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NA PC Vivec final score August 2018
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LeifErickson✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »Another thread devolves into forum PVP...
You know, we could try a little harder to keep this on topic, or we can continue in this vein and watch another campaign thread get closed by the mods.
Quiet, you!0 -
Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭#InCecilWeTrust{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
AD :: Imported Waffles [37]EP :: Wee ee ee ee ee [16]DC :: Ghostbane's DK [16], Impending Loadscreen [12]PC - NA
AD :: Ghostbane [50], yer ma [43], Sir Humphrey Winterbottom 2.0 [18], robotic baby legs [18]EP :: Wee Mad Arthur [50], avast ye buttcrackz [49], Sir Horace Foghorn [27], Brother Ballbag [24], Scatman John [16]DC :: W T B Waffles [36], Morale Boost [30], W T F Waffles [17], Ghostbanë [15]RIPAD :: Sir Humphrey Winterbottom 1.0 [20]- AP Meter : All your AP needs
- Greyskull : Customisable, colour-coded Damage Meter
- Auto Research Scrolls : Automatic management of crafting research scrolls
- ITTs Donation Bot : Donation tracker for Guilds
- ITTs Roster Bot : Roster management for Guilds
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Sacredx✭✭✭PC NA PvP Oceanic
The Kelly Gang [TKG]
Highest kill streak: https://i.imgur.com/V6jJhoy.png
KB sample: https://i.imgur.com/n7TFyZr.png
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RedRook✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Another thread devolves into forum PVP...
You know, we could try a little harder to keep this on topic, or we can continue in this vein and watch another campaign thread get closed by the mods.
It's surprising people even start these threads, they're incredibly predictable.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Another thread devolves into forum PVP...
You know, we could try a little harder to keep this on topic, or we can continue in this vein and watch another campaign thread get closed by the mods.
It's surprising people even start these threads, they're incredibly predictable.
I actually really appreciate this particular thread and those like it. They were really important when it came to writing and updating my history of PC/NA Vivec victories: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/423940/a-year-of-pc-na-vivec-victories-need-help-filling-in-the-blanks
But yeah, the forum battle of the guild v guild egos has played out on multiple threads just like this one.1 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People seemed surprised the side with the most population consistently wins a scoring match in a pvp game.
GW2 should of been a lesson on why you don’t have a scoring system in an RVR game.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
ESO and GW2 PvP videos4 -
IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »Name an organized EP raid with voice comm and dedicated builds that plays everyday, lol.
AD organized raids basically stole 2nd place from DC by PvD their scrolls and keeps during the final 18 hour of campaign, double lol.
I am pretty sure Japanese are in their own voice chats as they play. They do have dedicated roles and everything. And they have improved quite a bit that fighting them solo is not viable anymore if it goes over 3 people (at least on a DK). And their guilds coordinate attacks on keeps so they at least take a keep from AD. I am sure you also run on organized group with Xylena. TKG is the only AD guild that runs consistently and they are fully stretched out as already to deal with 2 fronts.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel5 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »WaltherCarraway wrote: »Name an organized EP raid with voice comm and dedicated builds that plays everyday, lol.
AD organized raids basically stole 2nd place from DC by PvD their scrolls and keeps during the final 18 hour of campaign, double lol.
1* I am pretty sure Japanese are in their own voice chats as they play. They do have dedicated roles and everything. And they have improved quite a bit that fighting them solo is not viable anymore if it goes over 3 people (at least on a DK). And their guilds coordinate attacks on keeps so they at least take a keep from AD. I am sure you also run on 2*organized group with Xylena. 3*TKG is the only AD guild that runs consistently and they are fully stretched out as already to deal with 2 fronts.
1* OK, maybe a valid point, but your 3rd sentence has just proven those Japanese groups are no more than pug zerg. Oh my the last sentence, should I remind you that bunch of EP standing next to each other don't necessarily mean they are in the same group or voice comm channel.
2* Yes, I'm running on an "organized group" such that the members don't have to follow the crown, build around group play or log onto voice comm.
3* , lol. I am almost convinced.
I give up.Edited by WaltherCarraway on August 19, 2018 4:50AMBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.3 -
IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »IZZEFlameLash wrote: »WaltherCarraway wrote: »Name an organized EP raid with voice comm and dedicated builds that plays everyday, lol.
