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No free crates for ESO+ members during the next trial period

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  • Jayne_Doe
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    yodased wrote: »
    Why is there so much entitled b.s. around stuff like this.

    You made the choice to buy ESO+, regardless of whatever else was going on.

    To say that a company is now "stealing" from you because they are giving other people a taste of what you paid for is illogical.

    You are the type of person to *** at the cop who pulled you over when everyone was speeding. WHY ME?

    Comparing yourself to other people is a very unhealthy way to go through life, you will never be happy.

    Why can't you simply realize that some people have no idea what ESO+ is or does, other people can't afford it. Just because you made the choice to buy it, that irrelevant to any one else.

    When an item that you bought yesterday goes on sale today do you go to the store and demand the difference? It's the same thing, that store is stealing potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars from you.

    Equity does not mean equality, you don't deserve anything beyond what you paid for. Demanding compensation for some weird idea of fairness is not what intelligent people do.

    I largely agree with you, although I just wanted to point out that some people probably do go back to a store where they recently made a large purchase if it went on sale the next day, and some stores do offer to match sale prices if an item a customer purchased goes on sale within a given period, and some even match sale prices of other stores if a customer brings it to their attention. But, that's usually for large purchases of say, a new TV, a washer/dryer, or some other large home electronics and not things like movies or video games. All of us have bought games, movies, etc. at full price, knowing full well it'll be on sale later.

    Back to the topic: I'm not that worried about not getting crates this time. In fact, when I first started reading the article, I was thinking "Oh, free crates coming." Then by the time I finished the article, I had forgotten all about free crates. Giving us crates was a nice gesture, but not necessary. And, as someone else mentioned, there are additional benefits, other than just the crown stipend, that we have access to as ESO+ members that those with the free trial won't get.

    I will say, though, that I rather enjoyed all the crates we got during previous ESO+ trial events, as well as the ones from the daily rewards. They enabled me to either get outright some items that I liked (but would never gamble for) or to purchase them with gems. I only have about a dozen gems now, though, but I got a lot of cool items with all the free gems I've gotten. But, I think that we won't see the kind of free crate bonanza we had with the launch of the daily reward system and will now probably only get a few each month moving forward. That's fine, though, as I don't think they want people to continue to get a lot of free stuff from crates without spending a single crown on them.

    I am rather intrigued by the 12-month sub on ALL platforms. As of right now, XB only has the option of a monthly sub, which is $14.99 plus tax. I'd love to finally get a discount on subs that PC players have been getting since day one. But, it'd be nice if we were to also get the 3-month and 6-month options. But, I'll take a 12-month sub over the $15+ monthly.
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  • Davor
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    Oh my. I pay for this network and that network while people get it for free a month. I pay satellite channels and they are offering a week free preview. I have bought this video game or that video game and now people are playing it for free on a weekend.

    My god this is not fair. Why am I playing a game that I paid for when others get to play for free.

    Come on. You wanted ESO+ so that is why you got it. What is wrong with allowing other people trying it out? Also, people are being robbed? Really? Is your ESO+ being taken away from Zenimax? No it's not. You still have your service you paid for. Heaven forbid someone gets it to try out to see if they really want it or not realize that they want it now and didn't know they were missing out.



    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
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  • weedgenius
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    That's also the week when we get to see just what kind of discount they're offering on the Ebon Steel Dwarven Spider. If it's a deep discount, then honestly inexpensive collectibles throughout the year will probably feel better than farming some gems every few months. And with the 12 month ESO+ plan just announced in that article, there's probably a few other things we don't know about yet.
    Yes you're right, for once I agree with you! :wink: I'll be interested in seeing what the exclusive discounts/deals actually look like for ESO+ members and I'll mostly reserve judgement until we get a feel for those. If there are genuinely some good opportunities to snag a deal on crown items every month, I can see the benefit.
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  • Danikat
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    I guess they realised giving out free crates doesn't encourage people to buy more of them.

    I'm sure ZOS hoped everyone would share all the cool collectables and useful potions, scrolls etc. they got - browse the listings to see what they missed and read about what everyone else got and decide it's worth picking up a few extra crates for another go at the things they missed.

    Although I've thought much the same about the free ESO+ trials. I realise ZOS will never tell us but I've often wondered if the number of subscribers actually goes up noticeably after a trial. I'm sure I'm not the only one who logs into each character to dump stuff in the crafting bag, tweaks the dyes on a couple of costumes and then carries on playing as normal, but I also have no idea if I'm representive of non-subscribers or not. Maybe other people really are charmed by the benefits or decide they cannot stand the thought of losing the crafting bag and start paying for it.
    Edited by Danikat on November 7, 2018 6:35PM
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  • Monsieur
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    I wonder if ZOS are planning on doing away with Crown crates due to the the bad press press of loot boxes in gaming in general.

    Having ESO+ exclusive items on the crown store guarantees additional income of at least 1 month for those who want an exclusive item - let’s say an Apex mount.
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  • cheifsoap
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    ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    Thank you for sharing your concerns with us. Our goal is to provide our ESO Plus members with valuable benefits and exclusive offers on a more consistent cadence every month, instead of a few bonus rewards every once in a while.

    In addition to the original ESO Plus membership benefits such as full DLC access and the Craft Bag, on November 13 we will launch additional monthly improvements to our ESO Plus membership. These new benefits - available only to paid ESO Plus members - include exclusive Crown Store items and deals, free in-game collectibles, and an increase to the monthly Crown stipend. If you haven't yet, you can learn more about them here.

    Will any of this stuff be retroactive for us 6 mo. subscription members?
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  • todokete
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    Wow I'm not subbing then
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  • Danikat
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    cheifsoap wrote: »
    ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    Thank you for sharing your concerns with us. Our goal is to provide our ESO Plus members with valuable benefits and exclusive offers on a more consistent cadence every month, instead of a few bonus rewards every once in a while.

