Which features from other games would be good in ESO?

Turelus

Oh, now I know!

SWTOR's group dialogue for questing. This was one of the best MMO features I've ever seen as I felt the entire time I was playing WITH my friends not just alongside them.

Wollust

Working servers

Iccotak

I prefer ESO combat WAY more to BDO or Neverwinter. Seriously ESO combat is way better.

Also the combat in ESO feels more in line with an Elder Scrolls title. Neverwinter and BDO feel like anime, end of story.

Versispellis wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Versispellis wrote: »

@Fiedelstrich I agree entirely. I love Soulsborne games and I think they've ruined combat in other games for me. This game feels like swinging a pool noodle at something in the next county. It just feels bad and floaty.

@LadyNalcarya I find myself performing dramatic leaps off of ledges at enemies to. . . no real benefit in this game, but it's just the instinct. lol

Same!
And I agree, Souls combat is much more fluid and impactful. It's also worth noting that it's very "play as you want", much more so than ESO. I mean, there's not many games that allow you to dual wield shields or kill all bosses at level 1.

At level 1, naked, with nothing but a torch. I saw some of that Bloodborne playthrough. You could never do something like that in ESO. lol It irritates me sometimes how reliant this game is on gear, and that its concept of escalating difficulty revolves around higher numbers and throwing more stuff on the screen. There's nothing visceral about it.

Have you played an Elder Scrolls title?

What ESO should do is implement the an option for a grid inventory like the add-on, it hasn't been updated since April.
Learn from the add-ons,
add a search bar,
separate things by; light, medium, heavy, jewelry, etc.
Make an option for grid view as opposed to scroll down

Now a feature from other games I would like to see would be Naval Ship combat, that would add a whole new level to the Alliance War.
Imagine that you get to customize your own ship.
Imagine if your guild gets their own ship.
Imagine two fleets coming to blows, boarding parties, sinking enemy ships,

abigfishy

Skyrims mannekins to store and display my armour sets.

While I am at it how about some of the other features from Homestead:

Alchemy garden
Household Bard
Weapon Displays
Spouse and child

Iccotak

abigfishy wrote: »

Skyrims mannekins to store and display my armour sets.

While I am at it how about some of the other features from Homestead:

Alchemy garden
Household Bard
Weapon Displays
Spouse and child

This person gets it. Take more form the Elder Scrolls series, make it stand out as an MMO with its own identity.
Not stuff with completely different aesthetics and purpose in gameplay.
None of the Elder Scroll games play like Dark Souls, why would you make the MMO version of Elder Scrolls play like a completely different franchise?
Make improvements and take lessons from Elder Scrolls.

nobleboivin

Gw2 has this feature in which recipes are account bound meaning I can craft the same item on any character so long as they level up the skill line, I would love it if ESO implemented that then I can put a motif on any toon

I would also love it if Achievements were account bound and not character bound then it would be easier to unlock achieves like the one for killing a number of creatures or collecting trophies

Iccotak

nobleboivin wrote: »

Gw2 has this feature in which recipes are account bound meaning I can craft the same item on any character so long as they level up the skill line, I would love it if ESO implemented that then I can put a motif on any toon

That's the point of the Outfit system.

DanteYoda

Guildhalls as per GW1..

Better open world loot system.

Fiedelstrich

Iccotak wrote: »

This person gets it. Take more form the Elder Scrolls series, make it stand out as an MMO with its own identity.
Not stuff with completely different aesthetics and purpose in gameplay.
None of the Elder Scroll games play like Dark Souls, why would you make the MMO version of Elder Scrolls play like a completely different franchise?
Make improvements and take lessons from Elder Scrolls.

The combat of The Elder Scrolls evolved over time - Arena and Daggerfall plays not like Morrowind which does not play like Oblivion or Skyrim. Why should ESO not go a step further and let itself inspire by one fantastic game like Dark Souls? It should of course not be a hard copy - I just would prefer light and heavy attacks to feel a >bit< more like swinging a weapon in a Souls/Borne game. Like @Versispellis said, swinging a weapon currently "feels like swinging a pool noodle at something in the next county. It just feels bad and floaty". Why should it stay that way?

A lot of new players don't like the combat because they swing their weapons more than using skills. Make light and heavy attacks more fun and more people will stay! Even thou spamming light and heavy attacks is considered as playing the game wrong - changing them into something different by giving them a Souls/Bourne-ish touch may open a new Playstyle which makes the game more diverse and in turn even more fun to play!