AD organized raids basically stole 2nd place from DC by PvD their scrolls and keeps during the final 18 hour of campaign, double lol.
1* I am pretty sure Japanese are in their own voice chats as they play. They do have dedicated roles and everything. And they have improved quite a bit that fighting them solo is not viable anymore if it goes over 3 people (at least on a DK). And their guilds coordinate attacks on keeps so they at least take a keep from AD. I am sure you also run on 2*organized group with Xylena. 3*TKG is the only AD guild that runs consistently and they are fully stretched out as already to deal with 2 fronts.
1* OK, maybe a valid point, but your 3rd sentence has just proven those Japanese groups are no more than pug zerg. Oh my the last sentence, should I remind you that bunch of EP standing next to each other don't necessarily mean they are in the same group or voice comm channel.
2* Yes, I'm running on an "organized group" such that the members don't have to follow the crown, build around group play or log onto voice comm.
3* , lol. I am almost convinced.
I give up.
Come over to AD and see how far stretched they are as they have to port constantly because 1 moment DC pushes down to Roe then when that is sorted, usually EP side is gone. This is when TKG literally is the only organized group running other than general pug bowtards flock to one direction one by one and get farmed. Have to do this unless Chalman is DC usually. Btw, DC Japanese does guilds faction stack just like EP faction stack is enough to overwhelm BRK and Sej consistently without an organized group on that side.
Pretty sure you belong in EP Hit Squad no? Didn't know they didn't do comms at all.Edited by IZZEFlameLash on August 19, 2018 4:57AMImperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel2 -
Elong✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Pops right now, in the mythical AD has no players timezone:
AD 3 bars, EP 3 bars, DC 2* bars.Edited by Elong on August 19, 2018 8:30AM1 -
Rin_Senya✭✭✭✭Population and map rn:
awwwww poor AD!Anairi ~ EP | NA | AR50 - Dracarys
Anaire ~ AD/EP | EU | AR50 - Banana Squad/Zerg Squad/AOE Rats7 -
Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭#weekdays{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
AD :: Imported Waffles [37]EP :: Wee ee ee ee ee [16]DC :: Ghostbane's DK [16], Impending Loadscreen [12]PC - NA
AD :: Ghostbane [50], yer ma [43], Sir Humphrey Winterbottom 2.0 [18], robotic baby legs [18]EP :: Wee Mad Arthur [50], avast ye buttcrackz [49], Sir Horace Foghorn [27], Brother Ballbag [24], Scatman John [16]DC :: W T B Waffles [36], Morale Boost [30], W T F Waffles [17], Ghostbanë [15]RIPAD :: Sir Humphrey Winterbottom 1.0 [20]- AP Meter : All your AP needs
- Greyskull : Customisable, colour-coded Damage Meter
- Auto Research Scrolls : Automatic management of crafting research scrolls
- ITTs Donation Bot : Donation tracker for Guilds
- ITTs Roster Bot : Roster management for Guilds
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IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭Population and map rn:
awwwww poor AD!
It is weekend only occurence really. Week day occurence is the other story. Especially for NA weekends are only times where many ADs stay up late. It is as if almost all AD has some sort of real life lives on the week day lives. If this was more consistent occurence, scoreboard would be with AD on the lead. Not EP by 2~3k or so consistently.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel4 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Population and map rn:
awwwww poor AD!
It is weekend only occurence really. Week day occurence is the other story. Especially for NA weekends are only times where many ADs stay up late. It is as if almost all AD has some sort of real life lives on the week day lives. If this was more consistent occurence, scoreboard would be with AD on the lead. Not EP by 2~3k or so consistently.
Nice job with blending a solid explanation of population levels with calling EP a bunch of no lifers, LOL.5 -
Minnesinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭This thread getting really much like the exposed vids. The new twist that AD has bigger population than EP for once and EP celebrating that in numbers. The map is great. This shows what happens if EP was behind the numbers all the time. Talk about skill no more.A is for Atronach.
B is for Bungler's Bane.
