Imperial_Voice wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

You can have a necro class when I get my g'damn barbarian/warrior class.

So looks like we both screwed.

Every stam class is a warrior class.

Sorc class is a necro if we want to use that logic.

Sorc class has no necromantic spells. All classes can use weapon skills which is all a warrior would have. You have no argument here.

No.

Sorry I didn't read it all.

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

The Case for Necromancy

The case has largely been dissuaded by the "pets are garbage" argument.

The solution lies in Dark Age of Camelot's Necromancer.

In DAOC, the Necromancer class was a pet class that became the pet. The caster became invisible/ethereal and channeled into their summoned pet and casted through and controlled the pet. It had a limited range of operation from the hidden Necromancer and when you killed the pet the Necromancer became vulnerable. The caster themselves, when not in pet form, was very weak and had little abilities.

I think it would fit in nicely in ESO. Obviously some things would have to be different, but the overall vision of that class would work.

Not at all how Necromancy works in the Elder Scrolls universe however. Still a cool idea.

I don't think they get past Necromancy=pet class. Even if the lore isn't of that nature. It's at least a solution and through the summoned pet lore based necromancy can be cast.

Inb4 they take Minor Heroism from base game to make it Necromancer's "unique" group buff.

Are we talking:

(1) a new class?

(2) a new skill line?

or (3) the ability to bump outdated threads?

Vanthras79 wrote: »

What about Necromancy and how its viewed in Argonia (aka. Black Marsh?)

Black Marsh[edit]

Corpses decay rapidly in Black Marsh, making it very difficult for necromancers to operate. This problem is compounded by disease, militant tribal Argonians, and the many other difficulties presented by life in Black Marsh. A few Sload necromancers have purportedly operated in Black Marsh with success, though even they stayed near the coast.[20]

From the uesp.

I think there is plenty of room for a Necromancer class in the game.

Furthermore I think it's something that many players want.

I am totally for a necromancy skill line

But I would also play a necromancer class. Perhaps they could have the offensive frost magic we all crave. Necromancers often use frost magic right?

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

Every stam class is a warrior class.

Yea.. my Warden Archer disagrees.

Very interesting read! I would love to play as a necromancer in the game (As I have always done in Morrowind, OBlivion, and Skyrim).

I mean, it seems like the base skills are already in the game, and didn't the Devs mention something about a "Dark Wizard" in one of their previous livestreams for Vvardenfall?

@SydneyGrey in stonefalls upper left corner the covenant are using necromancy to fight the pact 🙂

if the class has a different damage type then they will have to do a gear revamp. ie there are no disease / poison staves or useful sets.

if the class has no different damage types from the current sorc class then the spells must be really really unique and useful otherwise it is just a another sorc.

a new spell line isn't a option based on how the last one we got really suxed.

a LOT of work needs to be done imo for this to be a feasible class. perhaps that is why it hasn't been added yet.

I love the fact that everybody tries to use rather silly crutches to say no, this wouldn't work because XYZ. Necromancy isn't legal? Neither is Blood-Magic, however NBs seem to be acceptable in society. Sorcerers summon Daedra, that's also extremely taboo and illegal in many cultures, however you can run around with your matriarch and scamp wherever the hell you desire and nobody will tell you jack. There are classes that would be classified as illegal as per TES lore, however they perfectly allowed. TES lore is such a flimsy excuse in this scenario as ESO is so lore-breaking to start with.

Want more arguments for necromancy? The Mages guild has been studying it, infact Mannimarco was allowed to study it by the Psijics themselves because its still a school of magic. There are sloads in this game for Arkay's sake, they basically are necromancers, all of them, that's their shtick. Wanna know something else? The Worm Cult is literally all over the world, you really think that they wouldnt teach people how to do it? It isn't a secret art, not anymore. What class you are is not your trade in game, nobody calls you over like You! Dragonknight! Come over here! No, that doesn't happen. Literally every argument about oh it isn't legal is really bad, since, neither is damn blood-magic, but tell that to every single magnb who rely on it. Sorcerers? Yeah, summoning Daedra is always good and accepted in every culture, they little nice demons from hell, but, bringing back dead? Outrageous! No, they're both not allowed and both will get you thrown into a cell. If you wanna make an argument, make a better one cause this one is just bad, like I said.

Oh, and the argument about "Necromancers are your enemy." yeah, so are the other two alliances, I can go there and do their quest and become their hero, can't I? Everybody can! In Skyrim, Dawnguard, the Vampires were also your enemies, remember? But you could do a 180 and tell those annoying *** to *** off and enjoy your devilish Ancient Vampire powers thing, right? You can also go back to helping the good guys, you end up killing Harkon in every single scenario anyway, so that doesn't quite mean jack. Your character doesn't have to be a god damn goodie two shoes every single time. Even if there aren't many choices but a lot of ilussion of choice, what would you being able to summon a skelly or two to help you out in kicking Molag Bal's ass anyway? Skyrim, you're the Dragonborn but you can be a god damn conjurer yourself, Meridia won't give two sh. and a biscuit about that. Giving the players something they want and let them play it in the same questline as everyone else has been done countless times. You want something better? Give classes different main story lines ways. Make everything unique but don't just say we won't do this cause this. This is an MMO, not a single player experience. Saying somebody is your enemy is quite avoiding the fact that everyone on an MMO is your enemy.

Necromancy is not a hidden skill, there are tons of books written in this era about conjuration and the bring back of the dead. There are a *** ton of Necromancers in the wild, they're practically everywhere, can't turn your nose and not expect it to smell some rotten flesh being used to make a flesh attronach. You yourself made a flesh attronach in the main story, Tharn compliments you and claims, jokingly, there is still time to turn you into a necromancer. You use filled soul gems to ressurect down players, yeah, it's a game mechanic, still soul-magic and close enough to necromancy. You fight thousands of liches, skeletons, and god knows what other abominations made by these Necromancers. You have countless questlines in which you find out somebody is a god damn necromancer at the end. Dark Brotherhood isn't legal either and better than half the playerbase has a Blade of Woe.

ZOS just add Necromancy, pls.