just 1st post and barely aven full 1st page adn then they posting many nonsense to this thread because of skipped "content" inside of this

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  • jainiadral
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    Edziu wrote: »

    I think this 1st option ;p
    if you could look at page 2 :P

    and still cant belive how people are get trolled by this and thanks this thread I see how many people are here on forum who even dont try to look at thread in overall how it went but instead they only look at just 1st post and barely aven full 1st page adn then they posting many nonsense to this thread because of skipped "content" inside of this

    Why even waste your time doing this? And ours too? Just say what you want to say and be done with it. *headdesk* And, FWIW, I did read page 2 before I posted-- but I find your posts to be unclear and difficult to read.
  • Asardes
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    Delete them altogether and balance PvE content around level 50 typical stats when it comes to incoming and outgoing damage. No more power creep, no more over-performing builds or sets.
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  • mairwen85
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    Pfff... 🙄
    Edited by mairwen85 on December 7, 2018 3:42PM
  • Edziu
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    jainiadral wrote: »

    Why even waste your time doing this? And ours too? Just say what you want to say and be done with it. *headdesk* And, FWIW, I did read page 2 before I posted-- but I find your posts to be unclear and difficult to read.

    waste or not...well just in game when I wanted..or was forced to grind something again and Im getting bored and then comming to forums to look at isntead of playing something on endgame

    and well I was saying even with good arguments what could work for everyone in different threads and I was not only one who like it...but oh well...hardcore easy pve content grinders are more louder and we cant speak to reason them

    and sorry for unclear posts from my side..thats just problem as Im not the best in english but trying as I can instead of only reading many nonsenses and not replying and leaving it as it is without any arguments as someone is totally wrong
  • jainiadral
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    Edziu wrote: »

    waste or not...well just in game when I wanted..or was forced to grind something again and Im getting bored and then comming to forums to look at isntead of playing something on endgame

    and well I was saying even with good arguments what could work for everyone in different threads and I was not only one who like it...but oh well...hardcore easy pve content grinders are more louder and we cant speak to reason them

    and sorry for unclear posts from my side..thats just problem as Im not the best in english but trying as I can instead of only reading many nonsenses and not replying and leaving it as it is without any arguments as someone is totally wrong

    So, if I'm getting you right-- you're a PvP player who is sick of all the skill grind (skyshards, lorebooks, Fighter's Guild, horse training, etc). Can't say I blame you. I'm a casual PvE player, and the thought of touching Undaunted again is just... ugh. I actually like account-wide unlocks, so if I'm getting you right, we totally agree.

    Gotcha.

    Still, this thread was really irritating to read :D I'm glad you weren't being serious. Thank the infinite number of deities and non-deities for that! The sad thing is, I bet there's a contingent out there that would agree with your troll. Yuck.
    Edited by jainiadral on December 7, 2018 4:17PM
  • AlboMalefica
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    No thank you
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Edziu wrote: »

    I think this 1st option ;p
    if you could look at page 2 :P

    and still cant belive how people are get trolled by this and thanks this thread I see how many people are here on forum who even dont try to look at thread in overall how it went but instead they only look at just 1st post and barely aven full 1st page adn then they posting many nonsense to this thread because of skipped "content" inside of this

    Ain't nobody got time to read those comments
  • ookami007
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    Nope. No. Negative. DO NOT. BAD.
  • Edziu
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    Ain't nobody got time to read those comments

    so atlest look at lastest, for every amount of posts its posting again here about this what happened inside, nothing hurt yo look atlest for last comments which are much shorter :)

    @jainiadral
    and thats very nice to see someone's still have their own mind and understood to some things or atleast to have look at this a bit of tolerance if are not sure fully about this what is happening around :)
  • Leocaran
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    So they are making the "opposite" argument in such an absurd way as to try and show that the other side is wrong/masochistic/etc...
    And what do you think? It worked flawlessly! The other side is clearly "wrong/masochistic/etc..." B) And people see it now.
    This topic is awesome. :D
    Edited by Leocaran on December 7, 2018 4:55PM
  • West1389
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    Edziu wrote: »
    well you see good
    after I have seen many different posts and thereads I coudl find with it people who will be fine to have also CP as singel character progression
    after I thought some I think they are right at all

    lets look from 1 side...this is real grind to get cap cp from 0 but wait, at all every new character which we create is grind with everyting from nothing like skillpoints, skilline xp etc :) even acheivement which we can say many we could be able to done only if we have over 300cp and with it we need to have great team to be able do them :)

    there was many threads to make some grinds account share like just skyshards for skillpoints, or guild leveled to max and in every ask to have something account share we was overposted we cant, this is bad for everyone
    so here I got that feel finally as they are righ, every character we create is supposed by ZOS to have his own progression, quest, exploration, learning recipes, motifs etc

    and here Im asking...why we dont have character bound cp? we all can say it CP have really huuuuge impact for our new character if we have got 500+ cp on our main

    and dont say I can play without redistributing cp on my new character because I will not feel goo with it as someone next to me even on tutorial quest can have just redistributed his cap cp on this freshly created character which would be not fair as why I should handicap myself with it when I just have avaible access to this like everyone else?

    tbh its not that hard these days to grind cp for every our character, we have many xp bosters, lower cp lvls need realy low amount of cp so its really easy to get this minimum 300 at start and daily bonus xp for random dung also is per character even when it is maxed and just gaining CP



    So after reading about 4 pages in I had to say something. I'm now convinced these are all NPCs. Why cause they cant read, and as soon as I read this knew it was a joke. This makes perfect sense why you get attacked its group think.

