New Murkmire Arena Weapons.

ResTandRespeC · September 2018

it'd be cool if they made the dw set do something worth replacing a 5 set bonus for. Great idea for an effect would be something that increases survivability in places like vCR/vAS and at the same time not losing so much dps that your better of taking a mag class anyways. Idk exactly how they could do that but it'd be cool.

JobooAGS · September 2018

scipionumatia wrote: »

cant wait to see what sword and board bonus is gonna be.
Also if the bow increases the range of scattershot that would be awesome 28 meters sounds about right XD

Scattershot's range should have been increased ages ago. Why have an ability who's design (and passives) is to be at range yet have a skill that is essentially at melee? The "gap opener" logic doesnt apply with 22m gap closers in play

NyassaV · September 2018

Silver_Strider wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Ward lasts 6 seconds.
Buff lasts 3 seconds.

Logic.

You can benefit from its initial heal as well as any other heals you have.

I'm aware of that but the burst heal at the end of Ward is what you'd want the buff so it seems like kind of a waste.

For magblade healing ward is sorta a "defensive spammable" if you aren't a shield stacker so it's a nice thing for magblacde. Templar may not really need it and DK... Don't get me started on DK

Valrien · September 2018

ResTandRespeC wrote: »

it'd be cool if they made the dw set do something worth replacing a 5 set bonus for. Great idea for an effect would be something that increases survivability in places like vCR/vAS and at the same time not losing so much dps that your better of taking a mag class anyways. Idk exactly how they could do that but it'd be cool.

It's going to be a Whirlwind modifier so I'm actually really curious what it'll do with spin2win

Maybe a DoT on use? Every subsequent Whirlwind does 10% more damage up to 50%?

sharquez · September 2018

Valrien wrote: »

ResTandRespeC wrote: »

it'd be cool if they made the dw set do something worth replacing a 5 set bonus for. Great idea for an effect would be something that increases survivability in places like vCR/vAS and at the same time not losing so much dps that your better of taking a mag class anyways. Idk exactly how they could do that but it'd be cool.

It's going to be a Whirlwind modifier so I'm actually really curious what it'll do with spin2win

Maybe a DoT on use? Every subsequent Whirlwind does 10% more damage up to 50%?

Asylum already mods spin 2 win

Valrien · September 2018

sharquez wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

ResTandRespeC wrote: »

it'd be cool if they made the dw set do something worth replacing a 5 set bonus for. Great idea for an effect would be something that increases survivability in places like vCR/vAS and at the same time not losing so much dps that your better of taking a mag class anyways. Idk exactly how they could do that but it'd be cool.

It's going to be a Whirlwind modifier so I'm actually really curious what it'll do with spin2win

Maybe a DoT on use? Every subsequent Whirlwind does 10% more damage up to 50%?

Asylum already mods spin 2 win

I completely forgot that we were on the 4th skill and not the third skill lol.

I got 4 hours of sleep last night tho :P

jypcy · September 2018

Anrose wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

They could just show us all weapon types and bonuses instead of leaving us with guesses what it will be..

I asked Gina if that is possible. We could give impactful feedback early. We have many arena weapons that aren't used, and I'd like to avoid that in the future.

They could show us the weapons now, but what’s the point of offering early feedback on them? Their balance changes are already set in stone before PTS live. It’s all just a wasteful formality.

Generally seems to be that way, but for example the vAS destro was nerfed. So there’s (rare) precedence.

Merlin13KAGL · September 2018

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

We already have group dungeons, trials etc. which is intended for groups.
I believe arena type of content should have difficulty scaling option for 1-3 players(if not 4 players are in group).
All group arena content should allow the option to solo it.
Leaderboard scoring could have different options, solo, 2 players, 3 players and full group.
Does it require more work on behalf of the development team ? definitely, but it will be worth it.

ROTFL.

Interesting mechanics need to have assumptions about what roles are present, how many people there are, etc. You can have old-style content where there were no mechanics--just do damage while avoiding and healing damage, and yay, you're done. But that's stupid. That's not interesting. Good and interesting mechanics involve teamwork and will stress the group composition.

It's the same reason I laughed at people who thought that this would be anything other than 4-person.

No, they shouldn't make the content so that it can be soloed. Why not? Because if they do, then it means that the design of the arena and mechanics would be compromised and worthless.

