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Which features from other games would be good in ESO?
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✭Global auction anyone can use.
Daily fishing quests.
Housing where you can own a piece of land and build your own house with walls, floors, windows, doors, ect.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Fiedelstrich wrote: »Sadly some changes were not for the better. The Weapon variety in Morrowind is far superior, no spellcrafting in Skyrim and less Armor pieces with each main Title - just to name a few.
I see where you are coming from and agree that The Elder Scrolls Online should still feel like an Elder Scrolls game in the end. I don't want every mechanic from Souls/Borne be implemented here, just some adjustments to light and heavy attacks in terms of moveset and weight. In my opinion there should be more than 'right swing' and 'left swing'. Giving weapons an identity outside of skills is nothing I would consider bad or anti-TES. Dark Souls hits the nail when it comes to weapon weight - swinging a 1h sword looks and feels like swinging a 1h sword, swinging Greatsword looks and feels like swinging a Greatsword. "It just works" our lord and savior Godd Howard would say! Did you light attack with a Greatsword in this game? Not really fun to do and watch unfold - if you ask me. A lot of people also didn't look at The Elder Scrolls and said "Y'know I wish this franchise played more like an MMORPG with Skills, PvP and Trials" and here we are! Was it a bad decision? For some yes - we're still hated for "letting this game, which is not even TES stay alive" and "prevent the development of TES 6". We both probably love this game and disagree with those claims.
Eh Spellcrafting wasn't a huge loss for me. Classic ES Spells skill lines like Alteration, illusion, Conjuration are still up for debate and testing. Would be nice to see.
Spears would be nice, as would Crossbows and using both 1h & Spells.
Armor pieces having been split to a reasonable amount in ESO.
Morrowind Split it too much, Skyrim reduced it too much. ESO has just the right amount.
As to Dark Souls, No. It's not that I think it's impossible. It's that I don't think it would be enjoyable. I have imagined it, if Skyrim or ESO played like Dark Souls I would be irritated with the exaggerated and slow combat. Especially if I was playing in First person
Sorry I know everyone has their preferences but I don't think they hit the nail on the head. I don't like the feeling of the weight in combat in Dark Souls at all.
in ESO, Skills has greatly increased the variety of what a player can do in a fight. imo combat is way more exciting in ESO than in Skyrim.
Light & heavy attacks help but if that is what players had to mainly rely on then gameplay would get stale and old really fast, and if they changed the animations to be exaggerated and slow like Dark Souls alot of people, including myself, would be unhappy.
While this is Elder Scrolls its still an MMO.
This isn't "Skyrim Online", never was. Its an MMO that takes place in Elder Scrolls, that being said they take what they can from the single player titles without letting the player become a God.
I think ESO maintains a healthy balance between MMO and Elder Scroll mechanics.
Also imo, the Dungeons and Trials are some of the best content of the game in terms of gameplay and challenge.Edited by Iccotak on September 4, 2018 3:41PM0 -
Azuramoonstar✭✭✭✭Global auction house.
no.........
on a lighter note
ff11/ff14s direct chat on console/ps4
pressing enter to type is a bit irritating. I'm used to direct chatting. a ps2 mmo could do it why not eso? Edited by Azuramoonstar on September 4, 2018 3:45PMLong time mmo player: 2004-[current year]
Long time Elder scrolls player: Xbox launch morrowind.
Follower of the dawn and dusk, keeper of the moon and star.0 -
Azuramoonstar✭✭✭✭As per the title and please no mention of flying mounts.
For example Guild Wars 1 had a neat feature where you could draw on the minimap to plan tactics with your group. This would work really well in difficult dungeons and Cyrodiil.
I would like to see a companion system added similar to SWTOR or Final Fantasy 11. Those always bring more depth to the characters and make solo play more interesting.
It would also enable the developers to make the landscape content more difficult because newer players could use companions to help them.
ff11 only did that because the community pretty much shrank to 1 server from the original 24.Long time mmo player: 2004-[current year]
Long time Elder scrolls player: Xbox launch morrowind.
Follower of the dawn and dusk, keeper of the moon and star.0 -
Dithieon✭✭✭✭The ability to put as many 'action bars' on the UI as needed,including being able to put mounts on the bar so we can change on the fly."There is a beast in every man and it stirs when you put a sword in his hand" - Ser Jorah Mormont
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✭✭✭✭✭Things from other Elder Scrolls Games that might be nice in Online:- Revamp vampirism. Contractable from any and all vampires/bloodfiends in the game, and more pertinent consequences like being wanted by the guards at stage four.