    You can put in title I love cp while in the post explain how you hate it and only get relies on why you love it. People cant read more than a title. This is why everything is going downhill.

    Good job I'm with you on how messed up the system is. This is why I dont play, but check the forums hoping for good news.

    Also you cant change a NPC they are programmed this way lol.
  • Acharnor
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    NO! This game has become a massive grind already. Still ticked about JC. I would never make another character if this ever was a thing. LOL!
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  • Defilted
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    No Thank you.
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  • Abigail
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    West1389 wrote: »



    So after reading about 4 pages in I had to say something. I'm now convinced these are all NPCs. Why cause they cant read, and as soon as I read this knew it was a joke. This makes perfect sense why you get attacked its group think.

    You can put in title I love cp while in the post explain how you hate it and only get relies on why you love it. People cant read more than a title. This is why everything is going downhill.

    Good job I'm with you on how messed up the system is. This is why I dont play, but check the forums hoping for good news.

    Also you cant change a NPC they are programmed this way lol.

    Really. I read it, despite its lack of punctuation, no capitalization, and the fact it's nearly unintelligible. No where is there a hint of humor or irony. Also, if your response wasn't equally poorly written I'd think you were a troll bot.

    Edited by Abigail on December 7, 2018 6:09PM
  • Nord_Raseri
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    *** no
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  • Edziu
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    Abigail wrote: »

    Really. I read it, despite its lack of punctuation, no capitalization, and the fact it's nearly unintelligible. No where is there a hint of humor or irony. Also, if your response wasn't equally poorly written I'd think you were a troll bot.

    lack of punctuation etc I know, I was writing I know it and Im sorry for it as Im not the best in english so this wont be better :/ but I write how I can instead of just neutrally sitting and reading forum while I see many threads where is needed investigation
  • Donny_Vito
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    The only reason I don't mind making new characters and leveling them up is because I know they'll have max CP at level 1 and it will make that level-grinding so much easier.
  • West1389
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    Abigail wrote: »

    Really. I read it, despite its lack of punctuation, no capitalization, and the fact it's nearly unintelligible. No where is there a hint of humor or irony. Also, if your response wasn't equally poorly written I'd think you were a troll bot.



    that is because NPC cant see humor. He even said in the want to say top lines he changed his mind. Which means he was for things being shared. NO ONE being for that will ever want CP for each toon.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    This would be brutal for the new players who would have to complete with people who have their CP in the thousands across a full menagerie of characters. I suspect they will never take this suggestion to heart as it would scare off potential subscribers for the future.
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  • West1389
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    @Edziu you dont need to keep telling them that English is not your 1st language. They cant read any other post im sure they never read that.

    To them only people that speak perfect English play this game. Again you cant reason with NPC.
  • Edziu
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    @West1389 ah you are right, thank you :)
    I always wanted to fix my sentences when someone was disagreeing with me..I wanted to fix my sentences to show I have not bad intentions to them while I wanted some things to updade for better QoL but that was nonstop like throwing peas on the wall not matter how many different arguments I had against their same not changed single argument

    but at allI never looked at this from this side like you..as they are jsut like npc - they are programmed for single thing and thats all, if they dont have programmed option with different choices like we have in quest for different ending they will never change themselves at all while still impede playing for normal living players who need improvements to keep them happy as for this are games yes?
    Edited by Edziu on December 7, 2018 7:01PM
  • West1389
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    Edziu wrote: »
    @West1389 ah you are right, thank you :)
    I always wanted to fix my sentences when someone was disagreeing with me..I wanted to fix my sentences to show I have not bad intentions to them while I wanted some things to updade for better QoL but that was nonstop like throwing peas on the wall not matter how many different arguments I had against their same not changed single argument

    but at allI never looked at this from this side like you..as they are jsut like npc - they are programmed for single thing and thats all, if they dont have programmed option with different choices like we have in quest for different ending they will never change themselves at all while still impede playing for normal living players who need improvements to keep them happy as for this are games yes?



    perfectly said.
  • Fleshreaper
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    oooh boy! more logical fallacies and incoherent statements!

    For those who don't understand, this is a troll thread, because their ideas in several other threads were roundly dismissed and disproved by literally hundreds of different people. So they are making the "opposite" argument in such an absurd way as to try and show that the other side is wrong/masochistic/etc...

    Well, HAHAHAHA. "Roundly dismissed and disproved" That's a joke, right? Oh, you're serious? Well, hate to tell you, your opinion is not fact, it is just that, YOUR opinion. You say things should be based solely on character completion and then you turn right around and say, no, to character bound CP because it's too hard. So, in fact you think if something is okay for you to grind then everyone else should be okay with it. So, who is really the hypocrite?
  • Fleshreaper
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    Skins are account-wide more because it's a vanity thing, most skins, personalities, costumes are are account-wide and I can see a reason for that too. There's a subtle difference here - people can run vAS to make their other (or all) characters pretty-looking in it, so wearing skin isn't much of a proof of achievement as title is. Skin is there to look good. Title is there to say 'I did this' - it's why I feel that vanity things like skins are all right being account wide, but title is another beast, it says that you're good at being this class/spec enough to finish that content. If you've switched from sDK to magblade to get a clear - means you have nothing to brag with on your sDK, even if it's because raid leader told you to go magicka. As a player, I may be capable of getting stormproof on a petsorc, but it'll be much more difficult on stamDK, it defines the amount of skill I have to have to earn it.

    So, shouldn't you apply that same logic to CP? Your new character did not EARN those CPs, so why should they get credit for them?
  • kts
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    If anything, go the opposite direction and make it optional to do the 1 - 50 grind when you make a new charcter
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