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Why put a different timer on dremora skulls then normal world events?
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Cously✭✭✭✭✭
✭Make all resets of everything with the daily reward or provide a page in the quest log that you can see your "lockers" for every and all activities in the game.5 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭I don’t like it either. But I don’t see the big deal. If you start today doing them at 5 then you can start anytime tomorrow after 1 doing them again. I started doing mine in order yesterday as soon as event started(10am EDT). Finished one account then did my other two. Logged in this morning then after 6am I did the same thing on each account and ended up getting at least one of each page for my main account. When you start go to obsidian gorge wayshrine in Deshaan, do the delve there, come out do the dolmen there, take two steps northwest and so the public dungeon, come out and trot west And kill boss, run through normal fungal grotto or something, run through normal maelstrom and then jump in a trial when you can. Do that then the next day do the same thing.
I disagree. I do see a big deal with this. First, if I can only get on during the evening on one day, and then only during the morning on the following day, then I cannot get a gold drop that second day. Secondly, this was the issue with the dungeon event last year, with lost of complaints on the forums. I do not understand how in a full years time, the development team has failed to figure out a better way to do this, or just plainly ignored the complaints of the community. If there is a timer for me getting match penalty when I get disconnected from the server (which is absurd), then I see no reason why it is so difficult to at the very least provide a timer so that we will know when we have to go to each location.
... but at least that they are capable of fixing a crown store issue within hours of a problem arising.
Edited by Blacknight841 on October 20, 2018 5:58PM4 -
Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The individual timers, I dislike themFan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Doesn't anyone know what a pencil/pen and paper is? Most have a smart phone. Log it in there. Not a big deal as some people are making this out to be.Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭^ Devs never respond lately... only those mods making the forum writing slightly more annoying. Every time you see Z you think "devs" but no...
Gil, Finn, and Brian have all been on the boards lately.
I'm mean, I'm kinda annoyed that these are off a global reset as well, because that is way easier to manage, but, still. Life goes on.0 -
Sturmfaenger✭✭✭✭✭
✭The problem with these 20 hours-timers is that people actually have a life that does not evolve solely around ESO. So if you have time for ESO on saturday night, but on sunday only have time for ESO in the morning, the timers have not yet resetted, so you cannot participate in the event that day.
(Its different when the 20 hours timer is not for the account but for the char, you can juggle around the chars a little, but not the whole account.)
A 24 hours timer for that eventthing to get the indrik is even worse. I got my first one in the afternoon, but the next one I got at 01:00 AM, bec. I went online before going to bed and didn't want to miss it on that day.
But I certainly won't do that every night just because of the timer. So I have to skip that one, and take the next on the next evening, because thats my normal time I go online on weekdays.
You could work with that schedule or accept it - if someone would have told you the rules in advance.
Instead ZOS is not even giving the players a heads-up, but tells them "the first plunder skull that day is when you get it" is not ok. Thats not player-friendly.PC/EU9 -
majulook✭✭✭✭✭
✭This should be fixed with Mondays patch for PC, ZOS is making the timers a daily event I believe I read that it was going to be the same as the crafting writ reset times.Si vis pacem, para bellum1 -
SakuraRush✭✭✭If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.1 -
Enemoriana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SakuraRush wrote: »If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.
That's normal that some players will miss something because they don't have time and possibility or because they just don't want to do something.
But that doesn't mean that everything should be inconvenient.
And 20-hour individual timer that isn't even displayed is not convinient - for most part of players if not all.PC EU, @Enemoriana. Ru.
Houses: Erstwhile Sanctuary as actual Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary, Hunter's Glade as werewolf tavern (downstairs), Strident Springs Demesne as adventurer's house.
Wishlist: character slots, attunable stations (have 74/83 sets collected), minstrel personality, molten war torte and white gold war torte recipes, Willowpond Haven, Kor and Hildegard houseguests, crown crates.5 -
SakuraRush✭✭✭Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.
That's normal that some players will miss something because they don't have time and possibility or because they just don't want to do something.
But that doesn't mean that everything should be inconvenient.
And 20-hour individual timer that isn't even displayed is not convinient - for most part of players if not all.
I agree that it isn't convenient. But maybe it's not meant to be.1 -
Enemoriana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.
That's normal that some players will miss something because they don't have time and possibility or because they just don't want to do something.
But that doesn't mean that everything should be inconvenient.
And 20-hour individual timer that isn't even displayed is not convinient - for most part of players if not all.
I agree that it isn't convenient. But maybe it's not meant to be.
Some things - like vet trials - are difficult. That's normal. Some things are "spend a lot of time and efforts - or just pay". That's not enjoyable, but it's not hard to understand why and it's also normal. But making things complicated without reason isn't good.PC EU, @Enemoriana. Ru.
