make CP character bound
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Aisle9✭✭✭✭✭
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why do you think that?
for many dead of this game was when jsut CP was released, for many others game died when CP cap was not stopped around 500-600 and went higher and still is going higher, for others dead to this game was with 1 tamriel or with tamriel unlimited
here we can say this game will not die by this but will get just another stage of playing
It's different.
When Vet Ranks were removed in favor of just CP, nothing was taken away. You had the same potential for dps/tankiness/hps, it was just a different system, to which people had to adapt to.
When the game's performances went to the crapper, your toon had still the same potential, just had to wait out the storm.
There's a large chunk of the population that derives pleasure from making alts, but since they already reached endgame, they want to take them into said endgame with their guild/friends (see my previous post for clarification on the matter). You're proposing to take away their potential effectiveness and gate it behind a different grind.
Those people would then be funneled into grinding zombies in grotesque merry-go-rounds until they go insane or get carpal tunnel.
Again, I understand your point, I just don't agree with it.
Different gameplay is all.
*edit*
Again, if it's code for "They are keeping my dog hostage, send help please", just make a double post denying it.
Edited by Aisle9 on December 6, 2018 10:40PMArtemis Absinthe - DC magicka nightblade (PC - EU)
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So, you have one thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448501/account-wide-achievements
asking for account wide achievements, while you have another thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448509/make-cp-character-bound
asking for CP to be character bound.
You need to make up your mind.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭So people didn't agree with you about making achievements accountwide so you make such a dumb thread without understanding the difference between the two? CP actually affects gameplay, achievements not at all. Achievements are purely RP to me and I quite enjoy having certain achievements on certain characters. There is not a single achievement required for me to do certain things in this game though whereas CP directly affects this.
This thread is a pathetic attempt at making a point which it really doesn't. People don't have to agree with you, grow up.Edited by NupidStoob on December 6, 2018 10:38PM6 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »So, you have one thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448501/account-wide-achievements
asking for account wide achievements, while you have another thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448509/make-cp-character-bound
asking for CP to be character bound.
You need to make up your mind.
no, I m done it as I just gave up after this my post before and after get this Im on loser side of community if asking for QoL, now Im against everything accounshared
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Hoolielulu✭✭✭✭✭
no, I m done it as I just gave up after this my post before and after get this Im on loser side of community if asking for QoL, now Im against everything accounshared
even thinking about character bound dropped sets
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭NupidStoob wrote: »So people didn't agree with you about making achievements accountwide so you make such a dumb thread without understanding the difference between the two? CP actually affects gameplay, achievements not at all. Achievements are purely RP to me and I quite enjoy having certain achievements on certain characters. There is not a single achievement required for me to do certain things in this game though whereas CP directly affects this.
This thread is a pathetic attempt at making a point which it really doesn't. People don't have to agree with you, grow up.
and? I very good understand difference but well..I get more info about everything with some more threads than these 2 and this is just result what I understand from this community
thread maybe pathetic, maybe your post pathetic?
I have not created this thread to everyone agree with me, I just prosed here an different change opposite about this wor what I was saying and explaing and I have failed with it so I gave up and here we are
and Im reallu sure asI have seen some posts of people would like this idea with CP character bound like many other things
you dont need to agree with this same like most people shouting how they dont agree for different things to be account bound while few of them with atleast a chunk of them coudl be really QoL improvement for many0 -
Pink_Violinz✭✭✭✭✭Might as well go back to veteran levels then. Because who doesn't love being pigeon holed into only leveling a few characters, since leveling others would take an incredible amount of time and grinding.
Yeah, I'll pass. There's absolutely no reason for this.1 -
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✭Hoolielulu wrote: »
Hey, there is no loser side of the community. People will always disagree on stuff.
yes but about this stuff for which I was imo is on loser side as unfortunately opinion of RP's or pve tryhards f nonvet content called mainly just causals is bigger with it and more audible than other player who just dont care for their own immersion as long QoL is great and this side is just this loser as I have seen in to manyyy different threads 1 -
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✭✭no, I m done it as I just gave up after this my post before and after get this Im on loser side of community if asking for QoL, now Im against everything accounshared
even thinking about character bound dropped sets
Ah, so spite post after all. Explains. ^^ Should've started with that.
Really, I think you should see difference between achievements and CPs. CPs are unnamed, generic experience, not attached to anything particular you do - you're just playing game to get that experience. On another hand, many achievements wouldn't make sense if they were account bound. You got that Stormproof on your magsorc, but how does it apply to your skill of handling your stamplar in vMA? There's logic to have one things account-wide and others character-wide.
