casparian wrote: »

With the Empower changes, ZOS should add Empower to the magicka Cliff Racer morph. This would give magwardens a significant PVE DPS boost without introducing anything uncounterable in PVP.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Another suggestion to fix the bear ult is to get rid of the re-summon animations and have the bear re-summon on its own with the passibe. In content where the bear keeps dying, like dungeons, trials, and PvP (so pretty much all content other than overland...), having your rotations interrupted by a 2-second long re-summon animation every 5-10 seconds is annoying.

Remee wrote: »

Stam wardens need some love, period.
Swarm not having a stam morph is seriously hindering to dps.
The bear being required for any build makes us a terrible choice.
3 Second count down on sub assault makes it not even a consideration for a dps build, yet you take away the one good thing it had? 10 second breach/fracture to a 5 second fracture? Useless.

I just don't understand how these changes could even be considered good.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Here's what I would really like to see happen to bring up all aspects of the warden class to where they need to be:

Green Balance

Healing Seed & Morphs: Make healing seed (initial ability) a 8 second heal over time, restoring health every 2 seconds and having the large burst heal at the end of the duration. Make budding seeds increase the duration to 16 seconds, and allow the user to trigger the ability again to instantly grant the burst heal. Remove the heal from corrupting pollen and make it deal disease damage over 8 seconds and apply major defile to enemies in the area.
This gives tanks a burst heal option via budding seeds, where the tank can lay down a 16 second effect and then use the burst heal when it's needed, while providing healing over time to melee dps. Stamina or magicka characters can use corrupting pollen as an aoe DPS supplemental ability (costs magicka and scales with spell damage/max magicka, but gains benefits from disease damage boosts via champion points, allowing it to be moderately useful for both roles).

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Living Vines - Leeching Vines Morph: Make this morph self-cast only (not on an ally), remove the minor lifesteal, and cause it to restore magicka and stamina whenever you take damage (in addition to the health restore). This would make it a more useful sustain tool for tank wardens, where often times the ability casts on someone who isnt actively taking damage instead of yourself. Also synergizes with nature's gift better for tanks.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Winter's Embrace

Arctic Wind & Morphs: Remove the healing effect from this skill entirely. Tank wardens can get their burst heal with the budding seeds change listed above. Instead, this ability now does the following:
Arctic Wind: Envelop yourself in a windstorm, Periodically pulling enemies within 15 meters to you over 10 seconds. This makes the ability a gathering skill for tanks - you pop it and it sucks enemies in, like an automatic chains for close range enemies. Probably at a rate of 1 enemy every 1 or 2 seconds.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Polar Wind: Enemies pulled toward you by the wind are afflicted by minor vulnerability, increasing the damage they take by 8% for 10 seconds. This would be the primary tank morph, causing your group to deal additional damage, and giving wardens something on-par with engulfing flames as a unique debuff that cant really be obtained elsewhere (except through sets).
Arctic Blast: No longer pulls enemies towards you. Instead deals frost damage in an area around you every second for 10 seconds. This is the DPS morph, essentially functioning in a similar fashion to hurricane/boundless storm (but no ramp up).

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Crystallized Shield & Morphs: Remove this as a damage shield, and instead have these abilities create a wall of ice on the ground in front of you (just like NPCs use). While you are within 5 meters of the wall, it absorbs projectiles directed at you. This creates a stationary gameplay mechanic, making the shield less powerful in pvp situations. Revert the cost changes.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Frozen Gate & Morphs Get rid of this ground-placed pull idea. As useful as it can be at times, it just pales in comparison to DK chains or the new silver leash for pulling purposes. I would propose a new ability in it's place:
Frozen Shard: Throw a javelin of ice to impale an enemy, knocking the target down and dealing frost damage.
Morph 1: Frozen Grip: Yanks impaled enemies back to your location and afflicts them with major maim for 4 seconds. This is the new version of the ability as a tank pull.
Morph 2: Coldsnap: Frozen shard now deals 50% additional damage to chilled enemies, and 100% additional damage to frozen enemies (Frozen, in this case, would count as any enemy rooted by gripping shards or wall of frost). The dps morph, obviously.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Animal Companions