Houses: Erstwhile Sanctuary as actual Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary, Hunter's Glade as werewolf tavern (downstairs), Strident Springs Demesne as adventurer's house.
Wishlist: character slots, attunable stations (have 74/83 sets collected), minstrel personality, molten war torte and white gold war torte recipes, Willowpond Haven, Kor and Hildegard houseguests, crown crates.8 -
SakuraRush✭✭✭Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.
That's normal that some players will miss something because they don't have time and possibility or because they just don't want to do something.
But that doesn't mean that everything should be inconvenient.
And 20-hour individual timer that isn't even displayed is not convinient - for most part of players if not all.
I agree that it isn't convenient. But maybe it's not meant to be.
Some things - like vet trials - are difficult. That's normal. Some things are "spend a lot of time and efforts - or just pay". That's not enjoyable, but it's not hard to understand why and it's also normal. But making things complicated without reason isn't good.
I agree, but this isn't complicated at all.1 -
Enemoriana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.
That's normal that some players will miss something because they don't have time and possibility or because they just don't want to do something.
But that doesn't mean that everything should be inconvenient.
And 20-hour individual timer that isn't even displayed is not convinient - for most part of players if not all.
I agree that it isn't convenient. But maybe it's not meant to be.
Some things - like vet trials - are difficult. That's normal. Some things are "spend a lot of time and efforts - or just pay". That's not enjoyable, but it's not hard to understand why and it's also normal. But making things complicated without reason isn't good.
I agree, but this isn't complicated at all.
Track seven different timers without any displayed time - instead of one clear time?
Yeah, not at all.PC EU, @Enemoriana. Ru.
Houses: Erstwhile Sanctuary as actual Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary, Hunter's Glade as werewolf tavern (downstairs), Strident Springs Demesne as adventurer's house.
Wishlist: character slots, attunable stations (have 74/83 sets collected), minstrel personality, molten war torte and white gold war torte recipes, Willowpond Haven, Kor and Hildegard houseguests, crown crates.12 -
Iselin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just as I got ready to do my Dremora skulls and ticket yesterday my neighborhood was hit with a 6 hour long power outage, So now my timers are all pushed back by another 8 hours or so.
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ouch, Ise. That's really painful. However.... you could be me - I won't be able to log in from Monday morning until the stick from a friend gets here.... maybe Thursday, with luck. Sucks to have such limited download bw that I have to depend on IRL friends who play to send me their install folders after they update....0 -
SakuraRush✭✭✭Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.
That's normal that some players will miss something because they don't have time and possibility or because they just don't want to do something.
But that doesn't mean that everything should be inconvenient.
And 20-hour individual timer that isn't even displayed is not convinient - for most part of players if not all.
I agree that it isn't convenient. But maybe it's not meant to be.
Some things - like vet trials - are difficult. That's normal. Some things are "spend a lot of time and efforts - or just pay". That's not enjoyable, but it's not hard to understand why and it's also normal. But making things complicated without reason isn't good.
I agree, but this isn't complicated at all.
Track seven different timers without any displayed time - instead of one clear time?
Yeah, not at all.
There are ways to go about it without it being difficult.
For instance just recall the time of your last skull. Start 20 hours after that.
You could manually record the time for each one.
On PC I'm told there is an add on that tracks the times. I'm on console so I can't be certain of that.
You could also simply not track them at all.
The situation isn't ideal but it's also not a tragedy either. Simply inconvenient.1 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have an entire process I go through every morning. I do writs on 12 girls, the last one being the girl who's doing the Witches Festival stuff. I start around 7am MDT, and by the time I get to her, I know it's at least 20 hours (really it's darn close to 24) since the first skull/ticket from the previous day.
For me it works fine. I can log in at about the same time every day as I'm retired. For those who have RL stuff going on.... yeah, box of rocks/knot of worms.0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This should be fixed with Mondays patch for PC, ZOS is making the timers a daily event I believe I read that it was going to be the same as the crafting writ reset times.
You, like most others who cite those patch notes, are misreading them; they are specifically for quests that grant feathers. I.e., it's a PTS patch note for a fix on the PTS for the CwC and NL events, where feathers are granted by daily quests (since those were being tested on the PTS at the time). The dungeon and witches festival events are different.Edited by code65536 on October 21, 2018 2:37AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭i don't like the timers...they are inconvenient."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.1 -
ProfessorKittyhawk✭✭✭✭✭
✭The event began at 10am Thursday EST. In the past event quests reset at that time each day. Seems only fair for that to be true here as well. As the OP stated I feel like I need to schedule and keep track of when I did what thing because my work schedule isn't static throughout the week so if I have to wait to do something too late I won't be able to because I'm either working or in bed for work early the next morning. Honestly, keeping track of when every single little thing in the game resets is irritating.4 -
Lake✭✭✭✭✭I saw someone post PTS notes which said they are changing the timer to the Daily Quest reset time when Murkmire hits. Is that true?1
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I saw someone post PTS notes which said they are changing the timer to the Daily Quest reset time when Murkmire hits. Is that true?