Valabrog

1. Character models and combat from For Honor.
2. Graphics from Witcher 3.
3. Storytelling from SWTOR.
4. Lore of any Star Wars of Warhammer 40k game - in compare to those giants TES lore is a tiny fantasy pocket. Hundreds of novels, stories, rulebooks, movies and comics created these two titans. I wish TES would have same dedication of writers as the other two have, but for now we have how many novels? 2 or 3..

ESO has amazing, breathing world, PVP (both BG and Cyrodiil) and interesting/challenging economic. Everything else is very mediocre..Storytelling I would find under the average.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the main thing why Im here - constant content updates which keep the player base healthy and mean that we will get more shiny content in the future (healthy populatio = more money = more content). If Swtor would have the same situation, i would leave ESO in a second

Rak_am

woodap wrote: »

4k, HDR, and some video options that work on my PS4.

+1

neverwalk

disenchanting=skyrim

Thalmor-Nordmaster

reverse pickpocketing. Even on the bosses.

Iccotak

Fiedelstrich wrote: »

A lot of new players don't like the combat because they swing their weapons more than using skills. Make light and heavy attacks more fun and more people will stay! Even though spamming light and heavy attacks is considered as playing the game wrong

^

Skyrim is a natural evolution from Oblivion. It takes a look at what Oblivion does wrong and does it better in the next game.
Skyrim allows dual wielding of various weapons and spells was a natural improvement from the limited weapon system in Oblivion and Morrowind.
ESO adds dodge rolling to give players more maneuverability and adds scenarios where players have to be aware of their environment and enemies actions in case they have to quickly get out of the way.
They don't look at other games and say "We should do that" they look at their game and say "what could we do better, what could we add that we have wanted to but couldn't in the past"
ESO's crafting system is a clear evolution from Skyrim's, now allowing players to deconstruct items
I can look at the previous Elder Scroll games and say "Yes that is Elder Scrolls"
I definitely don't look at Elder Scrolls and say, "Y'know I wish this franchise played more like Dark Souls"
If I want Dark Souls than I'll play Dark Souls or another japanese made fantasy game like Monster Hunter and/or Dragon's Dogma.

Fiedelstrich wrote: »

Why should ESO not go a step further and let itself inspire by one fantastic game like Dark Souls? It should of course not be a hard copy - I just would prefer light and heavy attacks to feel a >bit< more like swinging a weapon in a Souls/Borne game. Like @Versispellis said, swinging a weapon currently "feels like swinging a pool noodle at something in the next county. It just feels bad and floaty". Why should it stay that way?

Dark Souls is a completely different style of combat and aesthetic. It basically has people swinging anime sized weapons like Monster Hunter.
Imo I feel the weight of weapons in ESO combat. When I am in a fight I feel that fight. There could be ways of creating more fluid combat BUT I don't want to encourage players to just click their mouse.

Valabrog wrote: »

1. Character models and combat from For Honor.
2. Graphics from Witcher 3.
3. Storytelling from SWTOR.
4. Lore of any Star Wars of Warhammer 40k game - in compare to those giants TES lore is a tiny fantasy pocket. Hundreds of novels, stories, rulebooks, movies and comics created these two titans. I wish TES would have same dedication of writers as the other two have, but for now we have how many novels? 2 or 3..

Elder Scrolls is in a very different situation in comparison to Star Wars and Warhammer.
For starters Books and other games have to leave the events of the games vague enough in order let the Players version of events remain cannon. They will never identify the Dragonborn's race and gender because every combination is cannon.
It leaves more up to the player. The Player is the special person that can essentially achieve god status, so it has to leave everything be player determined at the detriment to the story.
Warhammer the player is generally a minor player in large forces. Your choices matter little if at all.
Also which Star Wars? Legends or Disney :P

Valabrog

Iccotak wrote: »

Fiedelstrich wrote: »

A lot of new players don't like the combat because they swing their weapons more than using skills. Make light and heavy attacks more fun and more people will stay! Even though spamming light and heavy attacks is considered as playing the game wrong

^

Skyrim is a natural evolution from Oblivion. It takes a look at what Oblivion does wrong and does it better in the next game.
Skyrim allows dual wielding of various weapons and spells was a natural improvement from the limited weapon system in Oblivion and Morrowind.
ESO adds dodge rolling to give players more maneuverability and adds scenarios where players have to be aware of their environment and enemies actions in case they have to quickly get out of the way.
They don't look at other games and say "We should do that" they look at their game and say "what could we do better, what could we add that we have wanted to but couldn't in the past"
ESO's crafting system is a clear evolution from Skyrim's, now allowing players to deconstruct items
I can look at the previous Elder Scroll games and say "Yes that is Elder Scrolls"
I definitely don't look at Elder Scrolls and say, "Y'know I wish this franchise played more like Dark Souls"
If I want Dark Souls than I'll play Dark Souls or another japanese made fantasy game like Monster Hunter and/or Dragon's Dogma.

