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What is the single most underused set in ESO?
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Sky_WK✭✭✭✭I consider the 5th bonus of this set trash:
Kagrenac's Hope:
Current:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) Decrease time to resurrect an ally by 25%. When you successfully resurrect an ally, you restore 1720 Magicka.
(5 items) Adds 222 Spell Damage
No one cares about the time to resurrect an ally.
ZOS can change Kagrenac's Hope 4th and 5th bonuses to the following and by doing so a new magicka sustain set with fine damage will be born:
New:
Kagrenac's Hope(craftable, 8 traits):
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your magicka recovery by 350 for 10 seconds.
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your spell damage by 400 for 10 seconds.
What? Kagrenac has been a staple in organized PVP and progression groups. It certainly has its place and is definitly not underused.
Well maybe some use it, but I still consider it's 5th bonus useless since most of the time the 25% faster resurrection isn't used.
The 25% faster resurrection is not making a lot of difference.
One can slot better sets and achieve much higher stats.
Umm, no. Kags is very very common in PVP. 25% res speed is very very strong when combined with templar and support passives. the stats are very good, and a bonus 5th piece spell damage to boot.i do not read replies. still playing stamdk for some reason.13 -
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✭✭✭DorianDragonRaze wrote: »Anybody use TBS? For what activities?
Historically when I've seen people asking for that to be crafted, it's during the same periods that Mundus exploits are possible.PhantomOcelot wrote: »Adept rider. This set is so underused that it it was never used. By anyone. Ever. Most likely.
One of the guilds I'm in did an Adept Rider night in Cyrodiil last week. Wish I had attended, I like theme nights. I hope to see this set buffed some day to give us back the +30% mount speed that Cyrodiil's Ward used to have, even though I believe Swift trait is the reason that was taken away. A fellow can still hope though.
Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
Oddity| Altmer Sorceror • Drizlo| Orc DragonKnight • Lady Ra Gada| Redguard Sorceror
Taste-of-Hist-Sap| Argonian Nightblade • War'den Peace| Khajiit Warden • Little Warden Annie Altmer Warden
Ports with Blood| Breton Templar • Dirty-Old-Man| Dunmer DragonKnight • Eyes-of-the-Sun| Argonian DragonKnight
Bleak Mystique| Nord Warden • Polychronopolous| Imperial Sorceror • Bullcrit| Khajiit Nightblade
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RavenSworn✭✭✭✭✭been using Ashen Grip for levelling. good stats all around, coupled with Innate Axiom. Especially when you want to level up your class skills, its just great. People say use Trainee set but ASHEN GRIP HAS FIRE BREATH. I mean cmon, fire breath? better than deathly winds >_>
My bet is Spelunker. Tried it once, to the decon bin it went.Ingame: RavenSworn, Pc / NA.
Of Wolf and Raven
Solo / Casual guild for beginners and new players wanting to join the game. Pst me for invite!1 -
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See, you actually use it. Proc sets is nice if you don't do much damage.TheCyberDruid wrote: »Does this mean that people actually use Thunderbug's Carpace? Because I do on my tank when I quest etc.
(2 items) Adds 2975 Physical Resistance
(3 items) Adds 2975 Spell Resistance
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(5 items) When you take Physical Damage, you have a 50% chance to deal 5160 Shock Damage in a 5 meter radius around you. This effect can occur once every 3 seconds.
The set is really neat when you don't do much damage and get pounded on a lot (dolmen, public dungeons and the like).
This is the opposite issue with many bis gears like old mechanical accuracy who require you to keep track of proc.
No you will not improve your one button parse using it.
Now dps gear for players who has problems with mudcrabs should probably be pinned
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭Sandman929 wrote: »I consider the 5th bonus of this set trash:
Kagrenac's Hope:
Current:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) Decrease time to resurrect an ally by 25%. When you successfully resurrect an ally, you restore 1720 Magicka.
(5 items) Adds 222 Spell Damage
No one cares about the time to resurrect an ally.
ZOS can change Kagrenac's Hope 4th and 5th bonuses to the following and by doing so a new magicka sustain set with fine damage will be born:
New:
Kagrenac's Hope(craftable, 8 traits):
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your magicka recovery by 350 for 10 seconds.