Granted, I could do with less grind for Mages Guild or FG (or, goodness, Psijic), but it's how it is.2 -
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✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Might as well go back to veteran levels then. Because who doesn't love being pigeon holed into only leveling a few characters, since leveling others would take an incredible amount of time and grinding.
Yeah, I'll pass. There's absolutely no reason for this.
well if CP will not pass to be characte bound then bringing back vet ranks will be great solution for this
no longer I would have problem with enough skillpoints when I reach 50lvl on my char
with vet ranks I will have even to many skillpoints before I will get maxed vet rank xD
and leveling charact wont be that fast for many endgame players and they will less cry for not enough skillpoints for just leveling, not high enough mages/fighers guild lvl etc
everything will be lvled to max along with max vet rank and these player will stop crying about making account share guild lvls etc 0 -
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✭John_Falstaff wrote: »
Ah, so spite post after all. Explains. ^^ Should've started with that.
Really, I think you should see difference between achievements and CPs. CPs are unnamed, generic experience, not attached to anything particular you do - you're just playing game to get that experience. On another hand, many achievements wouldn't make sense if they were account bound. You got that Stormproof on your magsorc, but how does it apply to your skill of handling your stamplar in vMA? There's logic to have one things account-wide and others character-wide.
Granted, I could do with less grind for Mages Guild or FG (or, goodness, Psijic), but it's how it is.
well, I had no problem in other games where you was able to do hard content easy for specific class and then use title from this on you low lvl character nopt lvled yet for any content and if it is in game and game is alive so playerbase aloso dont have problem with it as what I have seen on forums
only eso community I see have that big problem about that simple things unfortunately
EDIT: and I understand this huge difference between jsut cp and achievements but achievements thread I will say was just last inflate to explosion of feeling what I see with this game community as how everyone are upset for any changes with QoL improvment to some people while not touching other people who dont wnat these changes for jsut themselves Edited by Edziu on December 6, 2018 11:07PM0 -
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I dont know what's worse. The idea of character bound CP, the (possible) attempt at a troll thread, or the complete lack of punctuation and capital letters in your post. Nothing would be the death of ESO faster than making CP character bound.1 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
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well this I would not name handicapp everyone but balance them to every new character and player with it going with this meaning for many other casuals and RP's
I'm sure the casuals will thank you for being stuck with one char only - not.0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
I dont know what's worse. The idea of character bound CP, the (possible) attempt at a troll thread, or the complete lack of punctuation and capital letters in your post. Nothing would be the death of ESO faster than making CP character bound.
how about character bound every sets except those crafted?
and sorry but as my english isnt my native language then my punctuation will not be better
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Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LOL.
Someone wasn't here when we had the Veteran Ranks System.
You had to grind each toon up to lvl 50 and then you weren't done. You also had to grind 16 veteran ranks. Which were the equivalent of 5-10 levels.
Account wide CP was supposed to be the solution to that.
I can't believe we still have people addicted to vertical progression.
Repeat after me.
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »
I'm sure the casuals will thank you for being stuck with one char only - not.
casuals or not...this idea was from few posts I have seen where other people was saying about this as this should be in game and we should thank to everyone this isnt with collectibles and costumes etc
mainly I had even never though I can though about this 0 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
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how about character bound every sets except those crafted?
and sorry but as my english isnt my native language then my punctuation will not be better
How about making all gear BoP. From trial to crafting. I'm sure the RPs will welcome such changes. Wanna look awesome, craft it yourself.
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And yet you can wear the silver vAS skin on your level 10 character (but not the title). I used to be against account achievements but I do support an account-tier view as it's a case of "I, the player, am capable of getting vMA stormproof". When it comes to trial and DLC dungeon achievements, it becomes less about the individual character and sometimes you have to switch toons to have better group composition.John_Falstaff wrote: »Really, I think you should see difference between achievements and CPs. CPs are unnamed, generic experience, not attached to anything particular you do - you're just playing game to get that experience. On another hand, many achievements wouldn't make sense if they were account bound. You got that Stormproof on your magsorc, but how does it apply to your skill of handling your stamplar in vMA? There's logic to have one things account-wide and others character-wide.EP CP160+ Templar, Sorc, NB
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tspecherb14_ESO✭✭✭No. It would kill any desire to make another character. Re-leveling to 50 is enough.1 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »
How about making all gear BoP. From trial to crafting. I'm sure the RPs will welcome such changes. Wanna look awesome, craft it yourself.
ye if we going this then why not, crafters at all are not usefull to much than for ourselves for transmutation xD0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭And yet you can wear the silver vAS skin on your level 10 character (but not the title). I used to be against account achievements but I do support an account-tier view as it's a case of "I, the player, am capable of getting vMA stormproof". When it comes to trial and DLC dungeon achievements, it becomes less about the individual character and sometimes you have to switch toons to have better group composition.
ouch thank you very much xD
even forgot about to mention skins where most of skins are awarded for realy hard content and its not problem to by account shared but titles for even done full fighters guild story line is character bound or for completing some dungs/other content without challenge mode0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »LOL.
