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No free crates for ESO+ members during the next trial period

weedgenius
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https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55165

Just a heads up in case you were expecting them.
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  • Jakx
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    Yea makes no sense. My sub runs out right before the free trial. Whats my incentive to sub during the trial now? Might as well take the free days and sub after. The dumb mini statue can wait a few days.
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  • Orchidae
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    With no perks or added time to our subs, it basically equates to current ESO+ members paying for a week of sub that everyone else gets free. I can't see how that works in any way. Bad form, ZOS.
  • rynth
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    wow what complete bs people complain about getting crates and getting a bunch of junk even when it's free, people complain about free daily rewards and some of the junk in them, now they change it up a bit give a statue instead of crates (which we get in the monthly rewards already). You people never stop complaining about getting free stuff.
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  • Salvas_Aren
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    rynth wrote: »
    wow what complete bs people complain about getting crates and getting a bunch of junk even when it's free, people complain about free daily rewards and some of the junk in them, now they change it up a bit give a statue instead of crates (which we get in the monthly rewards already). You people never stop complaining about getting free stuff.

    Maybe the free stuff will be discontinued. Then the people will complain about not getting free stuff. :p
  • Orchidae
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    In this case, it's not free stuff. This is a week of subscription that we have already paid for, and when it is given to everyone else for free (and we are still charged for it), it basically equates to stealing from us. The previous rewards issued were basically compensation for services that we had already purchased.
  • weedgenius
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    rynth wrote: »
    wow what complete bs people complain about getting crates and getting a bunch of junk even when it's free, people complain about free daily rewards and some of the junk in them, now they change it up a bit give a statue instead of crates (which we get in the monthly rewards already). You people never stop complaining about getting free stuff.

    You do realize the ESO+ subscription costs money, right? Considering they're giving away 20% of what you've paid for that month for free to everyone, it's more like compensation than a free gift.
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  • weedgenius
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    Orchidae wrote: »
    In this case, it's not free stuff. This is a week of subscription that we have already paid for, and when it is given to everyone else for free (and we are still charged for it), it basically equates to stealing from us. The previous rewards issued were basically compensation for services that we had already purchased.
    Rofl we just posted almost the same thing at the same time.
    Edited by weedgenius on November 7, 2018 5:51PM
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  • Wildberryjack
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    I wonder about this though:

    "So, from November 13, as an existing paid member, you’ll be able to benefit from an increase of the monthly crown stipend from 1500 to 1650 crowns and enjoy a host of new, exclusive rewards every month."

    For those of us with an active six month sub with a little over three months left on it before renewal, do we get the difference in the new crown amount per month or does it only begin when our sub renews? For example, my six month sub renews around the end of January so are they going to toss me a few hundred crowns now when Nov 13th hits?
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  • Acrolas
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    There hasn't been an official discussion post yet, and Facebook and Twitter haven't posted yet. I'm sure they'll field some questions when those channels go live.

    That's also the week when we get to see just what kind of discount they're offering on the Ebon Steel Dwarven Spider. If it's a deep discount, then honestly inexpensive collectibles throughout the year will probably feel better than farming some gems every few months. And with the 12 month ESO+ plan just announced in that article, there's probably a few other things we don't know about yet.
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    As mentioned above, ESO Plus Free Trial members will not benefit from the above rewards and bonuses.

    I'm guessing that's the reason for the no crates - all those "new ESO+ features" (crown store discounts & exclusives/etc) are only for actual ESO+ subbers. So that's your "but I'm already subbed!" bonus.
    Edited by Kiralyn2000 on November 7, 2018 5:32PM
  • Bouldercleave
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    Wow, you guys will complain about almost anything.

    I'd gladly share a week of ESO+ free for people who are on the fence about it and may decide to sub and support the game as a result. I already know the benefits of subbing and would be happy for others to find out too.



    Are you guys seriously complaining that someone got something for free that you invested less than 4 bucks on? Seriously?

    That is some petty BS right there.
  • yodased
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    Why is there so much entitled b.s. around stuff like this.

    You made the choice to buy ESO+, regardless of whatever else was going on.

    To say that a company is now "stealing" from you because they are giving other people a taste of what you paid for is illogical.

    You are the type of person to *** at the cop who pulled you over when everyone was speeding. WHY ME?

    Comparing yourself to other people is a very unhealthy way to go through life, you will never be happy.

    Why can't you simply realize that some people have no idea what ESO+ is or does, other people can't afford it. Just because you made the choice to buy it, that irrelevant to any one else.

    When an item that you bought yesterday goes on sale today do you go to the store and demand the difference? It's the same thing, that store is stealing potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars from you.

    Equity does not mean equality, you don't deserve anything beyond what you paid for. Demanding compensation for some weird idea of fairness is not what intelligent people do.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    People complain when there is no free stuff, people complain when there is free stuff.

    Most of the time ZoS annoys me, but I really do feel their pain on this insoluble great matter.
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  • weedgenius
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    As mentioned above, ESO Plus Free Trial members will not benefit from the above rewards and bonuses.

    I'm guessing that's the reason for the no crates - all those "new ESO+ features" (crown store discounts & exclusives/etc) are only for actual ESO+ subbers. So that's your "but I'm already subbed!" bonus.