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your spell damage by 400 for 10 seconds.
What? Kagrenac has been a staple in organized PVP and progression groups. It certainly has its place and is definitly not underused.
Well maybe some use it, but I still consider it's 5th bonus useless since most of the time the 25% faster resurrection isn't used.
The 25% faster resurrection is not making a lot of difference.
One can slot better sets and achieve much higher stats.
Only if you focus on the rezzing part and not the part where it's almost as much spell power as Julianos, but with a more well rounded 2-4
Yes.
I proposed to change the 4th bonus too.
Also, the 5th bonuses I suggested would have changed the set to magicka sustain+good dps set rather than bad-low average dps+with supportive resurrection.
The 10% chance would have proc much more often due to it being calculated per every attack which inflicts damage the player is dealing.
There are too few magicka sustain sets and too few good magicka damage sets currently and what I have suggested was an hybrid of both
Your new kagranaces would be like old bone pirate but on steroids, the 10% chance means nothing if the duration is 10 seconds and it procs on all damage. You would also remove a set than many people have crafted with the expressed purpose of reducing rez time. As it stands right now, Kagranac the only crafted sets that people wear in trails.
You basically take a set and turn it into something completly different. It would be like changing vicious death to proc on your own death.
Yes what I proposed is to change the set entirely.
As to the 10% chance being a bit too strong, it can be changed to only proc on direct damage. Also, it can have a cooldown like: This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.
Nah...we good with Krag's the way it is...actually only crafted set that is run in our progression group...we have a rezplar for our vAS +1 progression...
Very underused set is Oblivion Edge
(2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) When killing an enemy, fill an empty Soul Gem and heal self for 1720.
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
I put it on whenever I have to farm something...usually fill a thousand empty soul gems in like half hour- 45 minutes...5 -
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ShadowMole25✭✭✭Eh, there are a bunch of trash sets in ESO. Trying to decide which is the most underused is difficult, because most likely a lot of the sets posted here are actually not used by anyone at all.
If I had to pick one, I'd say 5 piece Night's silence: Why waste a 5-piece bonus when you can just get that as a Vampire?
Night's Silence
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Ignore the Movement Speed penalty of Sneak.
My nightblade is a werewolf and uses this set.Wanders-Many-Rivers: EP Argonian Nightblade Stamina DPS
Heals-In-Rivers: EP Argonian Templar Magicka Healer
Roams-Many-Rivers EP Argonian Nightblade Magicka Healer1 -
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✭Duneripper's Scales, because Fortified Brass is serving the same niche and is just MUCH better, and it's a crafted set too.
Duneripper's Scales:
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(4 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(5 items) While blocking, increase Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 4300
Fortified Brass:
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 2975 Physical Resistance
(4 items) Adds 2975 Spell Resistance.
(5 items) Adds 5170 Physical Resistance and 5170 Spell Resistance.5 -
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✭my vote for the most not totally garbage set that i've collected - but - i have never equipped:
Vampire Cloak Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(5 items) Gain Minor Protection at all times, reducing your damage taken by 8%.
you mitigate 8% of all incoming damage all the time - how can this not be great
This is my favourite set for deconstruction.1 -
Soriana✭✭✭✭✭Back in the day, when I had absolutely no freakin idea what I was doing in this game, how to do it, and why you shouldn't do different things you shouldn't do...I made a medium armor regen set for my tank with the centerpiece being Oblivion's Foe (not the full 5 pc cuz that was just stupid). No one told me I wasn't supposed to use it...yet I got my first nDSA clear wearing it.
Go figure!2 -
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✭✭If monster sets count as well, I'll go for tremor scale.
The most stupid tank monster one could imagine.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »my vote for the most not totally garbage set that i've collected - but - i have never equipped:
Vampire Cloak Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(5 items) Gain Minor Protection at all times, reducing your damage taken by 8%.
you mitigate 8% of all incoming damage all the time - how can this not be great
This is my favourite set for deconstruction.
hahahahahahahaha...oh my goodness - I've passed over these set pieces sooooo many times when clearing bank inventory and deconstructing...