Someone wasn't here when we had the Veteran Ranks System.
You had to grind each toon up to lvl 50 and then you weren't done. You also had to grind 16 veteran ranks. Which were the equivalent of 5-10 levels.
Account wide CP was supposed to be the solution to that.
I can't believe we still have people addicted to vertical progression.
Repeat after me.
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS
well I was since bete...I was whiel was vet ranks and then deleted and replaced by cp which as for now with high cp in compare to this at beggining...it reale very bad power creep which wast while at vet ranks
"VERTICAL PROGRESSION IS MEANINGLESS" - and so to this we have planty of threads about how meaningless grind of all guilds skillines is and even about skyshards/skillpoints baside character lvling and dungs0 -
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✭If there is one thing I am glad is gone from the game it's leveling every character individually in vet ranks. Seriously, I would rather be stabbed in the eye than go back to that nonsense.PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts1 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
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how about character bound every sets except those crafted?
and sorry but as my english isnt my native language then my punctuation will not be better
So now you want me to farm 8 VMA staffs instead of one? This is going from bad to worse.
You are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am all for increasing things that are account wide. I would start with achievements, followed by, AP, Skyshards, and guild lines. I think the best way to implement these would be with toggles, so that if people didn't want things account wide they wouldnt have to. If I have to do that psijic quest one more time, I might lose my $h!t. Haha2 -
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✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
So now you want me to farm 8 VMA staffs instead of one? This is going from bad to worse.
You are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am all for increasing things that are account wide. I would start with achievements, followed by, AP, Skyshards, and guild lines. I think the best way to implement these would be with toggles, so that if people didn't want things account wide they wouldnt have to. If I have to do that psijic quest one more time, I might lose my $h!t. Haha
well hahah, if you could see thread with askyshardsa account bound and mine thread before for acheivements account share
for evey idea was option with toggle etc to not break immersion of RP's but guess what
I got lynched from 90% of people defending it to stay character bound and as I wrote before few times...I have up with my opinions and suggest for some things to be account shared with toggable option
EDIT: and this thread was mianly troll after get "explosion" of feeling how I feel underpower to everyone defending every small nonsense as its good as it is
while I was like your opinion with account shared things but ehh...I jsut have no more power to stay with it as RP's thinking is much louder than suggestions with good and reasonable argument which could reall improve QoL many players Edited by Edziu on December 6, 2018 11:35PM1 -
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✭I already don't play other characters because it requires grinding too much. I would rather more things be account wide like guilds and skyshards, or at least be optional.1 -
Aisle9✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
So now you want me to farm 8 VMA staffs instead of one? This is going from bad to worse.
You are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am all for increasing things that are account wide. I would start with achievements, followed by, AP, Skyshards, and guild lines. I think the best way to implement these would be with toggles, so that if people didn't want things account wide they wouldnt have to. If I have to do that psijic quest one more time, I might lose my $h!t. Haha
Ikr, I need to farm psijic on the warden and I'm just procrastinating like a boss
(Warden is a stamina healer now, that's it)
Edited by Aisle9 on December 6, 2018 11:36PMArtemis Absinthe - DC magicka nightblade (PC - EU)
Gruzosh Barrelsmasher - DC stamina sorcerer (PC - EU)
Kew'bacca - AD stamina nightblade (PC - EU)
Jebediah Orbrynn - DC magicka templar (PC - EU)
Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
Olaf Proudstache - Mule - No longer with us Now a Stamwarden healer
Aglieglie Brazorf - AD magicka sorcerer (PC - EU)
Rodolfo Lavandino - DC stamina, greatsword wielding, Jesus beam spamming, Redguard hybrid templar just a stamplar again (PC - EU)
Lemmy Raise Master - EP stamina necromancer (PC - EU)
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✭Crixus8000 wrote: »I already don't play other characters because it requires grinding too much. I would rather more things be account wide like guilds and skyshards, or at least be optional.
same but try to explain many players defending with nonstop same arguments
I have tried and I failed with many more and different arguments/suggestions0