See the third comment before yours. Short answer: no, people are misreading and misunderstanding the PTS patch notes.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
Ri_Khan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unless my account is bugged or something, I'm not getting tickets or Dremora skulls 21-22 hours after receiving them yesterday.
I'll try again at 24 hours and report back...
Edit: 24+ hours now and still no dremora skull or ticket...Edited by Ri_Khan on October 21, 2018 4:41PM0 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭im getting super frustrated with this...
i swear i've gotten 1 from the arena in 72 hours...."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.2 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I received my event ticket last night at 7:53, I received the previous event ticket at 11:53 the night before that.
The dremora skulls are independent of each other and are on a 20 hour timer
I received the event ticket with the same kind of dremora plunder skull.
I'm not a fan of each skull being on it's own timer2 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »SakuraRush wrote: »If it's difficult to track simply don't track it.
People will miss out on the feathers yes. But the reality is that people miss out on things all the time. No one gets everything, nor should we.
This isn't just a problem in ESO but in all games now. People refuse to accept they are going to miss out on things.
That's normal that some players will miss something because they don't have time and possibility or because they just don't want to do something.
But that doesn't mean that everything should be inconvenient.
And 20-hour individual timer that isn't even displayed is not convinient - for most part of players if not all.
I agree that it isn't convenient. But maybe it's not meant to be.
Some things - like vet trials - are difficult. That's normal. Some things are "spend a lot of time and efforts - or just pay". That's not enjoyable, but it's not hard to understand why and it's also normal. But making things complicated without reason isn't good.
I agree, but this isn't complicated at all.
Track seven different timers without any displayed time - instead of one clear time?
Yeah, not at all.
There are ways to go about it without it being difficult.
For instance just recall the time of your last skull. Start 20 hours after that.
You could manually record the time for each one.
On PC I'm told there is an add on that tracks the times. I'm on console so I can't be certain of that.
You could also simply not track them at all.
The situation isn't ideal but it's also not a tragedy either. Simply inconvenient.
the question is... what is the point to making it this inconvenient and unfun? video games are supposed to be fun NOT annoying for the sake of being annoying. there is litteraly ZERO virtue to having cooldowns instead of standardized daily resets. its in no way, shape or form better. so.. why defend it? its only an inconvenience =/= its a good thing that should continue to exist. vast majority of human advancement was based on trying to remove inconveniences.dirty worthless casual.
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majulook✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is from the PTS Patch notes:
"Quests that grant Event Tickets during holiday events will now refresh their ability to grant Event Tickets at the same time that Daily Quests become available again."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/440792/pts-patch-notes-v4-2-4 Post #5
So if it is a Quest that gives the Event Ticket then they will reset when Daily Quests resets starting Monday OCT 22 with the release of Murkmire.
Dremora Skulls are not a Quest so not going to change.Si vis pacem, para bellum2 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is from the PTS Patch notes:
"Quests that grant Event Tickets during holiday events will now refresh their ability to grant Event Tickets at the same time that Daily Quests become available again."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/440792/pts-patch-notes-v4-2-4 Post #5
So if it is a Quest that gives the Event Ticket then they will reset when Daily Quests resets starting Monday OCT 22 with the release of Murkmire.
Dremora Skulls are not a Quest so not going to change.
Okay, well, that will make Clockwork City a lot less stressful.
Though, on top of this, really wish our Dungeon daily timer was visible. It would make life a lot less annoying on that subject.0 -
Ingenon✭✭✭✭✭
✭mdylan2013 wrote: »People are moaning for the sake of moaning.
The only awkward ones would be the trial and arena skulls, the rest take ten minutes to do at a later time if you didn’t get the skull
Some of us "less than BIS" players take more than a few minutes to solo a world boss. And considerably more than 10 minutes to solo Maelstorm Arena. But mostly I agree.
Right now, I am trying to get the feathers for the mount, and every one of the Dremora and Hollow Jack motif. Somehow despite all the random timers, I am getting feathers for each "day". But because of RNG, I am missing a Dremora motif from Final Arena Boss, Final Trial Boss, and Delve Boss. And not knowing when to start these activities because each is on it's own timer is a pain. ZOS, please fix this.
Eventually I may end up spamming zone chat "Want to trade Dremora Motif X for Dremora Motif Y", because I have duplicates of one and none of the other.Edited by Ingenon on October 21, 2018 4:58PM1