I keep thinking to myself - there has got to be some kind of build this will work on...
plus, it kind of sounds cool: vampire cloak...
no doubt, if I'm still even playing - come 2019 I'll still be wondering if there's a way to use it (other than for mats)... Edited by geonsocal on September 5, 2018 12:37AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭Adept rider lmao
(2 items) Adds 2975 Spell Resistance
(3 items) Adds 2975 Physical Resistance
(4 items) Adds 129 Max Health
(5 items) While mounted, you gain Major Evasion, increasing your dodge chance by 15%. Dismounting spawns a dust cloud at your position for 12 seconds that deals 1436 Physical Damage every 1 second to enemies who stand inside it. You and group members inside the dust cloud gain Major Evasion. The dust cloud can be created once every 12 seconds.
I was going to say this, but you beat me to it.I consider the 5th bonus of this set trash:
Kagrenac's Hope:
Current:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) Decrease time to resurrect an ally by 25%. When you successfully resurrect an ally, you restore 1720 Magicka.
(5 items) Adds 222 Spell Damage
No one cares about the time to resurrect an ally.
ZOS can change Kagrenac's Hope 4th and 5th bonuses to the following and by doing so a new magicka sustain set with fine damage will be born:
New:
Kagrenac's Hope(craftable, 8 traits):
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your magicka recovery by 350 for 10 seconds.
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your spell damage by 400 for 10 seconds.
Do you PVP? I use Kags on my Templar at the moment. Combined with the Cyrodiil rez passives and the Templar’s rez passives, you get people up SUPER fast. It can make the difference between your group/zerg wiping and turning the tide.
^^^ That.
With all those passives cranking away, the rez-plar hits that issue where if you don’t stand up immediately upon getting the prompt then the next res fails.
During mid year I put kags, fort brass and chudan on my pve healer. That, plus light armor shield and the siege shield morph plus reviving barrier and many people could not stand back up fast enough.Xbox NA0 -
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✭Androconium wrote: »my vote for the most not totally garbage set that i've collected - but - i have never equipped:
Vampire Cloak Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(5 items) Gain Minor Protection at all times, reducing your damage taken by 8%.
you mitigate 8% of all incoming damage all the time - how can this not be great
This is my favourite set for deconstruction.
hahahahahahahaha...oh my goodness - I've passed over these set pieces sooooo many times when clearing bank inventory and deconstructing...
I keep thinking to myself - there has got to be some kind of build this will work on...
plus, it kind of sounds cool: vampire cloak...
no doubt, if I'm still even playing - come 2019 I'll still be wondering if there's a way to use it (other than for mats)...
I'm using it on my magplar tank. Templars have no HP scaling self heals, so the spell damage isn't wasted. And despite what people say, 8% reduced damage taken is the same as 8% more HP AND 8% more healing taken. In that sense the 5p bonus is better than that of Warrior-Poet (10% more HP). Though since Summerset one can get this buff pretty much for free with Temporal Guard (made that setup prior to that), so I guess Akaviri Dragonguard or Black Rose might be better options now if I shift more points from max. mag to max. HP.3 -
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✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »
Way of Air + Senche + Tactitian and Exploiter passves… you've never PvPed if you've never died to this. Air + Sentry and you can get close enough to see enemies but they cannot yet see you. Amazing anti-ambush combo set to guard breaches, siege, etc.
Undaunted Unweaver + Queen's Elegance + (psijiic skill) Elemental Weapon = light attacks you do not want to get hit with... if you ever die to a machine gun of ice staff light attacks and wonder how in hell?
Stendarr's set: "(5 items) When you heal a friendly target, you have a 50% chance to remove 5 negative effects from them. This can happen no more than once every 30 seconds." Unquestionably useful in pvp
Galerion's I've literally never seen used but always imagined it being used with some sort of weird pair of casters, the other wearing Destructive Mage. Is the proc of Galerion's a little AoE?
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✭✭✭✭DarkJester1 wrote: »You're all wrong. It's Sithis set.
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you use Blade of Woe, you gain Major Berserk for 20 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%.
Yes, this is without any doubt the most ridiculous set.