Fiedelstrich wrote: »

Why should ESO not go a step further and let itself inspire by one fantastic game like Dark Souls? It should of course not be a hard copy - I just would prefer light and heavy attacks to feel a >bit< more like swinging a weapon in a Souls/Borne game. Like @Versispellis said, swinging a weapon currently "feels like swinging a pool noodle at something in the next county. It just feels bad and floaty". Why should it stay that way?

Dark Souls is a completely different style of combat and aesthetic. It basically has people swinging anime sized weapons like Monster Hunter.
Imo I feel the weight of weapons in ESO combat. When I am in a fight I feel that fight. There could be ways of creating more fluid combat BUT I don't want to encourage players to just click their mouse.

Valabrog wrote: »

1. Character models and combat from For Honor.
2. Graphics from Witcher 3.
3. Storytelling from SWTOR.
4. Lore of any Star Wars of Warhammer 40k game - in compare to those giants TES lore is a tiny fantasy pocket. Hundreds of novels, stories, rulebooks, movies and comics created these two titans. I wish TES would have same dedication of writers as the other two have, but for now we have how many novels? 2 or 3..

Elder Scrolls is in a very different situation in comparison to Star Wars and Warhammer.
For starters Books and other games have to leave the events of the games vague enough in order let the Players version of events remain cannon. They will never identify the Dragonborn's race and gender because every combination is cannon.
It leaves more up to the player. The Player is the special person that can essentially achieve god status, so it has to leave everything be player determined at the detriment to the story.
Warhammer the player is generally a minor player in large forces. Your choices matter little if at all.
Also which Star Wars? Legends or Disney :P

Well, in this case novels could be about periods other than the games is going on - both sw and 40k have plenty of such fiction

Oh, lets not speak about Disney and their Evil Queen....I said goodbye to star wars as a franchise and left it for good. I mentioned those two giants more as an example how big and expanded lore could be I always weep when people claim TES having the richest lore on earth..

Iccotak

Valabrog wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

Fiedelstrich wrote: »

A lot of new players don't like the combat because they swing their weapons more than using skills. Make light and heavy attacks more fun and more people will stay! Even though spamming light and heavy attacks is considered as playing the game wrong

^

Skyrim is a natural evolution from Oblivion. It takes a look at what Oblivion does wrong and does it better in the next game.
Skyrim allows dual wielding of various weapons and spells was a natural improvement from the limited weapon system in Oblivion and Morrowind.
ESO adds dodge rolling to give players more maneuverability and adds scenarios where players have to be aware of their environment and enemies actions in case they have to quickly get out of the way.
They don't look at other games and say "We should do that" they look at their game and say "what could we do better, what could we add that we have wanted to but couldn't in the past"
ESO's crafting system is a clear evolution from Skyrim's, now allowing players to deconstruct items
I can look at the previous Elder Scroll games and say "Yes that is Elder Scrolls"
I definitely don't look at Elder Scrolls and say, "Y'know I wish this franchise played more like Dark Souls"
If I want Dark Souls than I'll play Dark Souls or another japanese made fantasy game like Monster Hunter and/or Dragon's Dogma.

Fiedelstrich wrote: »

Why should ESO not go a step further and let itself inspire by one fantastic game like Dark Souls? It should of course not be a hard copy - I just would prefer light and heavy attacks to feel a >bit< more like swinging a weapon in a Souls/Borne game. Like @Versispellis said, swinging a weapon currently "feels like swinging a pool noodle at something in the next county. It just feels bad and floaty". Why should it stay that way?

Dark Souls is a completely different style of combat and aesthetic. It basically has people swinging anime sized weapons like Monster Hunter.
Imo I feel the weight of weapons in ESO combat. When I am in a fight I feel that fight. There could be ways of creating more fluid combat BUT I don't want to encourage players to just click their mouse.

Valabrog wrote: »

1. Character models and combat from For Honor.
2. Graphics from Witcher 3.
3. Storytelling from SWTOR.
4. Lore of any Star Wars of Warhammer 40k game - in compare to those giants TES lore is a tiny fantasy pocket. Hundreds of novels, stories, rulebooks, movies and comics created these two titans. I wish TES would have same dedication of writers as the other two have, but for now we have how many novels? 2 or 3..