Feral Guardian & Morphs: Aside from combat changes, we would really like to see other animal skins made available for this ability. It's clear that was the intention when it was designed and released with a gray war bear skin option. I'd like to see senche, direwolf, etc. as options.
That said, on to the changes:
Eternal Guardian is obviously bugged and not working as intended with the animation on revival, so I suggest removing that effect entirely. Instead, change eternal guardian to Winter Guardian: Activating the guardian's attack creates a blizzard, dealing frost damage every second for 10 seconds to enemies around it (in addition to the current execute-claw attack). This gives it an aoe option.
Wild Guardian also needs improvements, as it currently offers nothing over the base ability. Suggested change: When activating the attack of the guardian, it will charge at the target up to 28 meters away and snares them for 1 second.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Cutting Dive: As with the wild guardian, this ability gives no real benefit over the base ability. Cutting Dive should grant you empower for 5 seconds.

Skander wrote: »

Can someone screenshot how much dmg the Warden Rune does now?

Lynx7386 wrote: »

@Maura_Neysa

Wardens certainly do not have better sustain than DK, especially on the PTS where DK sustain has gotten even better with the combustion changes. As much as I like nature's gift and bull netch for getting my stamina back while blocking, it just doesnt match up to the huge chunk of health, magicka, and stamina returned whenever a DK uses an ultimate.
The biggest issue here is that a warden has to constantly manage and be extremely careful with his resources, or he risks running dry. A dragonknight can make some mistakes or spam a little more than needed, and never have to worry about resources because he can get back to 100% with the press of a button.

As for frozen gate vs chains: gate may have a couple of advantages, as you've noted, but in my experience it's relatively clunky, often unreliable, and definitely slower than chains for pulling distant enemies.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Here's what I would really like to see happen to bring up all aspects of the warden class to where they need to be:

Green Balance

Fungal Growth & Morphs: either increase the width of the conal effect, or make this a square effect like combat prayer or Refreshing path. Right now it is simply too difficult to aim, particularly on moving targets.

Healing Seed & Morphs: Make healing seed (initial ability) a 8 second heal over time, restoring health every 2 seconds and having the large burst heal at the end of the duration. Make budding seeds increase the duration to 16 seconds, and allow the user to trigger the ability again to instantly grant the burst heal. Remove the heal from corrupting pollen and make it deal disease damage over 8 seconds and apply major defile to enemies in the area.
This gives tanks a burst heal option via budding seeds, where the tank can lay down a 16 second effect and then use the burst heal when it's needed, while providing healing over time to melee dps. Stamina or magicka characters can use corrupting pollen as an aoe DPS supplemental ability (costs magicka and scales with spell damage/max magicka, but gains benefits from disease damage boosts via champion points, allowing it to be moderately useful for both roles).

Living Vines - Leeching Vines Morph: Make this morph self-cast only (not on an ally), remove the minor lifesteal, and cause it to restore magicka and stamina whenever you take damage (in addition to the health restore). This would make it a more useful sustain tool for tank wardens, where often times the ability casts on someone who isnt actively taking damage instead of yourself. Also synergizes with nature's gift better for tanks.

Lotus Flower & Morphs: Make this ability heal you -and- a nearby ally on light and heavy attacks, rather than you -or- an ally. This is a survival tool for the user as much as it is for your team.

Nature's Grasp & Morphs: Completely overhaul this ability. The pull self to an ally and wonky targeting are, currently, terrible and render this ability unused by all but a few niche pvp builds. I would suggest the following:
Nature's Grasp: Encases an enemy with choking vines, reducing movement speed by 40% and dealing X magic damage over 10 seconds.
Morph: Bursting Vines: When the effect ends or is purged, the vines explode for X magic damage to all nearby enemies.
Morph: Nature's Embrace: Also applies minor lifesteal for 10 seconds, causing allies to heal for 600 every 1 second when dealing damage to the target.



