make CP character bound

MattT1988

Oh wow. I’ve seen some bad ideas around here, but hoo boy. This ones right up there on this list. Your basically suggesting we return to the vet ranks. There’s a good reason why they changed that in the first place. This game is already grindy enough and you want to multiply that by 16???? What in the holy hell is wrong with you?

QUEZ420

Um noty.

oxygen_thief

You are playing too much get a life

Aria_GuildDestroyer

mocap

i'm not that type of players who instantly say NO to any idea on this forum but....... NO ! )
Even if they add a future to separate CP from new character (old ones remain the same), almost nobody will use this future.

Mr_Walker

You're drunk, op. Go home.

Ackadian

Enough with the grind, this ain't no korean mmo

Bubbastic

OP, just go back to sleep and let us play... Insane proposition. I think you like to make people anger...

IndorilArwynLlethran

OP, don't buy that weed anymore.

Lifemocker

Simple answer is, No. I do not want that.

mague

The only yes/no should be in the settings.

Share CP ? [ ]yes [ ]no
Share undaunted ? [ ]yes [ ]no
Share xyz ? [ ]yes [ ]no
Share all ? [ ]yes [ ]no

zaria

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

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Aisle9 wrote: »

No

Please and thank you.

I already rage every time I have to farm lorebooks and skyshards again...

But what if we agreed to make those account bound but cp became character bound....

CP takes far more than 10 times as long as getting skillpoints and level mage guild and undaunted. It take over an half year getting to cp cap

Rowjoh

No.

Obviously one of the most important aspects of the game is the ability to create other characters (which isn't hard and doesn't take that long if you know how! ) so players can experience and enjoy different roles, abilities and play styles.

Take that away and ESO looses its depth, diversity and creativity - no one would ever roll another character if they had to grind cp per character and the game would die faster than you can type 'yet another silly nerf thread'.

idk

It helps to understand the history of CP and why we have it.

Zos replaced the vet ranks with CP because the vet ranks was an arduous task to level it up on each character. Outside of the horrid performance of the game during the early months this was probably the biggest complaint about the game.

So it is extremely unlikely Zos would go back to such an archaic design.

TBH, I did not read past the first few sentences of the OP. If I got it wrong and OP is not advocating CP earned per character vs it being by account as it is now then my bad.

John_Falstaff

Seri wrote: »

And yet you can wear the silver vAS skin on your level 10 character (but not the title). I used to be against account achievements but I do support an account-tier view as it's a case of "I, the player, am capable of getting vMA stormproof". When it comes to trial and DLC dungeon achievements, it becomes less about the individual character and sometimes you have to switch toons to have better group composition.

Skins are account-wide more because it's a vanity thing, most skins, personalities, costumes are are account-wide and I can see a reason for that too. There's a subtle difference here - people can run vAS to make their other (or all) characters pretty-looking in it, so wearing skin isn't much of a proof of achievement as title is. Skin is there to look good. Title is there to say 'I did this' - it's why I feel that vanity things like skins are all right being account wide, but title is another beast, it says that you're good at being this class/spec enough to finish that content. If you've switched from sDK to magblade to get a clear - means you have nothing to brag with on your sDK, even if it's because raid leader told you to go magicka. As a player, I may be capable of getting stormproof on a petsorc, but it'll be much more difficult on stamDK, it defines the amount of skill I have to have to earn it.

Edziu

John_Falstaff wrote: »

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Seri wrote: »

And yet you can wear the silver vAS skin on your level 10 character (but not the title). I used to be against account achievements but I do support an account-tier view as it's a case of "I, the player, am capable of getting vMA stormproof". When it comes to trial and DLC dungeon achievements, it becomes less about the individual character and sometimes you have to switch toons to have better group composition.

Skins are account-wide more because it's a vanity thing, most skins, personalities, costumes are are account-wide and I can see a reason for that too. There's a subtle difference here - people can run vAS to make their other (or all) characters pretty-looking in it, so wearing skin isn't much of a proof of achievement as title is. Skin is there to look good. Title is there to say 'I did this' - it's why I feel that vanity things like skins are all right being account wide, but title is another beast, it says that you're good at being this class/spec enough to finish that content. If you've switched from sDK to magblade to get a clear - means you have nothing to brag with on your sDK, even if it's because raid leader told you to go magicka. As a player, I may be capable of getting stormproof on a petsorc, but it'll be much more difficult on stamDK, it defines the amount of skill I have to have to earn it.

well we can say same things about titles and skins together as they all should be character bound or should be no problem to be account bound

we have skins account bound because of collectibles while titles are character bound in character tab to choose

so why we dont make:

- skins same locked as titles, to cheese from character window and it will be usable only on this char which you get - well this have sense so 50 lvl character with build have done something to get this, not lvl3 character which is jsut leveling and even have no skillpoints to redistribute for every passive

- titles could be moved also into collectibles like we have skins...we have many titles and most of them easier to get than skins but many need very much time like for example just master angler (I dont think I would know someone normally playing to get this on every his alt) and why I cant use this title on my other character which not get this achievement while I can use vMoL skin etc on even 1 lvl character in tutorial map?

SHADOW2KK

Ye ok OP, I got 1070 or so CP`s, would have more but I cannot be bothered playing the game more than doing my daily writs on 14 chars at moment, but to go and get my CP`s back on every character?

Are you mad?

ZoS do not listen to this garbage proposal.

Tan9oSuccka

People are on a roll with bad ideas lately.

Good grief.

Edziu

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Ye ok OP, I got 1070 or so CP`s, would have more but I cannot be bothered playing the game more than doing my daily writs on 14 chars at moment, but to go and get my CP`s back on every character?

Are you mad?