- More classes and/or classlessness. Back in the day, you could pick a class template, but really your character was freeform. This, unfortunately, is not likely to happen given the game chooses to combine PvE and PvP.
- More schools of magic. We have restoration staves and destruction staves. What about illusion staves, alteration staves, and conjuration staves?
- More weapon types. Previous games have had polearms, unarmed combat, one handed, and one handed plus spell styles. Why not in this game?
- Attributes. Meaningful attributes like personality and agility were removed in Skyrim, dumbing down traditional RPG elements. Bringing this back would require significant overhaul, however, and is not likely to happen.
- More non-combat skills. Remember athletics and how it impacted your running speed? Or acrobatics impacting jump height and fall damage? Yeah, I miss those.
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✭✭✭✭✭Skyrims mannekins to store and display my armour sets.
While I am at it how about some of the other features from Homestead:
Alchemy garden
Household Bard
Weapon Displays
Spouse and child
This person gets it. Take more form the Elder Scrolls series, make it stand out as an MMO with its own identity.
Not stuff with completely different aesthetics and purpose in gameplay.
None of the Elder Scroll games play like Dark Souls, why would you make the MMO version of Elder Scrolls play like a completely different franchise?
Make improvements and take lessons from Elder Scrolls.
Ehh, Elder Scrolls combat was always kinda subpar to be honest. Sometimes even horrible... Morrowind is one of my favorite games ever, but it's combat is just bad even for its time. Skyrim is slightly better in terms of combat, but it's basically a button masher with no strategy involved. It's not even realistic, especially sword and shield animations. It's just very bland and uninspired.
Yeah, combat is not the main focus of these games, but I still wish it would be more fun to play.Edited by LadyNalcarya on September 4, 2018 4:27PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Skyrims mannekins to store and display my armour sets.
While I am at it how about some of the other features from Homestead:
Alchemy garden
Household Bard
Weapon Displays
Spouse and child
This person gets it. Take more form the Elder Scrolls series, make it stand out as an MMO with its own identity.
Not stuff with completely different aesthetics and purpose in gameplay.
None of the Elder Scroll games play like Dark Souls, why would you make the MMO version of Elder Scrolls play like a completely different franchise?
Make improvements and take lessons from Elder Scrolls.
Ehh, Elder Scrolls combat was always kinda subpar to be honest. Sometimes even horrible... Morrowind is one of my favorite games ever, but it's combat is just bad even for its time. Skyrim is slightly better in terms of combat, but it's basically a button masher with no strategy involved. It's not even realistic, especially sword and shield animations. It's just very bland and uninspired.
Yeah, combat is not the main focus of these games, but I still wish it would be more fun to play.
I'd agree. Even though combat doesn't seem to be their main focus it needs to be IMO. The majority of things we do in MMO is fight things and if it's not entertaining people will look elsewhere. You can have all the best stories in the world but if the combat is bland it gets boring pretty quick.Add on that thsi is a MMO and they want to retain their players for years versus a few months, I'd say its a critical portion of the game.1 -
MjolnirVilkas✭✭✭✭More blood and gore. And I don't say this because I'm a pshyco but it adds a certain element of realism to it. Think Witcher series, Dragon Age: Origins, even Skyrim. Those who don't like it could just turn it off (I think Skyrim had such a feature).Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark
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Iccotak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Skyrims mannekins to store and display my armour sets.
While I am at it how about some of the other features from Homestead:
Alchemy garden
Household Bard
Weapon Displays
Spouse and child
This person gets it. Take more form the Elder Scrolls series, make it stand out as an MMO with its own identity.
Not stuff with completely different aesthetics and purpose in gameplay.
None of the Elder Scroll games play like Dark Souls, why would you make the MMO version of Elder Scrolls play like a completely different franchise?
Make improvements and take lessons from Elder Scrolls.
Ehh, Elder Scrolls combat was always kinda subpar to be honest. Sometimes even horrible... Morrowind is one of my favorite games ever, but it's combat is just bad even for its time. Skyrim is slightly better in terms of combat, but it's basically a button masher with no strategy involved. It's not even realistic, especially sword and shield animations. It's just very bland and uninspired.