C is for Comberry.1 -
Rin_Senya✭✭✭✭
You missed the point. AD has bigger population every late night/morning (apart from literally 1.5-2 hours gap) with all these oceanic guilds zerging on AD side without any EP/DC organized guilds playing. The groups that were mentioned above as "opposition" on EP and DC side are small groups/pugs, most of the times even without coms apart from mb Wormhole and they don't play every day for sure.Minnesinger wrote: »AD has bigger population than EP for once
I don't think that PVDing the map with multiple guilds + pugs has something to do with "skill".Minnesinger wrote: »This shows what happens if EP was behind the numbers all the time. Talk about skill no more.
Also as you can see above some AD guilds don't even want to participate in GVG to actually have some kind of reality check. They have reasons why they are refusing to do so and prefer to hide behind the phrases "we do natural gvg fights on a daily basis" and “We fight naturally the way the game is meant to be played”. All zerging groups use those reasons because they lack the confidence to fight on their own merits.Anairi ~ EP | NA | AR50 - Dracarys
Anaire ~ AD/EP | EU | AR50 - Banana Squad/Zerg Squad/AOE Rats4 -
Minnesinger✭✭✭✭✭
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You missed the point. AD has bigger population every late night/morning (apart from literally 1.5-2 hours gap) with all these oceanic guilds zerging on AD side without any EP/DC organized guilds playing. The groups that were mentioned above as "opposition" on EP and DC side are small groups/pugs, most of the times even without coms apart from mb Wormhole and they don't play every day for sure.Minnesinger wrote: »AD has bigger population than EP for once
I don't think that PVDing the map with multiple guilds + pugs has something to do with "skill".Minnesinger wrote: »This shows what happens if EP was behind the numbers all the time. Talk about skill no more.
Also as you can see above some AD guilds don't even want to participate in GVG to actually have some kind of reality check. They have reasons why they are refusing to do so and prefer to hide behind the phrases "we do natural gvg fights on a daily basis" and “We fight naturally the way the game is meant to be played”. All zerging groups use those reasons because they lack the confidence to fight on their own merits.
I don´t buy AD has a bigger population. Since when has AD become more populated than EP? Maybe occassionally during some period of time, but then EP has more than enough population/ time to take the necessary points to win campaigns by a large margin.
Don´t start talking with me whatever you have against TKG. Not my guild so I can´t speak for them. I remember time when your own guild didn´t participate in GvG but with some special rules or better say not all.A is for Atronach.
B is for Bungler's Bane.
C is for Comberry.3 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »The results of this campaign prove that DC has the most skilled players. EP only wins because they are locked 24/7 and AD guilds get steamrolled by a couple DC soloers. There are pretty much no guilds on DC as we are all soloers, except every now and then when Khole decides they need to remind people they are so far above everyone else that if they played every night it would be EP saying they don't care about the score.
If EP wasn't locked all the time I doubt I would ever see them holding more than their scroll keeps. They think they are so good because they don't die instantly like AD but the reality is you could walk into a group of 10 of them, get some coffee, come back and you would still be at half health.
AD is so bad a cp 300 pug DC could make a new toon on AD and instantly become their best player. Both their Japanese and Brazilian guilds wipe to a couple of DC randoms. Their guilds are so bad I've seen lfgs pack them up.
If everytime I log on to a DC 2 bar, EP lock, and AD 3 bar and see we don't even have glade while both EP and AD are double teaming us I got 100 ap, I would be GO on all my toons.
Keep pretending you're the best EP but I could probably grab 20 lfgers from zone and push you to your gates during prime.
It's a shame the thread degraded and this brilliant post did not get the recognition it deserved. Though I gave it an awesome
Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.7 -
Rin_Senya✭✭✭✭
Again you are missing the point. Please quote where anyone said that "AD has bigger population" in general. We are discussing specific time zone. Where AD actually does have bigger population both pug zergs and guilds.Minnesinger wrote: »I don´t buy AD has a bigger population. Since when has AD become more populated than EP? Maybe occassionally during some period of time, but then EP has more than enough population/ time to take the necessary points to win campaigns by a large margin.
During this time zone they PVD the map just as much as everyone else and having no problem doing so but as soon as other alliances doing it against them suddenly it becomes unfair and "cheesy":taking scrolls or pvedooring inner keeps to run up the score is a bit cheesy.