    In addition to the original ESO Plus membership benefits such as full DLC access and the Craft Bag, on November 13 we will launch additional monthly improvements to our ESO Plus membership. These new benefits - available only to paid ESO Plus members - include exclusive Crown Store items and deals, free in-game collectibles, and an increase to the monthly Crown stipend. If you haven't yet, you can learn more about them here.

    Will any of this stuff be retroactive for us 6 mo. subscription members?

    None of it is retroactive the benefits start for all subscribers at the same time, but people whose subscription is already in progress (regardless of how many months they've paid for) will get the extra crowns for November onwards added to their account by the end of November, and will of course be able to pick up the statue and other items from the crown store when they become available.
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  • weedgenius
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    cheifsoap wrote: »
    ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    Thank you for sharing your concerns with us. Our goal is to provide our ESO Plus members with valuable benefits and exclusive offers on a more consistent cadence every month, instead of a few bonus rewards every once in a while.

    In addition to the original ESO Plus membership benefits such as full DLC access and the Craft Bag, on November 13 we will launch additional monthly improvements to our ESO Plus membership. These new benefits - available only to paid ESO Plus members - include exclusive Crown Store items and deals, free in-game collectibles, and an increase to the monthly Crown stipend. If you haven't yet, you can learn more about them here.

    Will any of this stuff be retroactive for us 6 mo. subscription members?
    @cheifsoap @DjinnRa @cecibergesnrb18_ESO From the link Jess posted:
    As an ESO Plus member, you will receive an additional 150 Crowns as part of your monthly stipend, bringing your total to 1650 per month. Note that if you are partly though a 3- or 6-month membership, you will be credited your bonus crowns by the end of November.
    So it looks like you'll be getting a lump sum at the end of this month (150x the # of months you are into your subscription).
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  • Colecovision
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    I cancelled mine. Gonna play a few days without, take the free week and then go til the game sucks without plus and resub. So, probably 3 or 4 days.

    No tantrum or entitlement. Just taking the best deal on the table. I'm pretty sure new extra monthly benefits will still be available towards the end of the month.
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  • EQBallzz
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    DjinnRa wrote: »
    I wonder about this though:

    "So, from November 13, as an existing paid member, you’ll be able to benefit from an increase of the monthly crown stipend from 1500 to 1650 crowns and enjoy a host of new, exclusive rewards every month."

    For those of us with an active six month sub with a little over three months left on it before renewal, do we get the difference in the new crown amount per month or does it only begin when our sub renews? For example, my six month sub renews around the end of January so are they going to toss me a few hundred crowns now when Nov 13th hits?

    I was wondering about this as well. If you buy in 3 or 6 month packages will we be retro-actively awarded this increased amount? Somehow, I sort of doubt it.
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  • Alex_Lex
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    The best reaction is unsub and negative review in Steam or whatever.

    Money is all ZOS cares.
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  • weedgenius
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    EQBallzz wrote: »
    DjinnRa wrote: »
    I wonder about this though:

    "So, from November 13, as an existing paid member, you’ll be able to benefit from an increase of the monthly crown stipend from 1500 to 1650 crowns and enjoy a host of new, exclusive rewards every month."

    For those of us with an active six month sub with a little over three months left on it before renewal, do we get the difference in the new crown amount per month or does it only begin when our sub renews? For example, my six month sub renews around the end of January so are they going to toss me a few hundred crowns now when Nov 13th hits?

    I was wondering about this as well. If you buy in 3 or 6 month packages will we be retro-actively awarded this increased amount? Somehow, I sort of doubt it.

    Hey @EQBallzz Check out my post a couple comments above yours! :smile:
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  • Danikat
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    Kanar wrote: »
    There's a lot of zos white knights in here. A couple points:
    1. Some have mentioned items/services going on sale after you buy. I would point out that you're a fool if you DON'T go back to the store and get the sale price. Or, price match through credit card. With services like cable, all you have to do is call them and you can get the new customer price. I mean, really, "a fool and his money are soon parted."
    2. If you go into a restaurant and buy a burger, pay $4, and then after you the cashier gives free burgers to everyone then you will be mad too. Just because you don't see the ESO+ scenario the same, does not mean it isn't.
    3. Zos can just add 1 week to all our subs to make up for the free week.

    If you'd tried 1. in any shop I've ever worked in you'd be told "I'm very sorry you missed this promotion, better luck next time maybe". And you could shout and stamp and demand to speak to the manager all you like (and trust me people do) or threaten to report us to Trading Standards or your MP or your mum or whatever other authority figure you imagine might be able to change it and even if you actually did nothing at all would happen. You didn't qualify for the promotion, end of discussion.

    As for 2. if you've ever eaten in a restaurant and didn't assume at least 1 table was using a voucher or some other offer to get a discount on the exact same meal you're getting then you're deluding yourself.

    3. They can, but they won't.
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  • EQBallzz
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    EQBallzz wrote: »
    DjinnRa wrote: »
    I wonder about this though:

    "So, from November 13, as an existing paid member, you’ll be able to benefit from an increase of the monthly crown stipend from 1500 to 1650 crowns and enjoy a host of new, exclusive rewards every month."

    For those of us with an active six month sub with a little over three months left on it before renewal, do we get the difference in the new crown amount per month or does it only begin when our sub renews? For example, my six month sub renews around the end of January so are they going to toss me a few hundred crowns now when Nov 13th hits?

    I was wondering about this as well. If you buy in 3 or 6 month packages will we be retro-actively awarded this increased amount? Somehow, I sort of doubt it.

    Hey @EQBallzz Check out my post a couple comments above yours! :smile:

    Nice. Good to hear.
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