    I'd rather have the 6 crates rofl :cry:
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  • Tandor
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    rynth wrote: »
    wow what complete bs people complain about getting crates and getting a bunch of junk even when it's free, people complain about free daily rewards and some of the junk in them, now they change it up a bit give a statue instead of crates (which we get in the monthly rewards already). You people never stop complaining about getting free stuff.

    Maybe the free stuff will be discontinued. Then the people will complain about not getting free stuff. :p

    That's the purpose of this thread, is it not?
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    DjinnRa wrote: »
    I wonder about this though:

    "So, from November 13, as an existing paid member, you’ll be able to benefit from an increase of the monthly crown stipend from 1500 to 1650 crowns and enjoy a host of new, exclusive rewards every month."

    For those of us with an active six month sub with a little over three months left on it before renewal, do we get the difference in the new crown amount per month or does it only begin when our sub renews? For example, my six month sub renews around the end of January so are they going to toss me a few hundred crowns now when Nov 13th hits?

    They will apply the increase pro rata. That has been confirmed. I think it's intended to happen before the end of November.
  • weedgenius
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    yodased wrote: »
    You are the type of person to *** at the cop who pulled you over when everyone was speeding. WHY ME?

    Comparing yourself to other people is a very unhealthy way to go through life, you will never be happy.

    What... are you talking about?
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  • Tandor
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    Orchidae wrote: »
    In this case, it's not free stuff. This is a week of subscription that we have already paid for, and when it is given to everyone else for free (and we are still charged for it), it basically equates to stealing from us. The previous rewards issued were basically compensation for services that we had already purchased.

    Good luck with that argument. Report back on how you got on when you've pursued it with your energy company, broadband company, and insurance companies etc, all of whom offer special rates to new customers including free trials while still insisting that you continue to pay the full rate.
  • LordSkyKnight
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55165

    Just a heads up in case you were expecting them.

    Entitlement can be a disgusting thing when it rears it’s head sometimes.

    Don’t worry about handouts for once and just play the game.

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  • SantieClaws
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    Dear travellers

    It has just been confirmed on the tweeter that indeed there will be no crates.

    "We are aiming to give ESO Plus members more consistent benefits every month, rather than a few extra bonuses here and there. Additional, monthly rewards are rolling out to ESO Plus members starting November 13"

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  • yodased
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    You are the type of person to *** at the cop who pulled you over when everyone was speeding. WHY ME?

    Comparing yourself to other people is a very unhealthy way to go through life, you will never be happy.

    What... are you talking about?

    You are so concerned with what everyone else gets. Worry about yourself.

    The analogy was if you are driving (if you are driving age, that is questionable) at the same rate of speed as everyone else, above the limit and the police pull you out of the pack, you will be indignant and ask them why they pulled you out of everyone.

    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Wolfkeks
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    I mean free crates would be awesome (more gems for this one :sweat_smile: ),
    but I'm also happy I get some more crowns and a mini molag bal statue. :smile:
    Edited by Wolfkeks on November 7, 2018 5:58PM
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  • Feanor
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    I’m actually really happy about that. Feeling forced to login isn’t an issue this time.
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  • rumple9
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    Month of the nerf
  • weedgenius
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55165

    Just a heads up in case you were expecting them.

    Entitlement can be a disgusting thing when it rears it’s head sometimes.

    Don’t worry about handouts for once and just play the game.

    People are so quick to use this buzz word. ZOS set a precedent with the ESO+ free trial crates, to the point where you can see many instances of people saying things like "I'll buy that with gems from my free trial crates" or "I'll hope for that crate cosmetic when the trial comes around" throughout the year. Bucking the precedent is worth commenting on, it doesn't mean someone thinks they HAVE THE RIGHT to something bestowed upon them by a private company. Sheesh.
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  • Cadbury
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    Some people don't like crown crates, so I imagine this is good news for them, if only briefly.
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  • xan4silkb14_ESO
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    I believe the main purpose of this Free ESO+ time is so they can have an event centered around DLC content and allow everyone to participate. I don't need free crates to "make up" for the time I could have had my ESO+ sub without paying for it. I already elected to pay for ESO+ because of the benefits it offers, not for possible bonuses(free crates) at some later date.
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    weedgenius wrote: »
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55165

    Just a heads up in case you were expecting them.

    Entitlement can be a disgusting thing when it rears it’s head sometimes.

    Don’t worry about handouts for once and just play the game.

    People are so quick to use this buzz word. ZOS set a precedent with the ESO+ free trial crates, to the point where you can see many instances of people saying things like "I'll buy that with gems from my free trial crates" or "I'll hope for that crate cosmetic when the trial comes around" throughout the year. Bucking the precedent is worth commenting on, it doesn't mean someone thinks they HAVE THE RIGHT to something bestowed upon them by a private company. Sheesh.

    And then they clearly explained why they are making the changes they are making and what they are replacing those free trial crates with.

    Precedent doesn't exist outside of law, just because they did something previously does not entitle you to feel you deserve something this time.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Loves_guars
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    Will I at least get the extra 150 crowns even if my sub started before 13 november?
    Edited by Loves_guars on November 7, 2018 6:08PM
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    rumple9 wrote: »
    Month of the nerf

    What? Months will be nerfed? This madness must end. They already nerfed February to 28.24 days. :p
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