Dracarys have never refused to participate in any GvG's starting from 8v8 and up. Information that we have given about us is pretty clear: our guild is a pvp raid guild that plays from medium to large scale group sizes. Anyone who want to come and fight us is always welcomed.Minnesinger wrote: »Don´t start talking with me whatever you have against TKG. Not my guild so I can´t speak for them. I remember time when your own guild didn´t participate in GvG but with some special rules or better say not all.
I don't have a problems with TKG, it's their members who started trash talking about us here. All we asked is to actually backup there words. Or they are always free to apologize should they not wish to.Anairi ~ EP | NA | AR50 - Dracarys
Anaire ~ AD/EP | EU | AR50 - Banana Squad/Zerg Squad/AOE Rats3 -
antihero727✭✭✭✭✭Vilestride wrote: »
If there is one thing this thread has revealed its this. Good work to the EP pugs providing a challenge to ADs guilds.
Yes. Good work EP providing a challenge to AD keeps.
Dom Dom, Ruin, Ni and Lolizerg are all on in this mythical AD free timezone Max.
We have a lot of members that wear their tabards all the time but aren’t in group. There are not a lot of us non stealth light attackers left on AD so most run with multiple guilds at different times. 11-2am central is DomDom prime time to clear a few things up.Veldrn-AD Magica Sorc
Bizarro Veldrn-AD Stam Sorc
Antiherro-AD Stam DK
Antihero-AD Magplar
Aww Crit-AD Magblade
AD Since PC beta
On A lag free vacation
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »The results of this campaign prove that DC has the most skilled players. EP only wins because they are locked 24/7 and AD guilds get steamrolled by a couple DC soloers. There are pretty much no guilds on DC as we are all soloers, except every now and then when Khole decides they need to remind people they are so far above everyone else that if they played every night it would be EP saying they don't care about the score.
If EP wasn't locked all the time I doubt I would ever see them holding more than their scroll keeps. They think they are so good because they don't die instantly like AD but the reality is you could walk into a group of 10 of them, get some coffee, come back and you would still be at half health.
AD is so bad a cp 300 pug DC could make a new toon on AD and instantly become their best player. Both their Japanese and Brazilian guilds wipe to a couple of DC randoms. Their guilds are so bad I've seen lfgs pack them up.
If everytime I log on to a DC 2 bar, EP lock, and AD 3 bar and see we don't even have glade while both EP and AD are double teaming us I got 100 ap, I would be GO on all my toons.
Keep pretending you're the best EP but I could probably grab 20 lfgers from zone and push you to your gates during prime.
Please, it’s a few small mans then the 40+ blue wave that rolls in every time. It’s a running AD joke at this point.Veldrn-AD Magica Sorc
Bizarro Veldrn-AD Stam Sorc
Antiherro-AD Stam DK
Antihero-AD Magplar
Aww Crit-AD Magblade
AD Since PC beta
On A lag free vacation
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adirondack✭✭✭✭✭This thread is amazing...
I come here for the salty popcorn. (grins)
Amazing thing is, many of the posts have quite valid viewpoints which can be compatible with each other. Yet when someone reads another person's statement as 'it isn't completely what I think, therefore it must be wholly wrong' we get these threads.
he said, she said... only not as well written.
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HaroniNDeorum✭✭✭I havent Eso pvp all week, thanks god that forums pvp exist.- Guildmaster of [ PANDA FORCE ] - Aldmeri PvP Guild NA/PC
- Twitch.tv/haronin
- Pvp focused player, want to improve everyday
- Vivec`s Former Emperor: HaroniN AR45
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Vilestride✭✭✭✭✭HaroniNDeorum wrote: »I havent Eso pvp all week, thanks god that forums pvp exist.
Agreed. Forum pvp is the best pvp, it even has the upside if being lag free.
Ohh and gvgs. Gvgs are the next best pvp, and notable the only pvp upon which sucess is actually measurable.
Its a shame the large scale gvg scene didnt take of nearly as well as the smallscale one has. In this regard i am envious of the small scale scene.Edited by Vilestride on August 19, 2018 11:22PM2
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