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Welkynar Motif Crown Store
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Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
Edited by Integral1900 on August 30, 2018 9:48PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
Seeing as how this stuff is officially allowed and ZOS customer service will take action (by disciplining people and reimbursing the person who gets ripped off) if a ticket is opened, it's actually quite common now, and it's pretty safe, too.
Since this results in more crown sales to ZOS and also undermines the traditional money-sellers, it's not surprising that they are taking such steps.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
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- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
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- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »The pages cant sell that high, not while it's available via the crown store.
Crown Store 5k = 1m, 6k =1.2m gold with trade at 200 gold per crown. People will just pay for the full book from crown item sellers instead of page by page from farmers.
There is one thing that you forget about. Not everybody trusts a random guy from zone chat enough to give him 1.2m gold...and this is how it is going to be, one of the 2 parties has to trade first. I will collect the pages, already got 30 fragments from clearing +2 several times.
Your problem with this is that ZOS has stated that they will help people who've gotten scammed...on both ends.
Similar to how vampire and ww bites worked when they were worth somethingValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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✭✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
@Integral1900 Please refer to the post I just made.
Y'all don't need faith. You just need screenshotsValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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What are you talking about lolIntegral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
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Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
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What are you talking about lolIntegral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
Well, I know 7 players who used this thing, one got what they wanted, one got sent the wrong thing, one insisted on getting the crown item first and was met with silence and the remains 4 sent the gold and also got nothing... it’s a con artists tea party2 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »
What are you talking about lolIntegral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
Well, I know 7 players who used this thing, one got what they wanted, one got sent the wrong thing, one insisted on getting the crown item first and was met with silence and the remains 4 sent the gold and also got nothing... it’s a con artists tea party
Sounds like your 7 friends don't know how to take screenshots lol
Their fault tbqhValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Shezzarrine✭✭✭✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »
What are you talking about lolIntegral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
Well, I know 7 players who used this thing, one got what they wanted, one got sent the wrong thing, one insisted on getting the crown item first and was met with silence and the remains 4 sent the gold and also got nothing... it’s a con artists tea party
Sounds like your 7 friends don't know how to take screenshots lol
Their fault tbqh
Can you provide the source of your claim that ZoS will help those who were scammed? I've heard the opposite but I have not found any official source so I'm curious.0 -
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✭✭✭Shezzarrine wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »
What are you talking about lolIntegral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
Well, I know 7 players who used this thing, one got what they wanted, one got sent the wrong thing, one insisted on getting the crown item first and was met with silence and the remains 4 sent the gold and also got nothing... it’s a con artists tea party
Sounds like your 7 friends don't know how to take screenshots lol
Their fault tbqh
Can you provide the source of your claim that ZoS will help those who were scammed? I've heard the opposite but I have not found any official source so I'm curious.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/417563/major-update-zos-official-response-on-whether-trading-gold-for-crowns-crown-store-items-is-allowed/p1Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Shezzarrine✭✭✭✭✭Shezzarrine wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »
What are you talking about lolIntegral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »Well never mind, I don’t have the time to grind it and even using sales prices I can’t justify dumping that much cash to buy it... so sod it, on to the next motif
Buy it with gold then.
Won’t work, on pts it’s bind on pickup.... you can’t sell it
Trading gold for Crown Store "gifts" is a common thing now.
Might as well write “please rip me off” on my forehead lmao
Well, I know 7 players who used this thing, one got what they wanted, one got sent the wrong thing, one insisted on getting the crown item first and was met with silence and the remains 4 sent the gold and also got nothing... it’s a con artists tea party
Sounds like your 7 friends don't know how to take screenshots lol
Their fault tbqh
Can you provide the source of your claim that ZoS will help those who were scammed? I've heard the opposite but I have not found any official source so I'm curious.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/417563/major-update-zos-official-response-on-whether-trading-gold-for-crowns-crown-store-items-is-allowed/p1
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✭✭✭There's some things in this game that I will not have, that I refuse to purchase with real money, that I refuse to spend time to grind... That's my story and I'm okay with it.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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FreshlyB8ked✭✭✭✭Does anyone have any knowledge or link they can provide that discusses whether the Welkynar fragments and binding are BOP? I'm sure the motifs will be trade-able....but I'm curious about the parts to make them.