Winter's Embrace

Arctic Wind & Morphs: Remove the healing effect from this skill entirely. Tank wardens can get their burst heal with the budding seeds change listed above. Instead, this ability now does the following:
Arctic Wind: Envelop yourself in a windstorm, Periodically pulling enemies within 15 meters to you over 10 seconds. This makes the ability a gathering skill for tanks - you pop it and it sucks enemies in, like an automatic chains for close range enemies. Probably at a rate of 1 enemy every 1 or 2 seconds.
Polar Wind: Enemies pulled toward you by the wind are afflicted by minor vulnerability, increasing the damage they take by 8% for 10 seconds. This would be the primary tank morph, causing your group to deal additional damage, and giving wardens something on-par with engulfing flames as a unique debuff that cant really be obtained elsewhere (except through sets).
Arctic Blast: No longer pulls enemies towards you. Instead deals frost damage in an area around you every second for 10 seconds. This is the DPS morph, essentially functioning in a similar fashion to hurricane/boundless storm (but no ramp up).

Crystallized Shield & Morphs: Remove this as a damage shield, and instead have these abilities create a wall of ice on the ground in front of you (just like NPCs use). While you are within 5 meters of the wall, it absorbs projectiles directed at you. This creates a stationary gameplay mechanic, making the shield less powerful in pvp situations. Revert the cost changes.

Frozen Gate & Morphs Get rid of this ground-placed pull idea. As useful as it can be at times, it just pales in comparison to DK chains or the new silver leash for pulling purposes. I would propose a new ability in it's place:
Frozen Shard: Throw a javelin of ice to impale an enemy, knocking the target down and dealing frost damage.
Morph 1: Frozen Grip: Yanks impaled enemies back to your location and afflicts them with major maim for 4 seconds. This is the new version of the ability as a tank pull.
Morph 2: Coldsnap: Frozen shard now deals 50% additional damage to chilled enemies, and 100% additional damage to frozen enemies (Frozen, in this case, would count as any enemy rooted by gripping shards or wall of frost). The dps morph, obviously.

Piercing Cold (Passive): Rather than increasing all frost and magic damage by 6%, change this ability to give you a flat 6% damage bonus to any enemy that is chilled. This would allow you to get the bonus when using non-frost abilities, and also help out stamina wardens by boosting physical/poison/disease damage types against chilled enemies as well.



Animal Companions

Feral Guardian & Morphs: Aside from combat changes, we would really like to see other animal skins made available for this ability. It's clear that was the intention when it was designed and released with a gray war bear skin option. I'd like to see senche, direwolf, etc. as options.
That said, on to the changes:
Eternal Guardian is obviously bugged and not working as intended with the animation on revival, so I suggest removing that effect entirely. Instead, change eternal guardian to Winter Guardian: Activating the guardian's attack creates a blizzard, dealing frost damage every second for 10 seconds to enemies around it (in addition to the current execute-claw attack). This gives it an aoe option.
Wild Guardian also needs improvements, as it currently offers nothing over the base ability. Suggested change: When activating the attack of the guardian, it will charge at the target up to 28 meters away and snares them for 1 second.

Cutting Dive: As with the wild guardian, this ability gives no real benefit over the base ability. Cutting Dive should grant you empower for 5 seconds.

Swarm & Morphs: The base damage of swarm and both morphs should be increased by approximately 20%.
Fetcher Infection should be made into a stamina ability dealing disease damage. Rather than granting extra damage on every other cast, recasting fetcher infection on a target already afflicted by it should deal additional up-front damage. This would make it necessary to recast at the last second in order to get the most damage and efficiency out of the ability, adding some skill play.
Growing swarm should be changed to a ground placed AoE effect, spawning a cloud of swarming insects that deal damage to all enemies in the area. The cloud should grow in radius and damage every 3 seconds, with a total duration of 12 seconds, essentially acting like a placed hurricane effect.

Netch & Morphs: No combat/mechanic changes are needed, but I would really like to see the 'beam' effect removed entirely (simply make a pulsing blue or green aura around the netch to indicate it's functioning), and I would love to see skins for this ability to turn it into an owl or something instead of a floating jellyfish.

Falcon's Swiftness & Morphs: All morphs of this ability should have the 14 second duration (better yet, 20 seconds, as precedence is already set by grim focus / merciless resolve for nightblades).