If you stay in sneak your blade one shots every target anyway.
If you are getting caught your damage increase is useless against all guards.
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Grandesdar✭✭✭Are we not going to talk about Ice Furnace?
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
(3 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) When you deal direct damage with a Frost Damage ability, you have a 50% chance to deal an additional 1046 Flame Damage to all enemies within 8 meters around the initial target. This effect can occur once every 1 second.
Who is this set even made for?
Having a frost tank running frost staff on back bar, I thought to myself "finally a frost set for frost staff users!" when I first saw the set, then I quickly realized it was simply a useless set. I don't see any reason for anyone to use this.Main: The Charismatic StamDK DD
Side: A Handsome Warden Healer
Side: (upcoming) Stam Necro DD
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✭Shalidor’s Curse. I hear if you craft this set the only thing remaining in your craft bag will be stacks of cheese.3 -
Undefwun✭✭✭✭✭I would argue it is the crafted set ashen grip.
2) max hp
3) weapon damage
4) weapon crit
5) on direct melee damage 10% chance to do AoE come in front of you dealing 1544 fire damage. Can occur once every 4 seconds.
Not very viable for any build, doesn’t compete with other comparable sets like way of fire or red mountain.
What do you think is the most underused set in ESO?
To be honest I am running it as part of my stam DK's first vet PvE build. I've never bothered with a stam DPS toon before, and it was actually part of Gilliam's pve dps 'beginner' setup. Hunding's/Ashen/Selene's, ok till I get the proper set up.
The fact I levelled him to 50 via BGs is more of a negative impact than Ashen's Grip, no trap beast, no poison injection (I don't use bows in PvP, I like actually fighting people)...Drank Sinatra Sr - PvP Magblade - DC
Juggathot - PvP Mag Sorc - DC
Jedi Mind Crits - PvP A-Hole Bowblade - DC
Dollar Store Thor - PvP Stamplar - DC
The Bone Sumpremacy - baby Stamcro - DC
Wârden Freeman - PvP Stamden - DC (on hold)
Lauryn Heal - PvE Magplar DPS - DC
Lil Orc Chop - PvP Stam Sorc - EP
Hamuel L Jackson - PvE DPS & PvP Stam DK - EP
Chandler Bling - PvP Magden - EP
Mahalia Lightborn - exiled crafting toon - cos you know, she's AD0 -
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✭Unused yes, but new char (new to game) in Death's Wind & Armor of the Trainee is a very SAFE char
Back before the world became a faceroll, Death's Wind set saved my beta chars lil' butt many, many times.
Just sayin'.
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msetten✭✭✭✭✭Eh, there are a bunch of trash sets in ESO. Trying to decide which is the most underused is difficult, because most likely a lot of the sets posted here are actually not used by anyone at all.
If I had to pick one, I'd say 5 piece Night's silence: Why waste a 5-piece bonus when you can just get that as a Vampire?
Night's Silence
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Ignore the Movement Speed penalty of Sneak.
I use this on a Crafter that I’m still leveling and that doesn’t have maxed out the Vampire Skill line yet. So it is a viable set in leveling conditions.
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StamWhipCultist✭✭✭✭✭DarkJester1 wrote: »You're all wrong. It's Sithis set.
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you use Blade of Woe, you gain Major Berserk for 20 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%.
Yes, this is without any doubt the most ridiculous set.
If you stay in sneak your blade one shots every target anyway.
If you are getting caught your damage increase is useless against all guards.
This set is useful in IC. You oneshot some mob and then get huge damage buff to use against players in there.1 -
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✭✭✭Back in the day, when I had absolutely no freakin idea what I was doing in this game, how to do it, and why you shouldn't do different things you shouldn't do...I made a medium armor regen set for my tank with the centerpiece being Oblivion's Foe (not the full 5 pc cuz that was just stupid). No one told me I wasn't supposed to use it...yet I got my first nDSA clear wearing it.
Go figure!
Not to *** on your achievements, but it's more than doable to clear nDSA using only random white trash pieces.0 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭Oblivion's Foe
(8 traits)
(2 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(5 items) Increases the damage of your Soul Trap abilities by 100%.PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq0