Yeah, combat is not the main focus of these games, but I still wish it would be more fun to play.
This is why I think ESO is a step up in combat of Skyrim
When it comes to end game content strategy is definitely an element of gameplay.
And Button mashing is not a winning strategy.
You have to be aware of the build and the skills you have active, and you can't pause to eat 100 cheese wheels.
Way more fast paced and intense.
In comparison to the MMOs we have I think ESO has one of the best combat systems0 -
boombazookajd✭✭✭✭✭When in a group and everyone is looking at the map, make a way to mark a location so that everyone can see it at the same time. Describing things that don't exist on someone else's map and trying to coordinate would be so easy with a single pin drop or echo blip...
you mean like shift + left click?
this doesn't exist on console, so for us at least, yes a marker other than shards, "look for crown" (forcing crown to run to said location, or liquid lightning would be fantastic.
IN ADDITION TO A FRIGGIN SEARCH FUNCTION IN GUILD TRADERS!
Seriously, it's 2018. We only just now got the ability to quickly jump zoom levels in the map rather than holding a trigger down (especially painful in Cyrodil). How do we not have a friggin guild trader search function?!Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Scrubs:
Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter
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Azuramoonstar✭✭✭✭MjolnirVilkas wrote: »More blood and gore. And I don't say this because I'm a pshyco but it adds a certain element of realism to it. Think Witcher series, Dragon Age: Origins, even Skyrim. Those who don't like it could just turn it off (I think Skyrim had such a feature).
shoulda seen the shi fest after the dark botherhood dlc was added.... (as in too much gore) and there is a toggle.Long time mmo player: 2004-[current year]
Long time Elder scrolls player: Xbox launch morrowind.
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✭✭✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Skyrims mannekins to store and display my armour sets.
While I am at it how about some of the other features from Homestead:
Alchemy garden
Household Bard
Weapon Displays
Spouse and child
This person gets it. Take more form the Elder Scrolls series, make it stand out as an MMO with its own identity.
Not stuff with completely different aesthetics and purpose in gameplay.
None of the Elder Scroll games play like Dark Souls, why would you make the MMO version of Elder Scrolls play like a completely different franchise?
Make improvements and take lessons from Elder Scrolls.
Ehh, Elder Scrolls combat was always kinda subpar to be honest. Sometimes even horrible... Morrowind is one of my favorite games ever, but it's combat is just bad even for its time. Skyrim is slightly better in terms of combat, but it's basically a button masher with no strategy involved. It's not even realistic, especially sword and shield animations. It's just very bland and uninspired.
Yeah, combat is not the main focus of these games, but I still wish it would be more fun to play.
This is why I think ESO is a step up in combat of Skyrim
When it comes to end game content strategy is definitely an element of gameplay.
And Button mashing is not a winning strategy.
You have to be aware of the build and the skills you have active, and you can't pause to eat 100 cheese wheels.
Way more fast paced and intense.
In comparison to the MMOs we have I think ESO has one of the best combat systems
I agree that it's better than Skyrim (it doesnt mean much, Skyrim combat is quite bland), but I think it could be improved.
I know that endgame requires tactics, I cleared all hardmodes except for vCR. But the majority of content doesnt, and high-end content also has it's issues. For example, all stamina builds and all magicka builds are very similar, and a lot animations are too stiff or too wonky.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭✭✭✭✭Better naming conventions:
Instead of “Sword of the Arch-Mage” it should be “Arch-Mage Sword”
Cannibalism:
A channel spell that restores Bosmer like how werewolves do it. I would give away our fall damage reduction for a devour passive. And it should be a crime to be witnessed.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »"Mark" and "Recall" spells from morrowind
Yes, and that's been in Ultima Online for two decades.
The costume system from Lord of the Rings Online where you just drop garments you find or acquire into outfit slots set a standard in this area. The current system is simply a gold drain and another way to extend the content through the achievement/motif grinding treadmill. There's a solid revenue stream in LotRO system too. You pay for costume slots.
The justice system from THIS GAME that you designed but failed to release would remove the most glaring, repugnant blight that infects every town in this digital world every damned day. Mow down nuns in the street in single player GTA all you want; doesn't matter. But when acts of mindless murder occur ad nauseam with other people present you diminish the value of your IP and the blithe tolerance of it by players diminishes them as well.There is not an atom of multiplayer gaming in it.