Elder Scrolls is in a very different situation in comparison to Star Wars and Warhammer.
For starters Books and other games have to leave the events of the games vague enough in order let the Players version of events remain cannon. They will never identify the Dragonborn's race and gender because every combination is cannon.
It leaves more up to the player. The Player is the special person that can essentially achieve god status, so it has to leave everything be player determined at the detriment to the story.
Warhammer the player is generally a minor player in large forces. Your choices matter little if at all.
Also which Star Wars? Legends or Disney :P

Well, in this case novels could be about periods other than the games is going on - both sw and 40k have plenty of such fiction

Oh, lets not speak about Disney and their Evil Queen....I said goodbye to star wars as a franchise and left it for good. I mentioned those two giants more as an example how big and expanded lore could be I always weep when people claim TES having the richest lore on earth..

I like Elder Scrolls lore plenty but lets face it. Elder Scrolls, Fantasy side of Warhammer, and especially WoW is highly derivative of Tolkien's work. They're not really that original or unique.
ES was essentially a D&D setting, which was a game that started as an avenue for people to play in Tolkien's world.
Warhammer was basically D&D but applied to armies

I mean the Lizard people in both franchises have cultures reminiscent of Aztec culture, and WoW did the same thing with their Trolls. So original.

craftycarper73

Bar swapping from Tera Online.

Chaining abilities together from Tera Online.

Mojmir

taming and bard skill lines

RoyalPink06

An armoury system where we can assign build presets and swap builds with a single button, including skills and CP. Each character gets their own presets. Make it as an armoury station to place in our houses and make a s*** ton of money, ZOS.

Edit: I am on console so there is no add-on for this. Shouldn’t even need an add-on for this though honestly, it should just have been a feature of the game since day 1.

Revelzdevelz

If not an primary Auction house, a actual search tool. Talk about basic, not sure how this isnt in the game.

All the functions as far as keeps and resource from Warhammer online

Duel Spec saves. Let us save two specs Skills/Morphs, attribute points, gear and CP. Have more saves via crown store.

A CC immunity that actually works. No one should ever be CC'd while killed. DMG should break Stuns, Roots, Fears.

When more then 2 ppl are hiting mobs let the two highest DPSers get the exp.

rootimus

Turelus wrote: »

All of EVE Onlines changes to reduce server loads.
(Okay, maybe not TiDi as that would be awful in an action based game)

+1. Also, Eve's corp management tools, ability to see info on players and guilds, their mail client and API system.

boombazookajd

A search function in the the guild trader

Aesthier

More Buttstab!!!

Linaleah

proper search function for trading.
actual guild houses, not someone's primary house that happens to serve as a guild house.

/puts on a flame suit skills should level up as you level up without having active bar requirement

OneForSorrow

From FFXIV: The ability to save a character appearance.

Fiedelstrich

Iccotak wrote: »

Skyrim is a natural evolution from Oblivion. It takes a look at what Oblivion does wrong and does it better in the next game.
Skyrim allows dual wielding of various weapons and spells was a natural improvement from the limited weapon system in Oblivion and Morrowind.
ESO adds dodge rolling to give players more maneuverability and adds scenarios where players have to be aware of their environment and enemies actions in case they have to quickly get out of the way.
They don't look at other games and say "We should do that" they look at their game and say "what could we do better, what could we add that we have wanted to but couldn't in the past"
ESO's crafting system is a clear evolution from Skyrim's, now allowing players to deconstruct items
I can look at the previous Elder Scroll games and say "Yes that is Elder Scrolls"
I definitely don't look at Elder Scrolls and say, "Y'know I wish this franchise played more like Dark Souls"
If I want Dark Souls than I'll play Dark Souls or another japanese made fantasy game like Monster Hunter and/or Dragon's Dogma.

Sadly some changes were not for the better. The Weapon variety in Morrowind is far superior, no spellcrafting in Skyrim and less Armor pieces with each main Title - just to name a few.

I see where you are coming from and agree that The Elder Scrolls Online should still feel like an Elder Scrolls game in the end. I don't want every mechanic from Souls/Borne be implemented here, just some adjustments to light and heavy attacks in terms of moveset and weight. In my opinion there should be more than 'right swing' and 'left swing'. Giving weapons an identity outside of skills is nothing I would consider bad or anti-TES. Dark Souls hits the nail when it comes to weapon weight - swinging a 1h sword looks and feels like swinging a 1h sword, swinging Greatsword looks and feels like swinging a Greatsword. "It just works" our lord and savior Godd Howard would say! Did you light attack with a Greatsword in this game? Not really fun to do and watch unfold - if you ask me. A lot of people also didn't look at The Elder Scrolls and said "Y'know I wish this franchise played more like an MMORPG with Skills, PvP and Trials" and here we are! Was it a bad decision? For some yes - we're still hated for "letting this game, which is not even TES stay alive" and "prevent the development of TES 6". We both probably love this game and disagree with those claims.