I'm trying to find something official as I've seen different answers about this.
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Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Grow up people. Why does everything need to be easy and cheap to obtain?
If you actually read the complaints, you’d know that no one is asking for cheap and easy trial motifs. We just don’t care to spending thousands of hours doing nothing but grinding for pieces of pages that’s hardcapped on how much we can earn a week and the pieces are BoP even if the randomly decided pages are not. Those pages will of course have a hardcapped prices that will also make the content unappealing to run because it won’t ever be worth the time invested.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Grow up people. Why does everything need to be easy and cheap to obtain?
It doesn't need to be cheap and easy. The problem with this motif is that no matter how you look at it, the crown store is easier, cheaper and faster and has been done on purpose by design. There is no reason for ZOS to make a reasonable grind for anything like this when they can make an astronomical grind and then encourage you to buy it in the store or buy a gift from someone. In this case, the game dropped version essentially doesn't exist unless you want a grind of multiple months potentially to get the motif. It sets a poor precedent and also warps the rate at which in game rewards are obtained in any situation where there is also a crown store equivalent.1 -
md3788✭✭✭Grow up people. Why does everything need to be easy and cheap to obtain?
If you actually read the complaints, you’d know that no one is asking for cheap and easy trial motifs. We just don’t care to spending thousands of hours doing nothing but grinding for pieces of pages that’s hardcapped on how much we can earn a week and the pieces are BoP even if the randomly decided pages are not. Those pages will of course have a hardcapped prices that will also make the content unappealing to run because it won’t ever be worth the time invested.
If you don't care to, then here's a crazy idea: Don't do it. ZOS has given everyone two ways to obtain the motif. Whether it's worth your time, or your actual money, is up to you.vFG1 HM0 -
FreshlyB8ked✭✭✭✭1Grow up people. Why does everything need to be easy and cheap to obtain?
You couldn't state your opinion without the condescending remark telling people to grow up?
Zos used to let the motifs drop inside the game for a while before they introduced them to the crown store. Surely you can see why it rubs people the wrong way when they make a motif more difficult than others to obtain and release them in the crown store on the same day as they are released in the game. For 5000 crowns, nonetheless.3 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Grow up people. Why does everything need to be easy and cheap to obtain?
If you actually read the complaints, you’d know that no one is asking for cheap and easy trial motifs. We just don’t care to spending thousands of hours doing nothing but grinding for pieces of pages that’s hardcapped on how much we can earn a week and the pieces are BoP even if the randomly decided pages are not. Those pages will of course have a hardcapped prices that will also make the content unappealing to run because it won’t ever be worth the time invested.
If you don't care to, then here's a crazy idea: Don't do it. ZOS has given everyone two ways to obtain the motif. Whether it's worth your time, or your actual money, is up to you.
Are you being intentionally obtuse? They specifically designed this system to steer people into the Crown Store instead of doing actual content. What do you expect will happen when this motif (in the pool for Master Writs, btw) sells like hotcakes?
It’s setting a precedent, and we can expect more and more grinds like this because ZOS doesn’t want people playing their game, they just want people to open their wallets.2 -
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✭✭✭FreshlyB8ked wrote: »Does anyone have any knowledge or link they can provide that discusses whether the Welkynar fragments and binding are BOP? I'm sure the motifs will be trade-able....but I'm curious about the parts to make them.
I'm trying to find something official as I've seen different answers about this.
Thanks!
The fragments are NOT BoP. They were already accidentally introduced into live and have since been taken out of the drop pool. One of my guild members sent me 3 of them. I imagine the binding will be BoP, but I have no way to confirm that.Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
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✭People realizing they are getting milked by zos after 3 years and im here like :^)0