It's a MMO. If you can't get people to play with you, then maybe this is not the game for you?

Well... the point is that a lot of players (I would even assume majority) are solo players. Those players relay on group finder to complete a group content. And A LOT of group content in ESO is for some bizarre reason unsupported by group finder tool.
This means that a lot of content is locked either behind being forced to join a guild or just spam "LFG" on zone chat & hoping for the best.

I also noticed that every time there is a topic about group finder there are always some people who are very negative towards this idea. Why ? If you have a guild then you can just don't use group finder... Unless you want to prevent other people to have fun too as if they were not worthy of even have a chance to do a trial / arena & learn its mechanics.

Hmmmm...if only they'd implement a way you could make a list, perhaps of friends?

Nothing preventing solo attempts of most content in the game. Also nothing preventing said solo attempts form ending horribly.

Rittings · September 2018

Alaztor91 wrote: »

I wonder if they are gonna pull the normal/perfected bs again, like they did with the asylum ones.

I wouldn't mind that at all. Means that more people stand a chance to get a little taster of how good some of the master weapons in the game are

pteam · September 2018

What if the new arena weapons buffed ultimates instead of a skill??

SilverIce58 · September 2018

pteam wrote: »

What if the new arena weapons buffed ultimates instead of a skill??

We'll get there one day.

Finviuswe · September 2018

The Radial Uppercut set? Might as well call it the 'trashcan' set, amirite?

In other news, that resto staff looks positively OP.

Kadoin · September 2018

ZOS introducing more things that are obviously stupidly OP...The restoration staff...Really? Guess the unkillable tanks will become even stronger.

firedrgn · September 2018

I just hope the bow gets some love.

Saint314Louis1985 · September 2018

Couple of ideas for destro staff...

1) when damaging an enemy effected with ele drain, you are granted minor force
2) when you cast ele drain, you place a dot on target that does x dmg over x seconds

Enslaved · September 2018

What if zos buff snipe?

Jeremy · September 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

This is the only weapons they showed. Wish the 2h 2pc applied to all enemies around the player in a circle.

I like the idea of adding new items that enhance certain abilities/spells.

The restoration staff looks pretty good, though 3 seconds is kind of stingy. Can't really comment on the other one.

They are probably going to make the arena stupid though with cheesy instant death trial and error game play. That's usually what they have in mind when they highlight the term "challenging".

Hope I'm wrong.

Septimus_Magna · September 2018

The order of the weapon skills has changed from the original so I am little confused which skills will be altered with the Blackrose weapons.

My guess would be:
One-handed and shield: Shield Charge
Dual-wield: Blade Cloak
Bow: Scatter Shot
Destruction staff: Weakness to Elements

Two-handed: Uppercut (confirmed)
Restoration staff: Steadfast Ward (confirmed)

Does anyone remember the original order and can tell if this is correct?

Dracane · September 2018

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The order of the weapon skills has changed from the original so I am little confused which skills will be altered with the Blackrose weapons.

My guess would be:
One-handed and shield: Shield Charge
Dual-wield: Blade Cloak
Bow: Scatter Shot
Destruction staff: Weakness to Elements

Two-handed: Uppercut (confirmed)
Restoration staff: Steadfast Ward (confirmed)

Does anyone remember the original order and can tell if this is correct?

I am not sure if bow is correct, they have changed that quite a bit. The rest is true.

I was sure, Snipe will be buffed. But revisiting the skilltrees, I am convinced it will be Scatter Shot.

SilverIce58 · September 2018

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The order of the weapon skills has changed from the original so I am little confused which skills will be altered with the Blackrose weapons.

My guess would be:
One-handed and shield: Shield Charge
Dual-wield: Blade Cloak
Bow: Scatter Shot
Destruction staff: Weakness to Elements

Two-handed: Uppercut (confirmed)
Restoration staff: Steadfast Ward (confirmed)

Does anyone remember the original order and can tell if this is correct?

Yeah, the only thing they changed about bow was the position of snipe and poison arrow. I'm pretty sure that scatter shot will be the one buffed. Like 80% sure, but only if it goes down the line.

profundidob16_ESO · September 2018

Silver_Strider wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Ward lasts 6 seconds.
Buff lasts 3 seconds.