ZoS do not listen to this garbage proposal.

same as ZOS dont listen to garbage suggestion about toggle account bound achievs, skyshareds/skillpoints, guild levels etc
eveything new account share idea is garbage in opinion of most forum warriors

mxxo

No.

Aisle9

BoneShatterer wrote: »

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Aisle9 wrote: »

No

Please and thank you.

I already rage every time I have to farm lorebooks and skyshards again...

Less grinds please, not more.

scared to have to earn your wings on a new char?
go for skyrim mode or for the most experience mmo gamers... go FF mode since this game was around long before bethesda knew how to make video games xD all class all jobs all cp on the same char and befre you rage? SILENCE FOOL! FF5 , FFT had it on ps1 and FF11had it on Ps2 and you loved it

No, I just hate lazy ways to artificially stretch the replay value of a game by adding more mindless grinds.

Wouldn't be an issue anyways, because all my character slots are used, I can't make a new toon without deleting another.

Also, I never owned a console in my life. Played a bit on a friend's NES back in the day, but that's it.

Hope this clarifies your confusion on the matter.
Have a nice day.


BTW, that was bait of excellent quality, I couldn't help myself, good job.

John_Falstaff

@Edziu , personally, I would have no issues with skins being character-bound too, it would indeed be fair as skins hint at the fact that this character is vMoL-ready and player handles that character well enough to clear vMoL. I just said that I can also understand why people want to keep skins account-wide as collectibles - simply because they also serve aesthetic purposes. Title is just that: "look, I'm that good", no other purpose. Skin is also an eye-candy, that's the only difference that justifies skins being collectibles.

mikemacon

No.

DivineFirstYOLO

Edziu wrote: »

well you see good
after I have seen many different posts and thereads I coudl find with it people who will be fine to have also CP as singel character progression
after I thought some I think they are right at all

You better leave the thinking part to other people, you're not good at it.

Emma_Overload

NO.

Edziu

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

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Edziu wrote: »

well you see good
after I have seen many different posts and thereads I coudl find with it people who will be fine to have also CP as singel character progression
after I thought some I think they are right at all

You better leave the thinking part to other people, you're not good at it.

you better dont post to something at start thread without even looking on next pages

hedna123b14_ESO

Edziu wrote: »

well you see good
after I have seen many different posts and thereads I coudl find with it people who will be fine to have also CP as singel character progression
after I thought some I think they are right at all

lets look from 1 side...this is real grind to get cap cp from 0 but wait, at all every new character which we create is grind with everyting from nothing like skillpoints, skilline xp etc even acheivement which we can say many we could be able to done only if we have over 300cp and with it we need to have great team to be able do them

there was many threads to make some grinds account share like just skyshards for skillpoints, or guild leveled to max and in every ask to have something account share we was overposted we cant, this is bad for everyone
so here I got that feel finally as they are righ, every character we create is supposed by ZOS to have his own progression, quest, exploration, learning recipes, motifs etc

and here Im asking...why we dont have character bound cp? we all can say it CP have really huuuuge impact for our new character if we have got 500+ cp on our main

and dont say I can play without redistributing cp on my new character because I will not feel goo with it as someone next to me even on tutorial quest can have just redistributed his cap cp on this freshly created character which would be not fair as why I should handicap myself with it when I just have avaible access to this like everyone else?

tbh its not that hard these days to grind cp for every our character, we have many xp bosters, lower cp lvls need realy low amount of cp so its really easy to get this minimum 300 at start and daily bonus xp for random dung also is per character even when it is maxed and just gaining CP

You're either a troll, in which case 10/10:)))
Or have single digit IQ, in which case I'm sorry...

Edziu

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

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Edziu wrote: »

well you see good
after I have seen many different posts and thereads I coudl find with it people who will be fine to have also CP as singel character progression
after I thought some I think they are right at all

lets look from 1 side...this is real grind to get cap cp from 0 but wait, at all every new character which we create is grind with everyting from nothing like skillpoints, skilline xp etc even acheivement which we can say many we could be able to done only if we have over 300cp and with it we need to have great team to be able do them

there was many threads to make some grinds account share like just skyshards for skillpoints, or guild leveled to max and in every ask to have something account share we was overposted we cant, this is bad for everyone
so here I got that feel finally as they are righ, every character we create is supposed by ZOS to have his own progression, quest, exploration, learning recipes, motifs etc

and here Im asking...why we dont have character bound cp? we all can say it CP have really huuuuge impact for our new character if we have got 500+ cp on our main

and dont say I can play without redistributing cp on my new character because I will not feel goo with it as someone next to me even on tutorial quest can have just redistributed his cap cp on this freshly created character which would be not fair as why I should handicap myself with it when I just have avaible access to this like everyone else?

tbh its not that hard these days to grind cp for every our character, we have many xp bosters, lower cp lvls need realy low amount of cp so its really easy to get this minimum 300 at start and daily bonus xp for random dung also is per character even when it is maxed and just gaining CP

You're either a troll, in which case 10/10:)))
Or have single digit IQ, in which case I'm sorry...

I think this 1st option ;p
if you could look at page 2 :P

and still cant belive how people are get trolled by this and thanks this thread I see how many people are here on forum who even dont try to look at thread in overall how it went but instead they only look at just 1st post and barely aven full 1st page adn then they posting many nonsense to this thread because of skipped "content" inside of this

Austinseph1

Abesolutely not. That’s one step forward and 18 steps back.

Edziu

and next one who have problem to acknowledge atlest start of this rhread - 1st 2-3 pages and then is posting nonsense tot his thread on showing how lazy or ignorant is

now I know why many people in different threads are mainly opposite to any any chagnes with good arguments as how it could work as they have problem to read with undersstanding if even reading more than 1st sentence of proposals