What I want to tell you is - try to imagine: what if..? Maybe when my (and others) ideas wouldn't be just ideas but reality, the combat you thought of being impossible, are the best thing in any TES game to date for ya (:

Iccotak wrote: »

Dark Souls is a completely different style of combat and aesthetic. It basically has people swinging anime sized weapons like Monster Hunter.
Imo I feel the weight of weapons in ESO combat. When I am in a fight I feel that fight. There could be ways of creating more fluid combat BUT I don't want to encourage players to just click their mouse.

Not every weapon in Dark Souls is an "anime sized weapon" - I loved my Broadsword and Claymore. I also wouldn't put Dark Souls and Monster Hunter in one bag - Monster Hunter is... well... a bit more "creative" with their weapons. *cough* Gunlance *cough*.

Like I said above - I'm not happy with the weight and feel. But in the end it all comes down to personal preference (:

Who knows! Maybe ZOS will surprise us with something that makes us both happy - I'm looking forward to that moment.

Till then: let's enjoy TESO like it is for now - because it's an amazing game nonetheless! See ya in Tamriel!

iceman784

Grayfax wrote: »

When in a group and everyone is looking at the map, make a way to mark a location so that everyone can see it at the same time. Describing things that don't exist on someone else's map and trying to coordinate would be so easy with a single pin drop or echo blip...

you mean like shift + left click?

AhPook_Is_Here

Having a bank that alphabetized from A-Z when you first opened it would be a nice feature.

Zardayne

1. Like someone mentioned large world bosses like GW2. Add some tougher mobs that are mobile around the zone.
2. The ability to choose the difficulty of instances where I can make it harder so I can duo with a friend. Games such as City of Heroes and I believe Age of Conan did this.
2. Reactionary melee combat like Daoc where if you parry or block (and you hear it) it opens up other skills with bleeds, more damage, knockdowns, etc. With our limited abilitiy bars this could pose a problem.
3. Battlegrounds from WoW, War, and Daoc. I loved all of these games BGs. ESO's are not even close.
4. a real, non aedric, spear using class like the Warden in Lotro.
5. The player music system from Lotro where people could actual play instruments.
6. EQ2 auction house system where you could buy from the AH with additional charge or go to the sellers house and purchase cheaper. Ultima online also had a cool system where you hired merchants outside of your house. Could give us a reason to go to players houses/rooms.
7. GW2 or Lotro pet controls. Having to heavy attack to choose target is dumb and clunky. I expected way more from a newer MMO. Having a pet control box also enabled a button for additional pet abilities you could control as needed.
8. EQ2 guild search function in game. I really liked be able to look up guilds by type and reading about them , and being able to contact right in game.
9. Collision detection in Warhammer. The ability to form a shield wall of players in PVP when a keeps gates or doors went down was so cool.
10. Better animations, especially in combat. I feel a lot of the abilities are boring, especially the choice of spammables.
11. Speaking of #10 how about a morphable system for all of our skills like Diablo 3 does. Being able to take a skill and make it go from flame to ice or lighting to physical with additional effects would be very cool.
11. Finisher move animations for combat like Age of Conan and Skyrim. Since ESO has pretty much blown off PVP then it's time to add finishing moves to the combat. At least have it where it's turned off in PVP.
11. Minigames like cards, checkers, etc need to be added to taverns. I don't know of any other game that does this but MMOs need to offer more to get us to socialize and give us other non combat gaming options.
12. Make vampire and werewolf world skills be based off of highest stat so we can mix them up between stamina and magica. A werewolf with Warden would act more like a shape shifting druid and a vamp with a warrior would be like a death knight.
13. Weather from Witcher 3. I like the wind effect.
14. Darker, creepier environments. I mean if I'm in some monster infested hellhole limit the light sources and have some truly dark areas that make you think twice about stepping into. Needs more fear effect. I don't know if anyone is familiar with it but there are numerous areas in GW2 where you're in some super dark caves, etc. I mean they have a jumping puzzle cave that was so dark I was throwing torches on my ranger just so I could see ahead of me. Pretty cool stuff.

I've got a ton more just not enough time at the moment to finish the list.

idk

Cadbury wrote: »

Destiny 2's light levels
FFXIV Free Company airships
Neverwinter's combat
Warframe's Dojos
BDO's PvP

Neverwintere combat sucks. Has since day one.