And, yes, as others have noted, the character models are dated but that's beyond any easy or even feasible remedy. But you can start with the hair. Countless games have moved beyond the dated articulated mesh for hair that's little more than a helmet. Where it reaches the level of the ludicrous is that barbarian windswept crown store hairstyle that some people actually use not knowing quite how absurd it looks.
This game is so exquisitely beautiful in so, so many ways. It makes hair helmets stand out even more, alas.
Another feature from Ultima Online that would be grand is NO CASTING SPELLS IN TOWN. This should include summoning sorc pets and those damned annoying warden bears. They are not needed in town plus there's the practical matter of difficulty in selecting the banker or turning in writs amidst clusters of unnecessary pets.
I mean it when I say I don't like my own negative tone in much of this post. I adore this game world. And I can certainly live with helmet hair, a so-so costume system, characters with fixed expressions on their faces and annoying leaping fools firing off spells in banks and shoving their hideous sorc pets and obese warden bears in my face.
But I have to leave the game periodically because I cannot abide profligate mindless murder, simulated though it may be, by players who have accepted my dueling invitations in response to their behavior just once in years.0 -
Khaleesi8688✭✭✭✭Better combat animations and effects. We don't have to be able to drop treble clefs on people's heads like aion but something a little more entertaining would be cool.1
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✭✭Guild Wars 2 LFG System, best I have ever seen in a mmo https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Looking_For_Group
One/Global Auction House/market. Guild traders are probably one of the worse concepts I have ever seen added to a game.
No more levels, removal of champion points..similar to Gw2. After not playing GW2 for almost 2 years I could log in right now and still have best in slot/top level.
Edited by Wolfpaw on September 4, 2018 8:02PM0 -
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✭As per the title and please no mention of flying mounts.
Why not? I want flying mounts.
Guild Wars 2 from what I see has done a great job with them gliding. So Gliding mounts? 
For example Guild Wars 1 had a neat feature where you could draw on the minimap to plan tactics with your group. This would work really well in difficult dungeons and Cyrodiil.
Another Guild Wars 2 feature I like what I saw was the ability to swim underwater and have underwater combat.
I will not mention Flying mounts but how about Ariel Combat as well?
Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"1 -
Valabrog✭✭✭MjolnirVilkas wrote: »More blood and gore. And I don't say this because I'm a pshyco but it adds a certain element of realism to it. Think Witcher series, Dragon Age: Origins, even Skyrim. Those who don't like it could just turn it off (I think Skyrim had such a feature).
Oh I agree..ESO lore is tend to be darker than lotro or wow, but in practice all we see is pegi10+ visuals. Blade of Woe added so much flavor and a hope for more gore. Sadly its not moving forward..2 -
Thalmor-Nordmaster✭✭✭✭✭Currently with pledges when we kill a boss we get the head to put on the wall. I would like to see that extended to Cyrodiil. When we kill an Emperor we get their head to put on our wall.0 -
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✭As per the title and please no mention of flying mounts.
For example Guild Wars 1 had a neat feature where you could draw on the minimap to plan tactics with your group. This would work really well in difficult dungeons and Cyrodiil.
diablo 3s paragon system in place of the cp system that way no jump points no useless point allocation and much easier to get stats across the board settled in0 -
Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭Actual existing support would be pretty op if you ask me.Here, have a chill pill 💊!0 -
DorianDragonRaze✭✭✭✭Skyrims mannekins to store and display my armour sets.
While I am at it how about some of the other features from Homestead:
Alchemy garden
Household Bard
Weapon Displays
Spouse and child
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Missing outfit displays A LOT!
I can craft nearly anything but can display nothing! No racks, no mannequins... Very unfortunate!
Edited by DorianDragonRaze on September 4, 2018 9:45PMI used to be an adventurer like you, then I got the ESO on my hard drive...0 -
Euant✭✭✭In game manually operated LFG interface (not a queue that puts you with rando people) like what WoW has. Post specific groups, review people (type of gear worn) before you invite them, auto invite if desired.0
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Lord_Wrath✭✭✭✭✭Some influence from Diablo I thought would be cool is to have random wandering bosses, especially in Cyrodill.1300+ CP | Lørd Wrath | - Sorcerer - Palatine - Grand Master Crafter - 30000 Achievement Points
Launch Player - PC - NA - EP2