Logic.

You can benefit from its initial heal as well as any other heals you have.

I'm aware of that but the burst heal at the end of Ward is what you'd want the buff so it seems like kind of a waste.

no you don't. This staff exists to counterplay high burst. Since your emergency "healing ward" only partially covers the incoming burst damage it's healing will never trigger but as healer you are then blessed with 30% more burst healing to top him up through that entire burst damage, preventing a ninjakill

Stinkyremy · September 2018

That resto will be good in Vma, and the new arena

Arkangeloski · September 2018

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Hopefully destroy staff will improve Drain, not Impulse.

Its going to be impulse (useless skill) anyway, all magicka players are going to hate it!

B/W Stamina gets 4 weapons and why magicka only 2?

#Where IsBalanceZOS?

Restoration staff, ice staff , lightning staff and flame staff that counts 4... 2h sword , maul , axe that's 3 aww gee I wish a restoration sword for my back bar lawl. Bow and sword (mace, dagger or axe)and board count as 1 bc they don't have other variant. Dual swords , maxes , axes or maces.

SilverIce58 · September 2018

Arkangeloski wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Hopefully destroy staff will improve Drain, not Impulse.

Its going to be impulse (useless skill) anyway, all magicka players are going to hate it!

B/W Stamina gets 4 weapons and why magicka only 2?

#Where IsBalanceZOS?

Restoration staff, ice staff , lightning staff and flame staff that counts 4... 2h sword , maul , axe that's 3 aww gee I wish a restoration sword for my back bar lawl. Bow and sword (mace, dagger or axe)and board count as 1 bc they don't have other variant. Dual swords , maxes , axes or maces.

Dual wield swords, maces, axes, and daggers. Thats 4 weapons. 2h axes, mauls, and greatswords. Thats 3 weapons. If you want to go with "well technically destro has fire, ice, and shock" then we can play that game too, and theres "technically" 7 stamina typed weapons not including bow.

John_Falstaff · September 2018

You really don't have to bicker and argue and count how many weapons each spec gets, considering that, according to ESO tradition, the count of actually useful ones will be fluctuating somewhere between one and none. ^^

Danksta · September 2018

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Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

We already have group dungeons, trials etc. which is intended for groups.
I believe arena type of content should have difficulty scaling option for 1-3 players(if not 4 players are in group).
All group arena content should allow the option to solo it.
Leaderboard scoring could have different options, solo, 2 players, 3 players and full group.
Does it require more work on behalf of the development team ? definitely, but it will be worth it.

ROTFL.

Interesting mechanics need to have assumptions about what roles are present, how many people there are, etc. You can have old-style content where there were no mechanics--just do damage while avoiding and healing damage, and yay, you're done. But that's stupid. That's not interesting. Good and interesting mechanics involve teamwork and will stress the group composition.

It's the same reason I laughed at people who thought that this would be anything other than 4-person.

No, they shouldn't make the content so that it can be soloed. Why not? Because if they do, then it means that the design of the arena and mechanics would be compromised and worthless.

It's a MMO. If you can't get people to play with you, then maybe this is not the game for you?

Well... the point is that a lot of players (I would even assume majority) are solo players. Those players relay on group finder to complete a group content. And A LOT of group content in ESO is for some bizarre reason unsupported by group finder tool.
This means that a lot of content is locked either behind being forced to join a guild or just spam "LFG" on zone chat & hoping for the best.

I also noticed that every time there is a topic about group finder there are always some people who are very negative towards this idea. Why ? If you have a guild then you can just don't use group finder... Unless you want to prevent other people to have fun too as if they were not worthy of even have a chance to do a trial / arena & learn its mechanics.

Well what do you think happens when these group finder groups can't complete the content? My guess is they come here to the forums and cry for nerfs just because they couldn't face roll it with an uncoordinated group.

Danksta · September 2018

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

That resto will be very useful for the Z’Maja execute phase in vCR. I could also see it being used for the 2nd boss in vHoF to counter the centurion’s healing debuff.

I was wondering how the healing would be calculated for the second boss in vHOF. As I understand it each tick reduces your healing received by 10% up to 10 stacks for 100% healing reduction. So if the tank got 10 stacks would major vitality apply to the base healing or would it apply after the debuff, having no effect?